Let's have a conversation

[Sherlock Holmes]

There’s a saying:

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Yes, Noam Chomsky often echoed that.

 

[jc456]

If this doesn't convince you that he's wearing the backpack and that the gun is wrapped in the dark towel? It does convince me and I can't improve it any further.

curiously I can see the backpack when he spins around on the ground. don't know about a rifle.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Yes, Noam Chomsky often echoed that.

The anti semites usually bring up Chomsky.

 

[jc456]

There’s no discussion because you refuse to discuss why we can’t have a distinction between biological sex and sociological gender.

there's no such thing. it's called mental illness

 

[Marener]

No demand, but what is there to discuss about feminism if your belief is that men can be women and women and be men? Again, such a belief literally eviscerates Title 9 that feminists fought decades to have passed?

Given you and Kirk refuse to discuss it, then it very much is a demand. Kirk even goes so far as to rephrase her answer to fit his framing and acts as though it’s what she said, it’s a demand.

Why can’t you discuss the difference between sociological gender and biological sex?

Why couldn’t Kirk?

You both seem to just pretend as though she didn’t explain it and defend it. It’s not a discussion unless you’re actually listening to what the other person says.

It’s exactly how I described it. Performative. He just wanted to get her to say the thing she wanted her to say in the way he said it.

It goes on like that. He just ignores what he doesn’t want to respond to and then jumps around. It’s similar to the discussions I’ve had here with people on the right wing. They’re not real discussions, for the most part. Just performance.

 

[ChristisKing]

there's no such thing. it's called mental illness

Yet the left wants these individuals to have guns and be in the military.

 

[Chuz Life]

Again, just about all prominent Democrats and large majorities of lefties have condemned the murder.

Do you have any explanation for why the majority of the leftists here on USMB can't do the same?

 

[MarcATL]

Why did a young white male raised in a rightwing Christian gun-culture in deep red state shoot him OP?

Problem w/the culture or what?

 

[buckeye]

dimocraps are scum, people. ALL of them. Not just the names you know -- ALL of them

Mike Nefong was a giant asshole and I forgot about him until you just reminded me. It was a travesty of justice that he didn't have to live in prison for a very long time. He should have. Instead he was permanently disbarred but I agree, prison time was a much better idea.

 

[AntonToo]

Anybody who's a true Republican never incites violence. I'm not referring to RINOS.

That is a really crazy comment considering the rightwing violence we've had.

It wasn't "RINOS" beating up cops on January 6th.

It wasn't a "RINO" evangelical that shot up two Minessota Democrats and had a kill list for 45 more Democrats and also abortion providers.

It wasn't a "RINO" that shot up a black church.

The fact that you switched from right to "Republicans" gives away your dishonesty.

 

[ChristisKing]

Do you have any explanation for why the majority of the leftists here on USMB can't do the same?

Simple, that would mean that they would have to accept that their party would be held accountable for it.

 

[buckeye]

curiously I can see the backpack when he spins around on the ground. don't know about a rifle.

Which begs the question, how do you leave a rifle in the bushes without bringing it down from the roof?

Some rather strange things about this murder. Hoping Patel is up for the challenge.

 

[Chuz Life]

curiously I can see the backpack when he spins around on the ground. don't know about a rifle.

It is much easier for me to spot the rifle when I take it to full screen

 

[jc456]

Why did a young white male raised in a rightwing Christian gun-culture in deep red state shoot him OP?

Problem w/the culture or what?

it's called radicalization. ever hear of it?

Shit dude, my own daughter is staunch demofk. I can't even discuss politics with her.

 

[jc456]

No demand, but what is there to discuss about feminism if your belief is that men can be women and women and be men? Again, such a belief literally eviscerates Title 9 that feminists fought decades to have passed?

it is their objective to hurt women.

 

[ChristisKing]

it's called radicalization. ever hear of it?

Shit dude, my own daughter is staunch demofk. I can't even discuss politics with her.

Did she attend public school and or college?

 

[jc456]

Did she attend public school and or college?

split time in public and catholic school. She had her issue with W, when he refused access to fetal tissue for something. My grandson has CP, and she saw fetal tissue as some form of fix.

 

[Rawley]

Given you and Kirk refuse to discuss it, then it very much is a demand. Kirk even goes so far as to rephrase her answer to fit his framing and acts as though it’s what she said, it’s a demand.

?? He didn't refuse to discuss it. He simply pointed out the foundational flaw in her argument that she cannot define what a woman is. He was very kind and did not shove it in her face, but if your definition of a woman includes men, you have no argument for feminism

Why can’t you discuss the difference between sociological gender and biological sex?

Why couldn’t Kirk?

You both seem to just pretend as though she didn’t explain it and defend it. It’s not a discussion unless you’re actually listening to what the other person says.

It’s exactly how I described it. Performative. He just wanted to get her to say the thing she wanted her to say in the way he said it.

It goes on like that. He just ignores what he doesn’t want to respond to and then jumps around. It’s similar to the discussions I’ve had here with people on the right wing. They’re not real discussions, for the most part. Just performance.

He countered, very successfully, every single one of her prewritten "arguments" for feminism. You agree with her arguments and dismiss his counter arguments as "performative"

Is that really the best example of were he does "poorly? in a debate" LOL

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

No diff all I did was make a clean observation.

You said: "No one is forcing them but, a conversation with a kid is not all Kirk did to spread his message."

But you brought it up in spite of the fact that liberal pundits do the same thing. In addition to this, colleges invite all kinds of speakers on all sorts of topics and issues all the time and, just like at Kirk events, students are invited to ask questions, make observations or challenge the speaker on certain points.

Given all this, the left's criticism of Kirk and his methods ring hollow and hypocritical to me.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I never knew Kirk at all, and now I am supposed to be a professional mourner fer him? Why did I not know him?
I tend to stay away from people who always think they are right and espouse extreme political views.

I never asked you to mourn for him. I expected you to act like an adult human being about it.

That is all. You're free to feel however you want, but mocking someone for being senselessly murdered, celebrating it, or even trying to justify it is beyond the scope of what most people call decency.