Learning the wrong lesson. Gun Control.

[M14 Shooter]

Any Ar 15 a civilian can own is just a semiautomatic rifle just like any other semiautomatic rifle any civilian can own

It is not. It will take large capacity detachable magazines. Not like this one

or this one

Why can't these take a large capacity magazine?

 

[Blues Man]

Any Ar 15 a civilian can own is just a semiautomatic rifle just like any other semiautomatic rifle any civilian can own

It is not. It will take large capacity detachable magazines. Not like this one

or this one

Why can't these take a large capacity magazine?

Internal mags

CNM wants to ban all rifles with detachable magazines

 

[M14 Shooter]

So really, STFU. We've heard it overt & over & over & over. We know what an AR15 is.

Which of these in an AR15?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Any Ar 15 a civilian can own is just a semiautomatic rifle just like any other semiautomatic rifle any civilian can own

It is not. It will take large capacity detachable magazines. Not like this one

or this one

Why can't these take a large capacity magazine?

Internal mags
CNM wants to ban all rifles with detachable magazines

The BAR has an detachable mag.

 

[Blues Man]

So really, STFU. We've heard it overt & over & over & over. We know what an AR15 is.

Which of these in an AR15?

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What's even funnier is that if you take off the pistol grip no state that bans assault rifles prohibits the sale of that very same gun

 

[M14 Shooter]

They are as rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders so semiautomatic rifles are not the problem

Fifty dead. About as many gun homicides in this one incident in New Zealand than in all of 2009 to 2015 combined (51).
But "semiautomatic rifles are not the problem".
There is no way on earth to excuse the gun nutters' imbecility. There just isn't.

Translation: You cannot form a coherent argument.

 

[hunarcy]

So do you believe all people should have military weapons, like the AR 15. You talk about the Constitution, so people in schools and churches can be fearful of their life is Constitutional , and do you believe in freedom of the press as well.

There needs to be some changes to the constitution, you are talking 2.5 centuries here.

Keep the bible out of it, we have Separation of Church and State AKA the Age of Enlightenment.

1. I have NEVER seen an AR-15 in a school.

2. An AR-15 is not a military weapon. No soldier would take an AR-15 to war instead of an M-16 or an M-4.

3. We do not have Separation of Church and State, we have freedom of Religion and no religious tests for public office.

You seem very ignorant.

 

[Blues Man]

Any Ar 15 a civilian can own is just a semiautomatic rifle just like any other semiautomatic rifle any civilian can own

It is not. It will take large capacity detachable magazines. Not like this one

or this one

Why can't these take a large capacity magazine?

Internal mags
CNM wants to ban all rifles with detachable magazines

The BAR has an detachable mag.

Just shows how little CNM knows. I made the mistake os assuming that he /she/it knew what rifles he she it was posting pictures of

Thanks for the info.

 

[M14 Shooter]

They are as rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders so semiautomatic rifles are not the problem

Really? So you'd agree that handguns are a problem as they are used in about half of all homicides in the US? You're more likely to see your way clear to banning them as they're such a problem?

Handguns -are- used in about half the homicides in the US.
They cannot be banned.

 

[Pilot1]

The ultimate goal is to remove all firearms from the law abiding. Once semi automatics are banned, and criminals and mentally ill still use either them, or other firearms to kill, then they will go after all the others including common bolt action, lever action, pump, revolvers, and single shot firearms.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Unsupportable nonsense. They will never be banned, and no one will attempt confiscation.

On this I disagree.

Confiscations are already occurring through the passage of local laws allowing people to have their guns taken simply because someone says they "FEEL" a person who owns guns "Might" be a threat. 23 states now have such laws and growing. A huge wave of indoctrinated young voters is coming of voting age. They are going to give the Gun Grabbing Left a huge surge in influence.

Such gun grabbing laws will become more widespread and more intrusive and bold. As I type, Gun Grabbers are conjuring up new schemes to use the law against the Constitution.
I foresee minor traffic offenses and such resulting in guns being "legally" taken soon.
They can't just confiscate guns now, so they are doing the next best thing, incremental confiscation...and it's not being significantly challenged.

Obamacare (Socialized health care) will never happen.......(but it did)

You may "currently" live in a Red area protected and insulated from Blue influence and reach, but they will not stop until they reach into your yard and your home, no matter where you are.

NEVER underestimate the enemy (gun grabbers)

 

[M14 Shooter]

They support tyranny.
They believe in fascism.
Therefore according to them, The People should be rendered defenseless and unable to resist.

The state cannot have a monopoly on force, so long as the people remained armed.

 

[Brain357]

In The Shadow Of Exile

Rochester is the city in the best position to tell us whether Exile does what its proponents say it should: reduce gun violence. It has the longest-running program in the country, which continues today. Yet in Rochester, like everywhere else, no one knows whether Exile works. In the program’s 18 years, judges have handed out 633 sentences for a total of 3,411 years in federal prison. But the city had 24 gun murders last year — giving it a rate more than four times New York City’s. And community relations with police, as in many cities, are strained. The enthusiasm for Exile appears to be based more in rhetoric than in evidence, which leaves some people asking whether it’s worth the human costs.

And what gun ban had better success?

Nobody can even say for sure there was success. We tried it nationally and it was a failure. Rochester dropped it. You are bringing up a proven failure.

One problem is that Project Exile itself effectively has not been in use for nearly 20 years

Project Exile: Hype or Worth Bringing Back? - The Loudoun Tribune

HAve to wonder what would have happened if they actually kept at it

Right cause they dropped a good thing? haha

Happens all the time with governments

The point is no gun bans were used and they still had great reductions in murder rates,

But then of course people started calling it "too harsh"

We still have the fullest jails in the world and our homicide rates are 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So really, STFU. We've heard it overt & over & over & over. We know what an AR15 is.

Which of these in an AR15?

View attachment 250872

What's even funnier is that if you take off the pistol grip no state that bans assault rifles prohibits the sale of that very same gun

Correct.
CA compliant, detachable magazine AR:

 

[M14 Shooter]

1. I have NEVER seen an AR-15 in a school.

I have -- I took one in for my science fair project my junior year.

 

[Brain357]

Any Ar 15 a civilian can own is just a semiautomatic rifle just like any other semiautomatic rifle any civilian can own

It is not. It will take large capacity detachable magazines. Not like this one

or this one

Why can't these take a large capacity magazine?

Internal mags
CNM wants to ban all rifles with detachable magazines

The BAR has an detachable mag.

Just shows how little CNM knows. I made the mistake os assuming that he /she/it knew what rifles he she it was posting pictures of

Thanks for the info.

What we know is that semi-auto rifles with high capacity magazines have been used in our worst mass shootings. They kill lots of people really fast. Should be heavily regulated just like machine guns.

 

[Blues Man]

And what gun ban had better success?

Nobody can even say for sure there was success. We tried it nationally and it was a failure. Rochester dropped it. You are bringing up a proven failure.

One problem is that Project Exile itself effectively has not been in use for nearly 20 years

Project Exile: Hype or Worth Bringing Back? - The Loudoun Tribune

HAve to wonder what would have happened if they actually kept at it

Right cause they dropped a good thing? haha

Happens all the time with governments

The point is no gun bans were used and they still had great reductions in murder rates,

But then of course people started calling it "too harsh"

We still have the fullest jails in the world and our homicide rates are 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control.

Because we incarcerate the wrong people,

EVen an idiot like you should know that most of our prison population is made up of people with drug convictions

 

[Blues Man]

It is not. It will take large capacity detachable magazines. Not like this one

or this one

Why can't these take a large capacity magazine?

Internal mags
CNM wants to ban all rifles with detachable magazines

The BAR has an detachable mag.

Just shows how little CNM knows. I made the mistake os assuming that he /she/it knew what rifles he she it was posting pictures of

Thanks for the info.

What we know is that semi-auto rifles with high capacity magazines have been used in our worst mass shootings. They kill lots of people really fast. Should be heavily regulated just like machine guns.

What we do know is that rifles of any kind are only used in 2% of all murders so banning any rifle will have no effect on murder rates

 

[M14 Shooter]

Unsupportable nonsense. They will never be banned, and no one will attempt confiscation.

On this I disagree.
Confiscations are already occurring through the passage of local laws allowing people to have their guns taken simply because someone says they "FEEL" a person who owns guns "Might" be a threat.

My statement was made in the context of a general ban on 'assault weapons'.

Red flag laws, where the anti-gun loons can, absent any probable cause whatsoever, have anyone's gun taken away and force them to take the state to court to get them back are an anti-gun loon's wet dream.

 

[Blues Man]

It is not. It will take large capacity detachable magazines. Not like this one

or this one

Why can't these take a large capacity magazine?

Internal mags
CNM wants to ban all rifles with detachable magazines

The BAR has an detachable mag.

Just shows how little CNM knows. I made the mistake os assuming that he /she/it knew what rifles he she it was posting pictures of

Thanks for the info.

What we know is that semi-auto rifles with high capacity magazines have been used in our worst mass shootings. They kill lots of people really fast. Should be heavily regulated just like machine guns.

What we know is that most gun crimes are committed by people who are prohibited under federal law from possessing any firearm

And what that tells us is restricting the legal ownership of guns will have no effect on gun crimes