Let's face it: America kind of sucks

[alang1216]

Agree or no?

“Those at the top of the system—the billionaires, corporations, mass media, and both corporate parties—are never going to change the capitalist system that made them rich. They will continue to exploit and extract as much as they can until the people rise up & stop them.”

You should ask the Nordic countries, they appear to have peacefully changed.

 

[Billy000]

Denmark, Finland, and Sweden all have poverty rates above 12%

Poverty Rate by Country 2024

25 US States have lower poverty.

PS: Your link is outdated data. Sweden's poverty rate is 17% due to open borders. 46 states have lower poverty.

Lol your own source shows that the US poverty rate is higher than several other countries. You know this so you try to sneak in 25 US being lower and expect me not to notice. Sorry. It doesn’t work Iike. Comparing individual states to other nations does not make sense.

 

[Calypso Jones]

 

[Billy000]

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So his infrastructure law was not an accomplishment? How about his appointment of a record amount of judges?

 

[Calypso Jones]

Joe Biden Declares 'Democracy Is Not Perfect, It's Never Been Good' - Valiant News

Biden momentarily aligns with right-wing criticisms of democracy before seemingly correcting himself.

valiantnews.com

freudian slip. They have to tell you in one way or another what they really think, what their true intent and goals are. What an asswipe for a president....an illegitimate one.

 

[Calypso Jones]

So his infrastructure law was not an accomplishment? How about his appointment of a record amount of judges?

LOLLOOLLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[gipper]

It's possible there is a third party forming...rightwingers.

That’s no different from the Ds and Rs.

 

[alang1216]

And Biden urged, encourage with these exact words...
I would, in fact, make sure that there is—we immediately surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum.” - Candidate Biden in September of 2019.

And of course ALL those crossing the border were seeking asylum...right?

Somehow I doubt a 13 clip hosted by a GOP partisan accurately reflected what Biden meant.

 

[healthmyths]

Somehow I doubt a 13 clip hosted by a GOP partisan accurately reflected what Biden meant.

Doesn't MATTER what he MEANT! Illegal immigrants heard the President say "surge to the border"! That's it
the President of USA telling them Surge to the border. Simple as that!

 

[Leo123]

The GOP controlled all of the gov't in 2016 yet no money was budgeted. Where was Mexico when we needed them?


Trump was strong on border security but nada from Congress, GOP or Dem.


Did he say that or did someone say he said that. I await your link because I couldn't find one.

Congressional Democrats would not allow the money and even dissed Trump and made fun of the wall.

Biden Administration Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border​

Biden Administration Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border

Lawyers representing the families are aiming to finalize the settlement by the end of November.

www.forbes.com

I doesn't matter who said what as the press has used the same thing to allege things that Trump said.

 

[Indeependent]

Congressional Democrats would not allow the money and even dissed Trump and made fun of the wall.

Biden Administration Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border​

Biden Administration Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border

Lawyers representing the families are aiming to finalize the settlement by the end of November.

www.forbes.com

I doesn't matter who said what as the press has used the same thing to allege things that Trump said.

How the hell does alang1216 not know this!

 

[the other mike]

Do you think Americas death rates and such suck because Americans LOVE fast food, cigarettes and alcohol?

Screw all those.

Weed is the bomb, pal. Wake up

 

[Leo123]

How the hell does alang1216 not know this!

He's going to say it's hearsay but will deny that the media did the very same thing to Trump.

 

[Indeependent]

He's going to say it's hearsay but will deny that the media did the very same thing to Trump.

alang1216 is one of those LibTards who suffers from convenient amnesia.

 

[francoHFW]

Well you can certainly see you have been drinking the Kool-Aid!

Answers:
1) Diet. Americans are among the worst eaters on the planet. Britain is catching up. Consider $.67 of every dollar spent in America for healthcare is related to a poor diet.
2) Other countries you speak of have almost no military expenses. Their land mass is tiny compared to the U.S. and their taxation is much higher.
3) Most of that is inner city violence. The United States actually has a lower violent crime rate than other countries if you remove inner city violence.
4) It is what is counted as poverty. What is counted as poverty in America is not counted as poverty in other countries. This is 1st year, 1st day economics kid.

Try comparing us to other developed countries. We are a bad giveaway to the rich GOP joke the last 35 years. Only murdoch etc crap makes it possible, super duper....Well if it's minorities that's alright lol...They are spending what we have asked them to, especially with your hero Putin around...Your GOP support for Big Food crap and big money is also admired lol...

 

[francoHFW]

He's going to say it's hearsay but will deny that the media did the very same thing to Trump.

Media had this thing called actual evidence, unlike your endless bs...

 

[BrokeLoser]

Nah, Norway sounds so much better.

Yes, all white Norway is much better…why do you think that might be?

 

[Lurchadams]

Republicans like to pretend that the US is the best country in the world in every way because they cannot stand the thought of other countries doing something better than us. However, the main flaws the US has are much of less of issues in other first world countries.

1) Our healthcare system is garbage with or without ObamaCare.

Republicans like to harp on ObamaCare and pretend that it is rhe reason why our system sucks, but when you ask them the simple of question of "well, was our system good before ObamaCare?", they will refuse to answer. Secretly they know that our healthcare system has always sucked but they will not admit that out loud. But hell, at least ACA improved it to some degree. Republicans secretly like the idea of their healthcare coverage not being denied because of pre-existing conditions, but its another thing they will not admit out loud. Obama came up with it so the knee jerk reaction is that it is terrible.

I also want to point out the myth that republicans have about other first world healthcare systems. They pretend that wait lists run rampant for basic care and that these people suffer. That's of course not true. Systems in Western Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea are all quite high functioning even if they are not perfect.

Here's all the ways comparable, first world national healthcare systems are superior to the US's:

A. Life expectancy is better
B. Premature death rates are lower.
C. Less suffering with long term chronic diseases
D. Healthcare quality and access is far better
E. Maternal morality rates are better.
G. Hospital rates are lower for chronic diseases.
H. Post-operative complications are lower in prevalence.
I. Medication and procedure errors are lower.

And oh yeah, this is thanks to socialized medicine rather than shitty for-profit healthcare very few people can afford.

Now you say that the US does have state of the art treatments in some examples, but this hardly matters if the large majority of the population does not have access to this ridiculously expensive care and the overall nation suffers in areas where it matters most.

How does the quality of the U.S. health system compare to other countries? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

Despite spending more money per capita on healthcare than any similarly large and wealthy nation, the United States has a lower life expectancy than peer nations and has seen worsening health outcomes since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic. This chart collection combines various measures of...

www.healthsystemtracker.org

2. Infrastructure systems are better in comparable nations.

A. The US ranks 13th in infrastructure quality in the world.
B. Only 2% of our GDP spending goes to infrastructure.
C. Airports in other countries are better.
D. High speed rail in the US is half of the speed of comparable countries.
E. Internet connection is much better in other countries.
F. Our roads are shitty in comparison to these other nations. Traffic jams are less severe in such nations.

That's far from "American exceptionalism." Hell, Biden gets credit for at least passing a law making improvements even if it was not enough.



3. Gun violence in the US is far greater than in other countries like Australia, the UK, and Canada.

A. Mass shootings are far more common in the US than other politically stable countries.
B. Gun murders account for 79% of all murders in the US. In Canada it is 37%, Australia 13%, and the UK is 4%
C. Gun deaths per capita are FAR higher than in other countries.

Gun Violence in the US Far Exceeds Levels in Other Rich Nations

Gun violence is a huge issue in many other countries—just none that the US would consider a peer.

www.bloomberg.com

4) Wealth inequality is one of the worst in the world.

In 2020, the top 20% of the population earned 52.2% of all U.S. income. The median household income fell significantly for the first time since 2011 to $67,521. That's 2.9% down from 2019's number. The richest of the rich, the top 5%, earned 23% of all income.

The Cause of Income Inequality in America

U.S. income inequality has worsened significantly in the past 30 years. What does income inequality look like in the United States and what are the causes?

www.thebalance.com

5) Poverty rates are lower in other counties.

Denmark, Finland, and Sweden are proof that poverty in the US doesn't have to be this high

In 2004, the US child poverty rate was about 12 percent. Denmark's was less than 2 percent.

www.vox.com

Conclusion: America kind of sucks. I know inevitably the response I am going to get to this thread will be somewhere along the lines of "if you don't like it here, leave!" Well see the truth of the matter is that I think America is great in some ways and I would rather stay here and fix what is wrong with it.

America is the best country in the world, but like all 300 year-olds it had a few problems. We're working on it!

 

[francoHFW]

Children in Poverty - America......

Overweight, sitting on their ass playing video games and eating junk food.

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Poverty in poor countries.... maybe you can see a difference.


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Yes, all white Norway is much better…why do you think that might be?

Tons of N. sea oil and no racists...

 

[Leo123]

Media had this thing called actual evidence, unlike your endless bs...

Made up 'evidence' like the 'Russia' dossier.