Lawsuit to block Trump from Colorado 2024 ballot survives more legal challenges

[BidenBeHiden]

SOCK ALERT!!!

I see the minion to the copy/paste "God" is angry. I'm terribly sorry to have disrupted your echo chamber.

 

[BidenBeHiden]

A republic works with laws, not strongmen who want to be a dictator, even for a day, because we know that never happens.

The effect that laws have are guided by ethics. Refusing to enforce the laws or interpreting them in a perverse way isn't ethical conduct. The Democrats have unfortunately thrown ethics out the window in pursuit of a uniparty country. Using an obsolete law meant to keep former Confederates from taking office and applying it to the 21st century is the definition of perverse. It's too bad there's people like you stupid enough to believe the liberal propaganda.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I see the minion to the copy/paste "God" is angry. I'm terribly sorry to have disrupted your echo chamber.

Sock Alert!!

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The effect that laws have are guided by ethics. Refusing to enforce the laws or interpreting them in a perverse way isn't ethical conduct. The Democrats have unfortunately thrown ethics out the window in pursuit of a uniparty country. Using an obsolete law meant to keep former Confederates from taking office and applying it to the 21st century is the definition of perverse. It's too bad there's people like you stupid enough to believe the liberal propaganda.

Well, that's an opinion, no matter how poorly it is thought out and then crafted. Liberty University gets worse every year.

 

[BidenBeHiden]

Well, that's an opinion, no matter how poorly it is thought out and then crafted. Liberty University gets worse every year.

Well, that's an opinion, no matter how poorly it is thought out and then crafted. Liberal Universities get worse every year.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Thank you for being the clown. Now go ahead and repeat.

 

[Synthaholic]

I see the minion to the copy/paste "God" is angry. I'm terribly sorry to have disrupted your echo chamber.

Apology accepted. Now get the **** out.

 

[BidenBeHiden]

Apology accepted. Now get the **** out.

I see you've chosen the blue pill. Now you vanish away to the daily grind of copy/pasting in your fantasy land. Just know that judgment will be coming for the lot of you someday.

 

[konradv]

The effect that laws have are guided by ethics. Refusing to enforce the laws or interpreting them in a perverse way isn't ethical conduct. The Democrats have unfortunately thrown ethics out the window in pursuit of a uniparty country. Using an obsolete law meant to keep former Confederates from taking office and applying it to the 21st century is the definition of perverse. It's too bad there's people like you stupid enough to believe the liberal propaganda.

Trump is the definition of perverse.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I see you've chosen the blue pill. Now you vanish away to the daily grind of copy/pasting in your fantasy land.

Just know that judgment will be coming for the lot of you someday.

 

[konradv]

I see you've chosen the blue pill. Now you vanish away to the daily grind of copy/pasting in your fantasy land. Just know that judgment will be coming for the lot of you someday.

The red pill is a scam to keep you entrapped in an alternate reality. Didn’t you get the point of the movie?

 

[BidenBeHiden]

The red pill is a scam to keep you entrapped in an alternate reality. Didn’t you get the point of the movie?

You mixed up the colors, libtard. From Wikipedia:

"The concept of red and blue pills has since been widely used as a political metaphor in the United States, where "taking the red pill" or being "red-pilled" means becoming aware of the political biases inherent in society, including in the mainstream media, and ultimately becoming an independent thinker; while "taking the blue pill" or being "blue-pilled" means unquestioningly accepting these supposed biases."

 

[konradv]

You mixed up the colors, libtard. From Wikipedia:

That’s what they want you to believe. Hollywood is not your friend.

 

[Synthaholic]

From Brian Beutler's excellent newsletter:

All six of the court’s conservatives echoed right-wing elites in some fashion or other. Brett Kavanaugh, who never met a voting-rights restriction he wouldn’t happily read into the Constitution, went to bat for the “principle” of democracy. Samuel Alito intimated that if Trump were disqualified, Biden could be as well, for engaging in foreign policy with Iran. Two of them (Alito and Neil Gorsuch) treated the lawyer arguing for the Colorado plaintiffs (a former Gorsuch clerk no less) with hostility. At the same time, two of the court’s three liberals (Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson) indicated openness to joining Republicans in a supermajority opinion reinstating Trump on Colorado ballots and pre-empting any other states from holding Trump accountable for engaging in insurrection.

The lingering problem for this bourgeoning supermajority is that they lack sound legal grounds for exempting Trump from the Constitution in this way. Over and over again the justices returned to the legally irrelevant objection that upholding Trump’s disqualification would be messy. It might invite retaliation. It might create a state-by-state patchwork of presidential ballots—something independent candidates for president will be surprised to discover is grounds for Supreme Court intervention.

And so, when they convene to write the opinion of the court, they will have to invoke chickenshit arguments of one kind or another, some of which will contradict their longstanding views on questions of states’ rights or election law or the force of the 14th amendment.

My instinctive preference would be for the liberal justices to write an unassailable dissent, and let John Roberts and the five justices to his right further degrade their illegitimate majority with made up justifications for doing another favor for another Republican presidential candidate.

But insofar as the liberal justices want or are willing to provide cover to the other six—to validate their spoliation of the Constitution—they could soften the blow by using their votes as leverage.

 

[BidenBeHiden]

That’s what they want you to believe. Hollywood is not your friend.

Ah yes, you've been conditioned very well comrade! "to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary".

 

[konradv]

Ah yes, you've been conditioned very well comrade! "to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary".

You’re one of those 2 +2 = 5 guys, eh? Can’t see the forest for the trees! If Hollywood tells you the red pill is good, you need to swallow a double dose of blue.

 

[BidenBeHiden]

It's going to be real hard to win 270 electoral votes when you can't even compete in certain states. Not that he would win 270 in the first place. MAGA is done.

Lawsuit to block Trump from Colorado 2024 ballot survives more legal challenges​

A judge has rejected three more attempts by former President Donald Trump and the Colorado GOP to shut down a lawsuit seeking to block him from the 2024 presidential ballot in the state based on the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban.”

The flurry of rulings late Friday from Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace are a blow to Trump, who faces candidacy challenges in multiple states stemming from his role in the January 6, 2021, insurrection. He still has a pending motion to throw out the Colorado lawsuit, but the case now appears on track for an unprecedented trail this month.

A post-Civil War provision of the 14th Amendment says US officials who take an oath to uphold the Constitution are disqualified from future office if they “engaged in insurrection” or have “given aid or comfort” to insurrectionists. But the Constitution does not spell out how to enforce the ban, and it has been applied only twice since the 1800s.


A liberal watchdog group called Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed the Colorado case on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated voters. The judge is scheduled to preside over a trial beginning October 30 to decide a series of novel legal questions about how the 14th Amendment could apply to Trump.

In a 24-page ruling, Wallace rejected many of Trump’s arguments that the case was procedurally flawed and should be shut down. She said the key question of whether Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold has the power to block Trump from the ballot based on the 14th Amendment “is a pivotal issue and one best reserved for trial.”

Wallace also swatted away arguments from the Colorado GOP that state law gives the party, not election officials, ultimate say on which candidates appear on the ballot.

Good news indeed.

Now we just gotta get them to apply it to both houses of congress.

Wouldn't hurt to comb through the judiciary as well.

Got to concentrate on WI, MI, GA, AZ, OH, PA.

Trump disqualified himself when he attempted a coup.

Sad news...

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Judge Sarah B. Wallace presides over closing arguments in a hearing for a lawsuit to keep former President Donald Trump off the state ballot, Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2023, in Denver.

DENVER (AP) — A Colorado judge on Friday found that former President Donald Trump engaged in insurrection during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol but rejected an effort to keep him off the state’s primary ballot because it's unclear whether a Civil War-era Constitutional amendment barring insurrectionists from public office applies to the presidency.

Colorado Judge Finds Trump Engaged In Insurrection, But Rejects Constitutional Ballot Challenge

A Colorado judge has found that former President Donald Trump engaged in insurrection in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol but rejected an effort to keep him off the state’s primary ballot.

www.huffpost.com

MAGA is overdone and will be in the bins by Spring.

I've been waiting for over a year to come back to this thread. You liberal freaks tried everything and still LOST! Copy and paste this MOOOORON!

 

[roderick]

From Brian Beutler's excellent newsletter:

All six of the court’s conservatives echoed right-wing elites in some fashion or other. Brett Kavanaugh, who never met a voting-rights restriction he wouldn’t happily read into the Constitution, went to bat for the “principle” of democracy. Samuel Alito intimated that if Trump were disqualified, Biden could be as well, for engaging in foreign policy with Iran. Two of them (Alito and Neil Gorsuch) treated the lawyer arguing for the Colorado plaintiffs (a former Gorsuch clerk no less) with hostility. At the same time, two of the court’s three liberals (Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson) indicated openness to joining Republicans in a supermajority opinion reinstating Trump on Colorado ballots and pre-empting any other states from holding Trump accountable for engaging in insurrection.

The lingering problem for this bourgeoning supermajority is that they lack sound legal grounds for exempting Trump from the Constitution in this way. Over and over again the justices returned to the legally irrelevant objection that upholding Trump’s disqualification would be messy. It might invite retaliation. It might create a state-by-state patchwork of presidential ballots—something independent candidates for president will be surprised to discover is grounds for Supreme Court intervention.

And so, when they convene to write the opinion of the court, they will have to invoke chickenshit arguments of one kind or another, some of which will contradict their longstanding views on questions of states’ rights or election law or the force of the 14th amendment.

My instinctive preference would be for the liberal justices to write an unassailable dissent, and let John Roberts and the five justices to his right further degrade their illegitimate majority with made up justifications for doing another favor for another Republican presidential candidate.

But insofar as the liberal justices want or are willing to provide cover to the other six—to validate their spoliation of the Constitution—they could soften the blow by using their votes as leverage.

tldr

Summary: You lost!

 

[roderick]

Hollywood is not your friend.

Let's hope not!

 

[BidenBeHiden]

Thank you for being the clown. Now go ahead and repeat.

Thank you for being the clown. Now go ahead and repeat.