Let's face it: America kind of sucks

[francoHFW]

Blame Reagan... dummy ..... try the clintons .... they sold out America and Americans to the highest bidder ... Democrats are and always will be the biggest threat to America and Americans... learn the facts you moron.

The Clintons did no such thing, what they did do was triangulate so they passed a lot of republican bills hoping that the Republicans would compromise on some other bills. They would never.

 

[francoHFW]

So because our healthcare system isn't the best, you believe that it's the CAUSE of all American health problems? That's a bit retarded.

Our health care costs about 17.5% of GDP, the highest by five percentage points. The whole healthcare system is so stupid- it's run for insurance companies and drug companies making huge profits. The Democrats try and fix it and the Republicans obstruct it because they are corporate swine just like Reagan.

 

[BackAgain]

Let’s face it: lil billie.zip absolutely sucks.

 

[initforme]

Name a country that has a harder working more dedicated workforce on earth. You can't. We are unrivaled. Our workers work harder, complain zero, and are truly amazing.

 

[Mac-7]

Republicans like to pretend that the US is the best country in the world in every way because they cannot stand the thought of other countries doing something better than us. However, the main flaws the US has are much of less of issues in other first world countries.

1) Our healthcare system is garbage with or without ObamaCare.

Republicans like to harp on ObamaCare and pretend that it is rhe reason why our system sucks, but when you ask them the simple of question of "well, was our system good before ObamaCare?", they will refuse to answer. Secretly they know that our healthcare system has always sucked but they will not admit that out loud. But hell, at least ACA improved it to some degree. Republicans secretly like the idea of their healthcare coverage not being denied because of pre-existing conditions, but its another thing they will not admit out loud. Obama came up with it so the knee jerk reaction is that it is terrible.

I also want to point out the myth that republicans have about other first world healthcare systems. They pretend that wait lists run rampant for basic care and that these people suffer. That's of course not true. Systems in Western Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea are all quite high functioning even if they are not perfect.

Here's all the ways comparable, first world national healthcare systems are superior to the US's:

A. Life expectancy is better
B. Premature death rates are lower.
C. Less suffering with long term chronic diseases
D. Healthcare quality and access is far better
E. Maternal morality rates are better.
G. Hospital rates are lower for chronic diseases.
H. Post-operative complications are lower in prevalence.
I. Medication and procedure errors are lower.

And oh yeah, this is thanks to socialized medicine rather than shitty for-profit healthcare very few people can afford.

Now you say that the US does have state of the art treatments in some examples, but this hardly matters if the large majority of the population does not have access to this ridiculously expensive care and the overall nation suffers in areas where it matters most.

How does the quality of the U.S. health system compare to other countries? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

Despite spending more money per capita on healthcare than any similarly large and wealthy nation, the United States has a lower life expectancy than peer nations and has seen worsening health outcomes since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic. This chart collection combines various measures of...

www.healthsystemtracker.org

2. Infrastructure systems are better in comparable nations.

A. The US ranks 13th in infrastructure quality in the world.
B. Only 2% of our GDP spending goes to infrastructure.
C. Airports in other countries are better.
D. High speed rail in the US is half of the speed of comparable countries.
E. Internet connection is much better in other countries.
F. Our roads are shitty in comparison to these other nations. Traffic jams are less severe in such nations.

That's far from "American exceptionalism." Hell, Biden gets credit for at least passing a law making improvements even if it was not enough.



3. Gun violence in the US is far greater than in other countries like Australia, the UK, and Canada.

A. Mass shootings are far more common in the US than other politically stable countries.
B. Gun murders account for 79% of all murders in the US. In Canada it is 37%, Australia 13%, and the UK is 4%
C. Gun deaths per capita are FAR higher than in other countries.

Gun Violence in the US Far Exceeds Levels in Other Rich Nations

Gun violence is a huge issue in many other countries—just none that the US would consider a peer.

www.bloomberg.com

4) Wealth inequality is one of the worst in the world.

In 2020, the top 20% of the population earned 52.2% of all U.S. income. The median household income fell significantly for the first time since 2011 to $67,521. That's 2.9% down from 2019's number. The richest of the rich, the top 5%, earned 23% of all income.

The Cause of Income Inequality in America

U.S. income inequality has worsened significantly in the past 30 years. What does income inequality look like in the United States and what are the causes?

www.thebalance.com

5) Poverty rates are lower in other counties.

Denmark, Finland, and Sweden are proof that poverty in the US doesn't have to be this high

In 2004, the US child poverty rate was about 12 percent. Denmark's was less than 2 percent.

www.vox.com

Conclusion: America kind of sucks. I know inevitably the response I am going to get to this thread will be somewhere along the lines of "if you don't like it here, leave!" Well see the truth of the matter is that I think America is great in some ways and I would rather stay here and fix what is wrong with it.

I wish we didnt have people like you

And there are so many like you on the left

But even so America is still the best place on earth

 

[Billy000]

So because our healthcare system isn't the best, you believe that it's the CAUSE of all American health problems? That's a bit retarded.

Lol what? Um no. That is not at all what I said. Like it is pretty clear that is not what I said.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Our health care costs about 17.5% of GDP, the highest by five percentage points. The whole healthcare system is so stupid- it's run for insurance companies and drug companies making huge profits. The Democrats try and fix it and the Republicans obstruct it because they are corporate swine just like Reagan.

Didn't Obama fuck up the healthcare costs, then the Democrats blocked Trump from sorting out Obama's shit mess?

 

[initforme]

Nobody from either party is interested in fixing healthcare. When corporations win average people must lose. It's simply a fact. We protect big corporations here and the results are not good.

 

[Jessica-stormlover]

The loserterians and hard core right wing in this country has handed nearly all the wealth to the rich. This is why it sucks.

Our middle class is dying
Our infrastructure gets very little funding compared to europe.
Our medical system is allowed to be for profit and to health with helping people or doing what is right.

All caused by the filthy republican party.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Nobody from either party is interested in fixing healthcare. When corporations win average people must lose. It's simply a fact. We protect big corporations here and the results are not good.

Probably no one wants to sort it out, but did someone make it worse?

 

[James California]

obviously it was Nixon that opened China to the rest of the world and there's really no difference between the policies of the Democrats and republican vis-a-vis China, except that trump and other racists and dupes blame Chinese Americans for COVID, which is why there is a big spike in violence against Asian Americans by right wingers, along with a spike against gays Muslims Jews blacks....

~ Nobody blames Chinese Americans for anything. There is no "spike in violence against Asian Americans" in the USA — or anyone else for that matter.
Your anti-American sentiments and distorted views on politics fit the Progressive WOKE Democrat Party agenda perfectly.
Congratulations !

 

[francoHFW]

~ Nobody blames Chinese Americans for anything. There is no "spike in violence against Asian Americans" in the USA — or anyone else for that matter.
Your anti-American sentiments and distorted views on politics fit the Progressive WOKE Democrat Party agenda perfectly.
Congratulations !

Name a country that has a harder working more dedicated workforce on earth. You can't. We are unrivaled. Our workers work harder, complain zero, and are truly amazing.

Perfect ignoramus chumps of the greedy idiot GOP mega rich liars you mean.... Worst inequality, upward mobility, homelessness, anywhere in the modern world by far ever. Change the damn channel

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

The Clintons did no such thing, what they did do was triangulate so they passed a lot of republican bills hoping that the Republicans would compromise on some other bills. They would never.

You lie like a democrat, Clinton Foundation = corruption...

The Clintons did no such thing, what they did do was triangulate so they passed a lot of republican bills hoping that the Republicans would compromise on some other bills. They would never.

They absolutely sold out America. You must be stupid , dishonest or a liar .

 

[James California]

You lie like a democrat, Clinton Foundation = corruption...
They absolutely sold out America. You must be stupid , dishonest or a liar .

" That depends on what the meaning of word ' corruption ' is ..."

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Conclusion: America kind of sucks. I know inevitably the response I am going to get to this thread will be somewhere along the lines of "if you don't like it here, leave!" Well see the truth of the matter is that I think America is great in some ways and I would rather stay here and fix what is wrong with it.

“The American Experiment” is not just a rhetorical device. There is an actual experiment in a government organization where we are the inherent test subjects, thereof. The experiment is in a state of over-run because the guardians of the experiment are out to lunch.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

because even with our problems it is better than where they came from.

as a nation I feel we can do better than "at least we are better than the shithole 3rd world counties close by"

Yes. We should have "discovered" the reliable government chartering system, by now.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

" That depends on what the meaning of word ' corruption ' is ..."

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Go'd ,the clintons or so corrupt...

 

[Blackrook]

The nice thing about America is if you don't like it, you're free to leave.

 

[James California]

The nice thing about America is if you don't like it, you're free to leave.

~ More people are doing just that. Most expats living in other countries are from 3 nations : the UK, Canada and the USA.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

America was a wonderful country. Then democrats destroyed it. They sucked the life out of the people. They destroyed the cities. There is no depravity or perversion they did not embrace. They tore down a monument to an American hero and raised a golden monument to a demon. Democrats have cursed us.