Let us call the trump tantrum what it REALLY WAS....an attempted Coup!

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
He has had more than ample time to prove his case. The nations top CONSERVATIVE legal teams have all stepped away from this lie of fraud. Can not you see?.....trump has been lying through the entirely of this Regime. It all started when he lied about the size of his inauguration and his hands....and he has not stopped in four years.

You should have gotten a hint when he appointed dye bleeding Rudy to head his case. He was the last attorney in the country who was willing to peddle trump's fraud lie.

There will never be enough fraud proven to overturn this election. The incompetence and audacity of a Narcissistic Sociopath doomed his own re-election when he decided to LIE to the American People about a deadly virus. That is what took trump down. Did God send the Pandemic to save America from Authoritarianism? Think about it.....
Wow, now it "enough fraud to overturn" instead of no fraud.

What a goalpost moving little shit you are.
Don't be a horse's ars....there are always irregularities in the vote...and some fraud was found by committed by REPUBLICANS.

Yet the irregularities that mattered all happened in large Dem controlled areas, and all helped Biden get elected.

Yet the house went more to Republicans, yet many States went more to republicans, yet many republican areas in the States where the cities had issues went more to republicans.

Yet the Senate is a toss-up in a year where Dems had an easier chance of gains.

And all in a year where early and mail in voting made it easier to cheat.
Oh? What was different this year than others that made mail-in ballots easier to cheat?
And harder to keep many from voting with dirty tactics so I guess it evened out.
The gop successes in House races, and even more so in defying State House elections that the Dems expected to win, definitively shows there was no massive cheating with mail in ballots. Trump lost decisively on his response, or non-response, to the virus and possibly his personality. But on other issues, the GOP sort of won. That's the message for both parties going forward. jmo
I think it shows the real reason, or one of the reasons, Trump lost is because of the Republicans who refused to vote for him but voted all GOP down ballot.
Or massive cheating where Dems could do it and hide it.
Nah, old school Republicans that couldn't stand the Trumpybear voted for Biden but couldn't vote Dem down ballot.
And they will get what they deserve good and hard from a far left Biden Administration.
 

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but is meaningless because TDS sufferers wouldn't admit to it even if given hard evidence because the purported fraud got them the result they wanted.
They call this a hasty generalization. You are not talking to a TDS sufferer you are talking to me. Nothing in my post even suggests that I'm not willing to say I'm wrong. In fact all the steps I've described are done to precisely find out if I'm wrong. You don't have to even take my word for it. Type in my name and the phrase "I stand corrected" you will find not one but probably dozens.
Even if a year from now, it was proven beyond a doubt, they would probably then justify it as needed to "save our democracy"
How do you know? Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. In my original response did you find any indication I'd justify it? Again a hasty generalization.
I am told to think that people who have said Trump is the worst thing that ever happened to us and must be removed would never ever cheat to remove him. So either they are lying about how bad he is, or they are lying about cheating.
Explain that to me. Are you claiming that you can't think Trump is the worst president in history and simply vote him out legitimately?
Either way, they are lying.
Who is lying? The way I see it, the only people who've been lying so far is Trump's legal team, since they aren't willing to produce the massive amount of evidence they claim to have.


So far I've been very polite to you Marty. Giving you the respect of taking your premise at face value. As far as I can tell, the only person who's doing that so far in this post. If you rather do the name-calling thing, deflect and otherwise try to derail what I say. You are welcome to do so. Just remember my last step. You would personally convince me that I'm right. Give me a piece of information I don't have or a new perspective.
I am giving you my opinion, and I am being an asshole to the rest of them because they deserve it. I have told several to challenge me in the CDZ but they won't because then they can't go emotional and just whine about stuff. Here in the streets sections I live by a simple mantra, hit back twice as hard, every fucking time.

If you read many of my posts on this, I am not claiming Fraud 100% happened, I am saying all the data I have leads me to question how Trump lost yet Republicans, many who ran as supporting Trump, did far far better. How many election indicators, such as the bellweather counties, that have been accurate for decades were so entirely wrong. That everything dems could think of to muddy the voting waters, long term mail in ballots, lesser checks on signatures and postmarks, post election day extensions, all seem to favor Biden votes only.

Yet Progressives will ignore any of this, because their guy won. They will now switch from "fuh fuh fuh, the resistance, to fuh fuh fuh, lets play nice now or else" and will not even see what hypocritical scum they are.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
Wait..wait..was this a "soft" coup?, a long running "coup"?...a chicken coup?
Honestly, don't go away mad...just go away! :)
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
He has had more than ample time to prove his case. The nations top CONSERVATIVE legal teams have all stepped away from this lie of fraud. Can not you see?.....trump has been lying through the entirely of this Regime. It all started when he lied about the size of his inauguration and his hands....and he has not stopped in four years.

You should have gotten a hint when he appointed dye bleeding Rudy to head his case. He was the last attorney in the country who was willing to peddle trump's fraud lie.

There will never be enough fraud proven to overturn this election. The incompetence and audacity of a Narcissistic Sociopath doomed his own re-election when he decided to LIE to the American People about a deadly virus. That is what took trump down. Did God send the Pandemic to save America from Authoritarianism? Think about it.....
Wow, now it "enough fraud to overturn" instead of no fraud.

What a goalpost moving little shit you are.
Don't be a horse's ars....there are always irregularities in the vote...and some fraud was found by committed by REPUBLICANS.

Yet the irregularities that mattered all happened in large Dem controlled areas, and all helped Biden get elected.

Yet the house went more to Republicans, yet many States went more to republicans, yet many republican areas in the States where the cities had issues went more to republicans.

Yet the Senate is a toss-up in a year where Dems had an easier chance of gains.

And all in a year where early and mail in voting made it easier to cheat.
Oh? What was different this year than others that made mail-in ballots easier to cheat?
More of them, more lax rules on acceptance.
"More" does not equate to "easier." "Lax rules," maybe.
More due to reducing the usual requirements.

To me election day should be 1.5 days. 36 hours going back from 10 PM the night of election day. You sign in, you show ID, you vote.
 

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74 Million didn't. That's a hung jury, not a conviction.
Juries need to be unanimous

Elections don't
That's below Marty's limited IQ.

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I showed your reference to be flawed, and you won't admit it.
Uh, no, there was no flaw as my reference was not about a criminal conviction but a political conviction. Just like the U.S. Senate can vote to convict an impeached president which does not end with a hung jury; the U.S. electorate voted to convict where the Republican-led Senate wouldn't.
You said the election "convicted him". Clearly not the case.
 

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Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.
Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?
Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"
When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.
Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?
the purpose of foreign aid is certainly not to get the foreign country to sling mud for you against your likely opponent. lol.
Wow, talk about being ignorant.
you want to make the case that foreign aid is for that purpose, fatso? i would not be surprised.
It's always been the case, it's just different for Trump because of "reasons"
The “reasons” in this case were Trump demanding personal favors in return for military aid.

Got him impeached
AND... it cost him the election against Biden, who he was trying to eliminate from the race with that extortion. That reveals Impeached Trump knew who his main rival was.
Dem dirty tricks probably cost him the election. and you would be OK with that because you got the result you wanted.

You just won't admit it.
Liar. I would not be ok with that.
Bullshit.

I can see them showing widespread fraud after a year on investigation, and people like you justifying it because "Trump was just that bad"

Until the next Republican runs.
 

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but is meaningless because TDS sufferers wouldn't admit to it even if given hard evidence because the purported fraud got them the result they wanted.
They call this a hasty generalization. You are not talking to a TDS sufferer you are talking to me. Nothing in my post even suggests that I'm not willing to say I'm wrong. In fact all the steps I've described are done to precisely find out if I'm wrong. You don't have to even take my word for it. Type in my name and the phrase "I stand corrected" you will find not one but probably dozens.
Even if a year from now, it was proven beyond a doubt, they would probably then justify it as needed to "save our democracy"
How do you know? Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. In my original response did you find any indication I'd justify it? Again a hasty generalization.
I am told to think that people who have said Trump is the worst thing that ever happened to us and must be removed would never ever cheat to remove him. So either they are lying about how bad he is, or they are lying about cheating.
Explain that to me. Are you claiming that you can't think Trump is the worst president in history and simply vote him out legitimately?
Either way, they are lying.
Who is lying? The way I see it, the only people who've been lying so far is Trump's legal team, since they aren't willing to produce the massive amount of evidence they claim to have.


So far I've been very polite to you Marty. Giving you the respect of taking your premise at face value. As far as I can tell, the only person who's doing that so far in this post. If you rather do the name-calling thing, deflect and otherwise try to derail what I say. You are welcome to do so. Just remember my last step. You would personally convince me that I'm right. Give me a piece of information I don't have or a new perspective.
Marty "Sour Grapes" Began is just a sore loser. He's just muddling through phase III of depression.
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Fuck off, cum-guzzler.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
It was more of a dipshit rodeo......but yeah. It was an attempt to overthrow an election and take power.

Thankfully, the attempt was marked with typical Trump incompetence.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
He has had more than ample time to prove his case. The nations top CONSERVATIVE legal teams have all stepped away from this lie of fraud. Can not you see?.....trump has been lying through the entirely of this Regime. It all started when he lied about the size of his inauguration and his hands....and he has not stopped in four years.

You should have gotten a hint when he appointed dye bleeding Rudy to head his case. He was the last attorney in the country who was willing to peddle trump's fraud lie.

There will never be enough fraud proven to overturn this election. The incompetence and audacity of a Narcissistic Sociopath doomed his own re-election when he decided to LIE to the American People about a deadly virus. That is what took trump down. Did God send the Pandemic to save America from Authoritarianism? Think about it.....
Wow, now it "enough fraud to overturn" instead of no fraud.

What a goalpost moving little shit you are.
Don't be a horse's ars....there are always irregularities in the vote...and some fraud was found by committed by REPUBLICANS.

Yet the irregularities that mattered all happened in large Dem controlled areas, and all helped Biden get elected.

Yet the house went more to Republicans, yet many States went more to republicans, yet many republican areas in the States where the cities had issues went more to republicans.

Yet the Senate is a toss-up in a year where Dems had an easier chance of gains.

And all in a year where early and mail in voting made it easier to cheat.
Oh? What was different this year than others that made mail-in ballots easier to cheat?
More of them, more lax rules on acceptance.
"More" does not equate to "easier." "Lax rules," maybe.
More due to reducing the usual requirements.

To me election day should be 1.5 days. 36 hours going back from 10 PM the night of election day. You sign in, you show ID, you vote.
Fortunately, you have no say in how we run elections.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
He has had more than ample time to prove his case. The nations top CONSERVATIVE legal teams have all stepped away from this lie of fraud. Can not you see?.....trump has been lying through the entirely of this Regime. It all started when he lied about the size of his inauguration and his hands....and he has not stopped in four years.

You should have gotten a hint when he appointed dye bleeding Rudy to head his case. He was the last attorney in the country who was willing to peddle trump's fraud lie.

There will never be enough fraud proven to overturn this election. The incompetence and audacity of a Narcissistic Sociopath doomed his own re-election when he decided to LIE to the American People about a deadly virus. That is what took trump down. Did God send the Pandemic to save America from Authoritarianism? Think about it.....
Wow, now it "enough fraud to overturn" instead of no fraud.

What a goalpost moving little shit you are.
Don't be a horse's ars....there are always irregularities in the vote...and some fraud was found by committed by REPUBLICANS.

Yet the irregularities that mattered all happened in large Dem controlled areas, and all helped Biden get elected.

Yet the house went more to Republicans, yet many States went more to republicans, yet many republican areas in the States where the cities had issues went more to republicans.

Yet the Senate is a toss-up in a year where Dems had an easier chance of gains.

And all in a year where early and mail in voting made it easier to cheat.
Oh? What was different this year than others that made mail-in ballots easier to cheat?
More of them, more lax rules on acceptance.
"More" does not equate to "easier." "Lax rules," maybe.
More due to reducing the usual requirements.

To me election day should be 1.5 days. 36 hours going back from 10 PM the night of election day. You sign in, you show ID, you vote.
Fortunately, you have no say in how we run elections.
Well, a little say. A vote in his state like anyone else for who make the laws governing elections.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.

I'm sorry but if you are going to quote fake news I can not take you serioulsy.

No way.
 

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74 Million didn't. That's a hung jury, not a conviction.
Juries need to be unanimous

Elections don't
That's below Marty's limited IQ.

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I showed your reference to be flawed, and you won't admit it.
Uh, no, there was no flaw as my reference was not about a criminal conviction but a political conviction. Just like the U.S. Senate can vote to convict an impeached president which does not end with a hung jury; the U.S. electorate voted to convict where the Republican-led Senate wouldn't.
You said the election "convicted him". Clearly not the case.
You low IQ idiot, that couldn't be more clear that I was talking about a political conviction, not a criminal conviction. :cuckoo:
 

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Dem dirty tricks probably cost him the election. and you would be OK with that because you got the result you wanted.

You just won't admit it.
Republicans at all levels of Government exceeded expectations and got elected.

Trump was not
His own antics are to blame
Or cheating in the Presidential Election in critical States.
A pity Impeached Trump couldn't prove that in court.
As a Jewish man are you ready to see Israel attacked?
 

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Dem dirty tricks probably cost him the election. and you would be OK with that because you got the result you wanted.

You just won't admit it.
Republicans at all levels of Government exceeded expectations and got elected.

Trump was not
His own antics are to blame
Or cheating in the Presidential Election in critical States.
A pity Impeached Trump couldn't prove that in court.
Yet.

I don't think there is the time to prove it within the election timeline. I say he should not concede, not attend the inauguration, snub all precedent, and fight on after.
 

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SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.
"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
He has had more than ample time to prove his case. The nations top CONSERVATIVE legal teams have all stepped away from this lie of fraud. Can not you see?.....trump has been lying through the entirely of this Regime. It all started when he lied about the size of his inauguration and his hands....and he has not stopped in four years.

You should have gotten a hint when he appointed dye bleeding Rudy to head his case. He was the last attorney in the country who was willing to peddle trump's fraud lie.

There will never be enough fraud proven to overturn this election. The incompetence and audacity of a Narcissistic Sociopath doomed his own re-election when he decided to LIE to the American People about a deadly virus. That is what took trump down. Did God send the Pandemic to save America from Authoritarianism? Think about it.....
Wow, now it "enough fraud to overturn" instead of no fraud.

What a goalpost moving little shit you are.
Don't be a horse's ars....there are always irregularities in the vote...and some fraud was found by committed by REPUBLICANS.

Yet the irregularities that mattered all happened in large Dem controlled areas, and all helped Biden get elected.

Yet the house went more to Republicans, yet many States went more to republicans, yet many republican areas in the States where the cities had issues went more to republicans.

Yet the Senate is a toss-up in a year where Dems had an easier chance of gains.

And all in a year where early and mail in voting made it easier to cheat.
Oh? What was different this year than others that made mail-in ballots easier to cheat?
More of them, more lax rules on acceptance.
"More" does not equate to "easier." "Lax rules," maybe.
More due to reducing the usual requirements.

To me election day should be 1.5 days. 36 hours going back from 10 PM the night of election day. You sign in, you show ID, you vote.
Fortunately, you have no say in how we run elections.
Nice non-response, bukaki bait.
 

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74 Million didn't. That's a hung jury, not a conviction.
Juries need to be unanimous

Elections don't
That's below Marty's limited IQ.

:abgg2q.jpg:
I showed your reference to be flawed, and you won't admit it.
Uh, no, there was no flaw as my reference was not about a criminal conviction but a political conviction. Just like the U.S. Senate can vote to convict an impeached president which does not end with a hung jury; the U.S. electorate voted to convict where the Republican-led Senate wouldn't.
You said the election "convicted him". Clearly not the case.
You low IQ idiot, that couldn't be more clear that I was talking about a political conviction, not a criminal conviction. :cuckoo:
Nah, you implied criminal conviction, an attempted and failed bon-mot.

And you got called.
 

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Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.
Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?
Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"
When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.
Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?
the purpose of foreign aid is certainly not to get the foreign country to sling mud for you against your likely opponent. lol.
Wow, talk about being ignorant.
you want to make the case that foreign aid is for that purpose, fatso? i would not be surprised.
It's always been the case, it's just different for Trump because of "reasons"
The “reasons” in this case were Trump demanding personal favors in return for military aid.

Got him impeached
AND... it cost him the election against Biden, who he was trying to eliminate from the race with that extortion. That reveals Impeached Trump knew who his main rival was.
Dem dirty tricks probably cost him the election. and you would be OK with that because you got the result you wanted.

You just won't admit it.
Liar. I would not be ok with that.
Bullshit.

I can see them showing widespread fraud after a year on investigation, and people like you justifying it because "Trump was just that bad"

Until the next Republican runs.
I am not responsible for your delusions. :eusa_naughty:
 

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but is meaningless because TDS sufferers wouldn't admit to it even if given hard evidence because the purported fraud got them the result they wanted.
They call this a hasty generalization. You are not talking to a TDS sufferer you are talking to me. Nothing in my post even suggests that I'm not willing to say I'm wrong. In fact all the steps I've described are done to precisely find out if I'm wrong. You don't have to even take my word for it. Type in my name and the phrase "I stand corrected" you will find not one but probably dozens.
Even if a year from now, it was proven beyond a doubt, they would probably then justify it as needed to "save our democracy"
How do you know? Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. In my original response did you find any indication I'd justify it? Again a hasty generalization.
I am told to think that people who have said Trump is the worst thing that ever happened to us and must be removed would never ever cheat to remove him. So either they are lying about how bad he is, or they are lying about cheating.
Explain that to me. Are you claiming that you can't think Trump is the worst president in history and simply vote him out legitimately?
Either way, they are lying.
Who is lying? The way I see it, the only people who've been lying so far is Trump's legal team, since they aren't willing to produce the massive amount of evidence they claim to have.


So far I've been very polite to you Marty. Giving you the respect of taking your premise at face value. As far as I can tell, the only person who's doing that so far in this post. If you rather do the name-calling thing, deflect and otherwise try to derail what I say. You are welcome to do so. Just remember my last step. You would personally convince me that I'm right. Give me a piece of information I don't have or a new perspective.
Marty "Sour Grapes" Began is just a sore loser. He's just muddling through phase III of depression.
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Fuck off, cum-guzzler.
Would you mind keeping your homo-erotic fantasies to yourself?
 

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Dem dirty tricks probably cost him the election. and you would be OK with that because you got the result you wanted.

You just won't admit it.
Republicans at all levels of Government exceeded expectations and got elected.

Trump was not
His own antics are to blame
Or cheating in the Presidential Election in critical States.
A pity Impeached Trump couldn't prove that in court.
As a Jewish man are you ready to see Israel attacked?
Of course not. Fortunately, they've done a rather remarkable job defending themselves.
 

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