Liberal County in NoVa Giving Basic Income to Low-Income Because….Other People Have More Money than they Do

[WTH_Progs?]

White democrats are white supremacists who think minorities are inherently inferior and in constant need of assistance.

They LITERALLY do too.

"Yeah but blacks are too pathetic to get a voter ID"

 

[Lisa558]

Fairfax County is not the federal government, so of course they aren't removing the other benefits. How can they?

The welfare state isn't going away. Once it's here, it's here. May as well find a way to make it less costly if possible. If UBI does that then good. If it doesn't, then it doesn't.

Now THAT’s the lib attitude: if giving people more welfare costs more, then it does. Because news flash: the libs will NEVER vote to remove or lower food stamps, or Medicaid, or subsidized housing, or free lunches, and free breakfasts, and the massive government child support checks. The “basic income” will just be more of other people’s money, given to those who didn’t earn it.

The libs won’t stop until people with a GED and no job training are living as comfortably as a college grad with a degree in accounting (or whatever) who has to pay for things with his earnings.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Speaking for a leftist, the best way to motivate people is give people stuff for free. This is really going to work out well, for China.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Now THAT’s the lib attitude: if giving people more welfare costs more, then it does. Because news flash: the libs will NEVER vote to remove or lower food stamps, or Medicaid, or subsidized housing, or free lunches, and free breakfasts, and the massive government child support checks. The “basic income” will just be more of other people’s money, given to those who didn’t earn it.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that "the libs" will never vote to remove or lower food stamps, etc. Conservatives won't do it either. They've had plenty of opportunities over the last 50 years.

The libs won’t stop until people with a GED and no job training are living as comfortably as a college grad with a degree in accounting (or whatever) who has to pay for things with his earnings.

Nobody has ever suggested that.

 

[Concerned American]

UBI or Universal Basic Income is something that a lot of people have pondered over for a long time. Some, like Andrew Yang, have speculated that it could save the country money in the long term as a replacement to food stamps, public housing, Medicaid, etc.

I'm open to seeing whether or not it can work. Nothing wrong with experimentation.

I thought that was what welfare was. Now you are advocating for giving these parasites UBI in addition to welfare, food stamps (SNAP), free medical care, free lunch, $300 per child and subsidized public housing--WHY WOULD ANYONE WORK? A better question is how long are you going to have taxpayers to pay the bills?

 

[g5000]

Good grief. Low-income people didn’t have to to pay rent for a year, are now getting a $300 per child per month government support check, Medicaid for the whole family, free school lunches, and now…..a “basic additional handout.”

Fairfax County seeks to break cycle of poverty with basic income pilot | FFXnow

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This is not the first time a UBI experiment has been run in the US. Stockton, California started on in 2018, and the results have been positive.

A high-profile universal basic income experiment in Stockton, Calif., which gave randomly selected residents $500 per month for two years with no strings attached, measurably improved participants' job prospects, financial stability and overall well-being, according to a newly released study of the program's first year.




You can read all about UBI experiments around the world here: Everywhere basic income has been tried, in one map


Contrary to your preconceived biases, these experiments do not turn the recipients into fat, lazy, good-for-nothings. It has had positive outcomes.

 

[g5000]

Why should I keep an open mind?

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. This principle is contempt prior to examination. - Herbert Spencer

 

[d0gbreath]

 

[g5000]

Nobel laureate Milton Friedman, the well known conservative/libertarian economist from the Chicago school of economics, was in favor of a universal basic income, which he called a "negative income tax".

Some of you younger people may not have heard of Milton Friedman, but perhaps you have heard of the man who now sits in his chair at the University of Chicago, Thomas Sowell.

You can see him discuss the subject here with William F. Buckley and address the preconceived notion it would create "a larger class of indolent and unemployed".

 

[g5000]

Founding Father Thomas Paine was a big proponent of a universal basic income.

 

[Dragonlady]

Good grief. Low-income people didn’t have to to pay rent for a year, are now getting a $300 per child per month government support check, Medicaid for the whole family, free school lunches, and now…..a “basic additional handout.”

Fairfax County seeks to break cycle of poverty with basic income pilot | FFXnow

www.ffxnow.com

Perhaps if their employers were required to pay them more than $7.50 per hour, these people wouldn't require government assistance. $7.50 per hour is $255 per week after 15% withholding. That's $1000 per month. for a family of 4?????? Even adding in the $600 in child tax benefits. Rent, Food, utilities, clothing, transportation, school supplies.

You either force employers to pay higher wages or you supplement those wages. Those are your choices. To this point, you refuse to require employers to pay higher wages.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Now THAT’s the lib attitude: if giving people more welfare costs more, then it does. Because news flash: the libs will NEVER vote to remove or lower food stamps, or Medicaid, or subsidized housing, or free lunches, and free breakfasts, and the massive government child support checks. The “basic income” will just be more of other people’s money, given to those who didn’t earn it.

The libs won’t stop until people with a GED and no job training are living as comfortably as a college grad with a degree in accounting (or whatever) who has to pay for things with his earnings.

Where you went wrong here is in the end nobody will get to live as someone with a degree in anything useful. The end result as always happens in socialist/communist nations is everyone gets to live as the homeless currently do.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I thought that was what welfare was. Now you are advocating for giving these parasites UBI in addition to welfare, food stamps (SNAP), free medical care, free lunch, $300 per child and subsidized public housing--WHY WOULD ANYONE WORK? A better question is how long are you going to have taxpayers to pay the bills?

At some point they’ll run out of other people’s money.

 

[initforme]

Low wage jobs are not necessary and do not need to be done.

 

[Concerned American]

Low wage jobs are not necessary and do not need to be done.

Remember that the next time you want a big mac or access to your bank account.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Perhaps if their employers were required to pay them more than $7.50 per hour, these people wouldn't require government assistance. $7.50 per hour is $255 per week after 15% withholding. That's $1000 per month. for a family of 4?????? Even adding in the $600 in child tax benefits. Rent, Food, utilities, clothing, transportation, school supplies.

You either force employers to pay higher wages or you supplement those wages. Those are your choices. To this point, you refuse to require employers to pay higher wages.

This is the either or failure of leftists in a nutshell. You’re the one paying either way. In your zeal to pay people more than they are worth through higher wages or welfare in the end you get to pay for it. Whether that be higher taxes or higher prices paid for goods and services.

 

[initforme]

I will. I'm not Stupid or IDIOTIC enough to eat a big Mac. I keep track of my bank account. You LOSE.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Low wage jobs are not necessary and do not need to be done.

Are low wage earners not necessary either? You just eliminated their one shot at becoming higher wage earners.

 

[initforme]

4.5 million people quit their jobs last year. It's such a wonderful thing. It's simply some of the very best news ever.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I will. I'm not Stupid or IDIOTIC enough to eat a big Mac. I keep track of my bank account. You LOSE.

We will just increase your taxes then. See there, in a socialist system we all get to participate.