Zone1 Let it be said that legalized abortion on demand cheapens/ devalues life.

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That is where you are dead wrong, and the sooner you realize that short of a Constitutional Amendment banning abortion, you are pissing into the wind.

Never going to happen. As the bronze age religions becaome more and more obsolete and lose political power, abortion will again become widely available and legal.

 

[Chuz Life]

It is not a chance. It is a certainty, and you are simply a fool.

I was told just as vehemently that Roe would never be overturned.

Now it is.

I'm sure many thought that Dred Scott decision was the "final word."

Until it wasn't.

 

[Chuz Life]

Never going to happen. As the bronze age religions becaome more and more obsolete and lose political power, abortion will again become widely available and legal.

Thanks for supporting the claim in my OP!

 

[Midnight FM]

Never going to happen. As the bronze age religions becaome more and more obsolete and lose political power, abortion will again become widely available and legal.

Oh please, how long do you think it will it take you to remove laws against murder from our state and federal statutes?

10 years, 100 years, 1000 years?

You guys have been trying to that since Moses came down from the mountain with the 10 Commandments, and still haven't done it. It'll never happen.

If anything, the advent of the internet has made graphic depictions of post-zygote stage abortions more widely available to the public, and will influence their attitudes against it:

 

[Chuz Life]

You deny the rights of the mother, when you let those of the fetus supersede hers.

So this melodramatic, bad acting isnt going to work for you.

Unless the woman was raped (and this is partly why the exception for rape is justified). . . . Unless the woman was raped, she compromised her autonomy rights, herself. . . . when she (along with her partner) created a new human life and body, biologically connected to "her body."

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was told just as vehemently that Roe would never be overturned.

Now it is.

I'm sure many thought that Dred Scott decision was the "final word."

Until it wasn't.

Someone lied to you, and you were ignorant enough to believe it. Even Ginsberg knew it was a bad decision.

Dred Scott dealt with Constitutional rights. Abortion does not. It is readily apparent you would have flunked a good high school government course.

You do realize Dred Scott was never overturned. It was overruled by Constitutional Amendment.

 

[Chuz Life]

Someone lied to you, and you were ignorant enough to believe it. Even Ginsberg knew it was a bad decision.

Dred Scott dealt with Constitutional rights. Abortion does not. It is readily apparent you would have flunked a good high school government course.

You do realize Dred Scott was never overturned. It was overruled by Constitutional Amendment.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Roe V Wade Applied Us Constitution With Solo Mun Wisdom "

* Nothing Knew Among Idiots At Large *

Someone lied to you, and you were ignorant enough to believe it. Even Ginsberg knew it was a bad decision.

The entirety of jurisprudence , the fee press and political institutions are a deplorable disgrace , as dobbs is dumbfounded sedition against us 14th , 9th , 1st and 10th amendments , along with malfeasance against title 1 section 8 of us code .


* Constitutional Rites Of Equal Protection Not Afforded To Any Not Born *

Dred Scott dealt with Constitutional rights. Abortion does not. It is readily apparent you would have flunked a good high school government course.

A republic is comprised of citizens , though not every individual within the domain of a republic is expected to be a citizen .

The term person is deconstructed into per and son meaning countable by census and male , such that by etymology and applied use of the term person in us 14th amendment , females are not citizens of us republic , else see us 19th amendment .

* Traitorous Acts Through Selling Disinformation *

You do realize Dred Scott was never overturned. It was overruled by Constitutional Amendment.

And yet you keep rattling lies that states somehow have the power to abrogate the enumerated rite of equal protection in us 14th amendment , that includes a live birth requirement .

 

[Chuz Life]

" Roe V Wade Applied Us Constitution With Solo Mun Wisdom "

* Nothing Knew Among Idiots At Large *

The entirety of jurisprudence , the fee press and political institutions are a deplorable disgrace , as dobbs is dumbfounded sedition against us 14th , 9th , 1st and 10th amendments , along with malfeasance against title 1 section 8 of us code .


* Constitutional Rites Of Equal Protection Not Afforded To Any Not Born *

A republic is comprised of citizens , though not every individual within the domain of a republic is expected to be a citizen .

The term person is deconstructed into per and son meaning countable by census and male , such that by etymology and applied use of the term person in us 14th amendment , females are not citizens of us republic , else see us 19th amendment .

* Traitorous Acts Through Selling Disinformation *

And yet you keep rattling lies that states somehow have the power to abrogate the enumerated rite of equal protection in us 14th amendment , that includes a live birth requirement .

From your own link:1 U.S. Code § 8 - “Person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual” as including born-alive infant.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" All Proud Of Looking Stupid "

* Captain Of Buffoonery Thoughts Gets Struck Again *

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A us government is not allowed to discriminate between individuals based on sex and a marriage contract is between two individuals .

Feel free to dismiss recognition by government of a marriage contract between two individuals as libertarians suggest .

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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I see your ignorance is terminal. Oh, well!

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Reviles Us Citizenship While Struggling To Understand The Cold Cruel Nature Of Reality "

* Must Cross Live Birth Finish Line To Satisfy Enumerated Rite For Equal Protection With A Us Citizen *

From your own link:1 U.S. Code § 8 - “Person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual” as including born-alive infant.

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(b) As used in this section, the term “born alive”, with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.

 

[Chuz Life]

I see your ignorance is terminal. Oh, well!

Yeah.

Do you like crow?

https://x.com/i/grok/share/LjtPPRFcNAEy81LJDm7UYF0tQ

 

[Chuz Life]

" Reviles Us Citizenship While Struggling To Understand The Cold Cruel Nature Of Reality "

* Must Cross Live Birth Finish Line To Satisfy Enumerated Rite For Equal Protection With A Us Citizen *

(b) As used in this section, the term “born alive”, with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.

Why is section C there?

What do you suppose the purpose for section C is?

1 U.S. Code § 8 - “Person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual” as including born-alive infant

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yeah.

Do you like crow?

https://x.com/i/grok/share/LjtPPRFcNAEy81LJDm7UYF0tQ

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That is an AI-based answer. Almost all of those cases would allow for abortions, not restrict them. States can have differing laws. That is guaranteed by the Constitution. Yes, I believe even AI answers are equally terminally stupid because you can't understand them either.

 

[JoeB131]

And you're in favor of regressing to the attitudes of a comparatively barbaric day and age?

No, I'm just being pragmatic.

We are at the level we are at right now.

At some future period, childbirth might become a thing of the past, as babies will be grown in vats and selected for genetic perfection.

Oh, people will still do that sex thing for recreation, but they wouldn't leave their children to such chance.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

" Roe V Wade Applied Us Constitution With Solo Mun Wisdom "

* Nothing Knew Among Idiots At Large *

The entirety of jurisprudence , the fee press and political institutions are a deplorable disgrace , as dobbs is dumbfounded sedition against us 14th , 9th , 1st and 10th amendments , along with malfeasance against title 1 section 8 of us code .


* Constitutional Rites Of Equal Protection Not Afforded To Any Not Born *

A republic is comprised of citizens , though not every individual within the domain of a republic is expected to be a citizen .

The term person is deconstructed into per and son meaning countable by census and male , such that by etymology and applied use of the term person in us 14th amendment , females are not citizens of us republic , else see us 19th amendment .

* Traitorous Acts Through Selling Disinformation *

And yet you keep rattling lies that states somehow have the power to abrogate the enumerated rite of equal protection in us 14th amendment , that includes a live birth requirement .

I have you on ignore for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty. This only confirms I made the right decision.

 

[JoeB131]

A heartbeat develops at about 5 weeks, the same time that a fetus develops a brain.

I'm not sure what technology is available for detecting brain activity, but since a heartbeat can be detected, it's likely easier to use it as the cutoff point.

Well, it's debatable if the heartbeat develops that early, it might just be the mother's blood ciruclation pushing the blood around between teh fetus and the placenta.

But still, not viable and therefore not a person.

 

[JoeB131]

I was told just as vehemently that Roe would never be overturned.

Now it is.

I'm sure many thought that Dred Scott decision was the "final word."

Until it wasn't.

Nobody thought we'd be stupid enough to overturn Roe.

Now that we are, they'll have to fight state by state to get sensible laws we already had.

Or laws everyone will just ignore until then.

 

[Chuz Life]

That is an AI-based answer. Almost all of those cases would allow for abortions, not restrict them. States can have differing laws. That is guaranteed by the Constitution. Yes, I believe even AI answers are equally terminally stupid because you can't understand them either.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/722