Let us call the trump tantrum what it REALLY WAS....an attempted Coup!

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but is meaningless because TDS sufferers wouldn't admit to it even if given hard evidence because the purported fraud got them the result they wanted.
They call this a hasty generalization. You are not talking to a TDS sufferer you are talking to me. Nothing in my post even suggests that I'm not willing to say I'm wrong. In fact all the steps I've described are done to precisely find out if I'm wrong. You don't have to even take my word for it. Type in my name and the phrase "I stand corrected" you will find not one but probably dozens.
Even if a year from now, it was proven beyond a doubt, they would probably then justify it as needed to "save our democracy"
How do you know? Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. In my original response did you find any indication I'd justify it? Again a hasty generalization.
I am told to think that people who have said Trump is the worst thing that ever happened to us and must be removed would never ever cheat to remove him. So either they are lying about how bad he is, or they are lying about cheating.
Explain that to me. Are you claiming that you can't think Trump is the worst president in history and simply vote him out legitimately?
Either way, they are lying.
Who is lying? The way I see it, the only people who've been lying so far is Trump's legal team, since they aren't willing to produce the massive amount of evidence they claim to have.


So far I've been very polite to you Marty. Giving you the respect of taking your premise at face value. As far as I can tell, the only person who's doing that so far in this post. If you rather do the name-calling thing, deflect and otherwise try to derail what I say. You are welcome to do so. Just remember my last step. You would personally convince me that I'm right. Give me a piece of information I don't have or a new perspective.
I am giving you my opinion, and I am being an asshole to the rest of them because they deserve it. I have told several to challenge me in the CDZ but they won't because then they can't go emotional and just whine about stuff. Here in the streets sections I live by a simple mantra, hit back twice as hard, every fucking time.

If you read many of my posts on this, I am not claiming Fraud 100% happened, I am saying all the data I have leads me to question how Trump lost yet Republicans, many who ran as supporting Trump, did far far better. How many election indicators, such as the bellweather counties, that have been accurate for decades were so entirely wrong. That everything dems could think of to muddy the voting waters, long term mail in ballots, lesser checks on signatures and postmarks, post election day extensions, all seem to favor Biden votes only.

Yet Progressives will ignore any of this, because their guy won. They will now switch from "fuh fuh fuh, the resistance, to fuh fuh fuh, lets play nice now or else" and will not even see what hypocritical scum they are.
When you refuse to answer the premise of what I said because you claim it won't matter anyway because other people are TDS sufferers your being an asshole to me at that moment.

What does that even mean by the way, I don't believe it happened 100 percent? Either you believe the election was stolen from Trump or you don't.

As to all these alleged irregularities that happened, the only thing that mail in ballots did was making voting easier. If you think that just helps Biden you are saying it is better for Trump that there is less Democracy. If so you might want to consider that you like autocracy?

As to cheating on those ballots. Have you ever looked up what the process and security measures for those ballots entail (I have) I will link it later if you want? Lets just say the signature at the ballot box is the least of it.

Then we come at your last argument. I don't get how Trump loses while it's not being shared down ballot. First as it is now the house and the precidency will be Democratic it was Republican last time around so its not that good relatively speaking . Second do you accept that Trump genuinely rubs a lot of people the wrong way? Just as he elicits a strong sense of loyalty to you? If he rubs more people the wrong way than he garners support in an election he might lose an election. Trumps approval rating has been under water his entire tenure, voila he loses even if the voters don't necessarily spread their contempt down ballot.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
Everything that Trump has done around this election has been illegal. He tried manufacturing evidence of voter fraud and filed dozens of claims of fraud in the election which were dismissed by the courts.

When the lawsuits failed he tried to intimidate state officials into refusing to certify the elections. That’s highly illegal and he could be jailed for it after he leaves office.

Trump has done everything possible to subvert the constitution to his will and to destroy the country.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
As I said back in 2016; politics is a profession...best left to the professionals. The last 4 years have proven this to be true more than any words I could add. The last few months and the last few weeks in particular. What a terrible human being the blob is. He deserves all of the misery coming his way.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
I have a feeling that nobody is going to answer the last part if your question.
It's a stupid question. What do you expect the remedy would be under such circumstances? J'Biden resigns? Kamala is president. Kamala shoul resign too? Pelosi is president. Pelosi should resign too? Grassley, assuming he's still president pro tempore? Or a Democrat president pro tempore if Democrats win the Senate? How far down the line of succession do we go until you're happy? Or do we hold a new election between J'Biden and Impeached Trump? Or do we hold a new general election and primaries for anyone who wants to run? Or do we simply crown Impeached Trump, king?
I would expect the same remedy that the left would demand if trump had been proven to have cheated. Potus and vp would resign and rightful winner put in place.

This is no less than what the left would have screamed if cheating had been undoubtedly proven on behalf of trump.
There isn't any doubt that Rump tried to cheat. He was very, very open about his attempts but he's also very, very inept and was stopped on every open attempt. I wonder where else did he successfully cheat and get away with it. But he Still Lost which just shows just how inept he really is.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
As I said back in 2016; politics is a profession...best left to the professionals. The last 4 years have proven this to be true more than any words I could add. The last few months and the last few weeks in particular. What a terrible human being the blob is. He deserves all of the misery coming his way.
Trump did more good for this country than any President since Reagan, despite your irrational hatred of the man.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
As I said back in 2016; politics is a profession...best left to the professionals. The last 4 years have proven this to be true more than any words I could add. The last few months and the last few weeks in particular. What a terrible human being the blob is. He deserves all of the misery coming his way.
Trump did more good for this country than any President since Reagan, despite your irrational hatred of the man.
One term. Scoreboard.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
I have a feeling that nobody is going to answer the last part if your question.
It's a stupid question. What do you expect the remedy would be under such circumstances? J'Biden resigns? Kamala is president. Kamala shoul resign too? Pelosi is president. Pelosi should resign too? Grassley, assuming he's still president pro tempore? Or a Democrat president pro tempore if Democrats win the Senate? How far down the line of succession do we go until you're happy? Or do we hold a new election between J'Biden and Impeached Trump? Or do we hold a new general election and primaries for anyone who wants to run? Or do we simply crown Impeached Trump, king?
I would expect the same remedy that the left would demand if trump had been proven to have cheated. Potus and vp would resign and rightful winner put in place.

This is no less than what the left would have screamed if cheating had been undoubtedly proven on behalf of trump.
Again, if Biden and Harris both resign, Pelosi becomes president. That's why it was a stupid question.
You missed what I said. I said, in the event that it was proven that epection fraud had taken place, the remedy would be the same as what the left would have wanted if it had been proven that trump had elecrion fraud,, for the election to be given to the rightful winner, which in this case, would have been trump and pence.

If it had been proven that election fraud had taken place, then, once the numbers were corrected, it would change the electoral vote count to reflect the true totals. If trump were to have come up with 270, then he would be president.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
I have a feeling that nobody is going to answer the last part if your question.
It's a stupid question. What do you expect the remedy would be under such circumstances? J'Biden resigns? Kamala is president. Kamala shoul resign too? Pelosi is president. Pelosi should resign too? Grassley, assuming he's still president pro tempore? Or a Democrat president pro tempore if Democrats win the Senate? How far down the line of succession do we go until you're happy? Or do we hold a new election between J'Biden and Impeached Trump? Or do we hold a new general election and primaries for anyone who wants to run? Or do we simply crown Impeached Trump, king?
I would expect the same remedy that the left would demand if trump had been proven to have cheated. Potus and vp would resign and rightful winner put in place.

This is no less than what the left would have screamed if cheating had been undoubtedly proven on behalf of trump.
Again, if Biden and Harris both resign, Pelosi becomes president. That's why it was a stupid question.
You missed what I said. I said, in the event that it was proven that epection fraud had taken place, the remedy would be the same as what the left would have wanted if it had been proven that trump had elecrion fraud,, for the election to be given to the rightful winner, which in this case, would have been trump and pence.

If it had been proven that election fraud had taken place, then, once the numbers were corrected, it would change the electoral vote count to reflect the true totals. If trump were to have come up with 270, then he would be president.
He should have stopped about a week ago in his attempts. And, if nothing else, he should have stopped 2 or 3 days ago. He ran out of legal methods. But, no. He didn't stop. He shifted to illegal methods that the State and County Officials could no longer stomach. And what's sad, he's still got another one to do. His in person trip to try and coerce another batch of Republican State Officials to go against their state laws. And at OUR Taxpayers expense of about a million bucks. I know the RNC is no longer giving him money for this nonsense. When are the Taxpayers going to stop paying for his insanity.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
I have a feeling that nobody is going to answer the last part if your question.
It's a stupid question. What do you expect the remedy would be under such circumstances? J'Biden resigns? Kamala is president. Kamala shoul resign too? Pelosi is president. Pelosi should resign too? Grassley, assuming he's still president pro tempore? Or a Democrat president pro tempore if Democrats win the Senate? How far down the line of succession do we go until you're happy? Or do we hold a new election between J'Biden and Impeached Trump? Or do we hold a new general election and primaries for anyone who wants to run? Or do we simply crown Impeached Trump, king?
I would expect the same remedy that the left would demand if trump had been proven to have cheated. Potus and vp would resign and rightful winner put in place.

This is no less than what the left would have screamed if cheating had been undoubtedly proven on behalf of trump.
Again, if Biden and Harris both resign, Pelosi becomes president. That's why it was a stupid question.
You missed what I said. I said, in the event that it was proven that epection fraud had taken place, the remedy would be the same as what the left would have wanted if it had been proven that trump had elecrion fraud,, for the election to be given to the rightful winner, which in this case, would have been trump and pence.

If it had been proven that election fraud had taken place, then, once the numbers were corrected, it would change the electoral vote count to reflect the true totals. If trump were to have come up with 270, then he would be president.
Wrong, I missed nothing. In the event that enough fraud could be proven, a court could decide Trump is the winner, but that's not what you said. You said J'Biden and Harris should resign.

For the third time... if J'Biden and Harris resign, Nancy Pelosi becomes president.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
Everything that Trump has done around this election has been illegal. He tried manufacturing evidence of voter fraud and filed dozens of claims of fraud in the election which were dismissed by the courts.

When the lawsuits failed he tried to intimidate state officials into refusing to certify the elections. That’s highly illegal and he could be jailed for it after he leaves office.

Trump has done everything possible to subvert the constitution to his will and to destroy the country.
Everything that Trump has done around this election has been illegal.

I would ask you for a link proving this..............but we all know you are just a lying sack of shit who knows nothing about America.
 

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Dem dirty tricks probably cost him the election. and you would be OK with that because you got the result you wanted.

You just won't admit it.
Republicans at all levels of Government exceeded expectations and got elected.

Trump was not
His own antics are to blame
Or cheating in the Presidential Election in critical States.
A pity Impeached Trump couldn't prove that in court.
Yet.

I don't think there is the time to prove it within the election timeline. I say he should not concede, not attend the inauguration, snub all precedent, and fight on after.
It matters not if he neither concedes nor attends J'Biden's historic inauguration, that just goes to show how childish and unpresidential he is. Of course, no one will be surprised by that. I myself have already predicted he will behave like that.
Yeah, 4 years of being assaulted by the left in an unprecedented manner and now he is supposed to play nice.

Just like I am supposed to play nice.

Fuck that.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
He has had more than ample time to prove his case. The nations top CONSERVATIVE legal teams have all stepped away from this lie of fraud. Can not you see?.....trump has been lying through the entirely of this Regime. It all started when he lied about the size of his inauguration and his hands....and he has not stopped in four years.

You should have gotten a hint when he appointed dye bleeding Rudy to head his case. He was the last attorney in the country who was willing to peddle trump's fraud lie.

There will never be enough fraud proven to overturn this election. The incompetence and audacity of a Narcissistic Sociopath doomed his own re-election when he decided to LIE to the American People about a deadly virus. That is what took trump down. Did God send the Pandemic to save America from Authoritarianism? Think about it.....
Wow, now it "enough fraud to overturn" instead of no fraud.

What a goalpost moving little shit you are.
Don't be a horse's ars....there are always irregularities in the vote...and some fraud was found by committed by REPUBLICANS.

Yet the irregularities that mattered all happened in large Dem controlled areas, and all helped Biden get elected.

Yet the house went more to Republicans, yet many States went more to republicans, yet many republican areas in the States where the cities had issues went more to republicans.

Yet the Senate is a toss-up in a year where Dems had an easier chance of gains.

And all in a year where early and mail in voting made it easier to cheat.
Oh? What was different this year than others that made mail-in ballots easier to cheat?
More of them, more lax rules on acceptance.
"More" does not equate to "easier." "Lax rules," maybe.
More due to reducing the usual requirements.

To me election day should be 1.5 days. 36 hours going back from 10 PM the night of election day. You sign in, you show ID, you vote.
Fortunately, you have no say in how we run elections.
Nice non-response, bukaki bait.
You reveal more about yourself that I'm sure you intended.
LOL, the only thing you reveal is your overall hackery.
 

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Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.
Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?
Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"
When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.
Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?
the purpose of foreign aid is certainly not to get the foreign country to sling mud for you against your likely opponent. lol.
Wow, talk about being ignorant.
you want to make the case that foreign aid is for that purpose, fatso? i would not be surprised.
It's always been the case, it's just different for Trump because of "reasons"
The “reasons” in this case were Trump demanding personal favors in return for military aid.

Got him impeached
AND... it cost him the election against Biden, who he was trying to eliminate from the race with that extortion. That reveals Impeached Trump knew who his main rival was.
Dem dirty tricks probably cost him the election. and you would be OK with that because you got the result you wanted.

You just won't admit it.
Liar. I would not be ok with that.
Bullshit.

I can see them showing widespread fraud after a year on investigation, and people like you justifying it because "Trump was just that bad"

Until the next Republican runs.
I am not responsible for your delusions. :eusa_naughty:
It's called prognostications.
LOLOL

Sure, Miss Cleo. :lmao:

Good reference.

Still a cuck.
 

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Dem dirty tricks probably cost him the election. and you would be OK with that because you got the result you wanted.

You just won't admit it.
Republicans at all levels of Government exceeded expectations and got elected.

Trump was not
His own antics are to blame
Or cheating in the Presidential Election in critical States.
A pity Impeached Trump couldn't prove that in court.
As a Jewish man are you ready to see Israel attacked?
Of course not. Fortunately, they've done a rather remarkable job defending themselves.
Good luck with that when a Biden administration takes the easy route to give the hard left a bone and rolls back all the progress Trump made with the gulf states by sucking up to the Palestinians again.

Fucking over Israel is an easy way to placate "the squad".

Hopefully Trump uses the next 2 months to get the Saudis on board and make it harder for Biden to change course.
Oh? Which countries attacked Israel during Obama/Biden?
Who said anything about attacked? All Obama did was placate the jew haters in his party by letting the status quo continue.

Trump tried to and was successful in getting some of the gulf States to normalize relations with Israel, something that if a Dem did it would be lauded from the hills.

Hopefully he can get the Saudis on board before Biden encourages a more "fuck Israel" approach that that the squad wants.
 

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Hopefully Trump uses the next 2 months to get the Saudis on board and make it harder for Biden to change course.
Exactly. This election was always about utterly irresponsible leadership, worshipping bloody authoritarians and money. Trump’s imagining himself a popular monarch, his deep attraction to authoritarianism, to money and power as the only important things in life — these were perfectly reflected in his warm relationship with the butchering Crown Prince MbS of Saudi Arabia. You are clearly another, if insignificant, sycophant of dictators.
Good god you are a fucking moron.

The only authoritarians you should worry about come from the left.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
I have a feeling that nobody is going to answer the last part if your question.
It's a stupid question. What do you expect the remedy would be under such circumstances? J'Biden resigns? Kamala is president. Kamala shoul resign too? Pelosi is president. Pelosi should resign too? Grassley, assuming he's still president pro tempore? Or a Democrat president pro tempore if Democrats win the Senate? How far down the line of succession do we go until you're happy? Or do we hold a new election between J'Biden and Impeached Trump? Or do we hold a new general election and primaries for anyone who wants to run? Or do we simply crown Impeached Trump, king?
Again, you wouldn't care because you got the result you wanted.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
Everything that Trump has done around this election has been illegal. He tried manufacturing evidence of voter fraud and filed dozens of claims of fraud in the election which were dismissed by the courts.

When the lawsuits failed he tried to intimidate state officials into refusing to certify the elections. That’s highly illegal and he could be jailed for it after he leaves office.

Trump has done everything possible to subvert the constitution to his will and to destroy the country.
Nothing he has done is even close to illegal, you have no basis, as usual, for your accusation.

Go suck off Trudeau, if he can still get it up.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
I have a feeling that nobody is going to answer the last part if your question.
It's a stupid question. What do you expect the remedy would be under such circumstances? J'Biden resigns? Kamala is president. Kamala shoul resign too? Pelosi is president. Pelosi should resign too? Grassley, assuming he's still president pro tempore? Or a Democrat president pro tempore if Democrats win the Senate? How far down the line of succession do we go until you're happy? Or do we hold a new election between J'Biden and Impeached Trump? Or do we hold a new general election and primaries for anyone who wants to run? Or do we simply crown Impeached Trump, king?
Again, you wouldn't care because you got the result you wanted.
The ONLY results I wanted was for the Orange Deity to be sent packing. And it won't happen soon enough.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
I have a feeling that nobody is going to answer the last part if your question.
It's a stupid question. What do you expect the remedy would be under such circumstances? J'Biden resigns? Kamala is president. Kamala shoul resign too? Pelosi is president. Pelosi should resign too? Grassley, assuming he's still president pro tempore? Or a Democrat president pro tempore if Democrats win the Senate? How far down the line of succession do we go until you're happy? Or do we hold a new election between J'Biden and Impeached Trump? Or do we hold a new general election and primaries for anyone who wants to run? Or do we simply crown Impeached Trump, king?
Again, you wouldn't care because you got the result you wanted.
The ONLY results I wanted was for the Orange Deity to be sent packing. And it won't happen soon enough.
Short sighted fucking fool.
 

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