LA blocks new ghetto fast food joints

[manifold]

LA blocks new fast-food outlets from poor areas - Yahoo! News

The City Council voted unanimously Tuesday to place a moratorium on new fast food restaurants in an impoverished swath of the city with a proliferation of such eateries and above average rates of obesity.

The yearlong moratorium is intended to give the city time to attract restaurants that serve healthier food. The action, which the mayor must still sign into law, is believed to be the first of its kind by a major city to protect public health

Interesting how obesity is a big problem among impoverished Americans. Just like in Somalia.

 

[Ravi]

Why do you think that is?

 

[busara]

LA blocks new fast-food outlets from poor areas - Yahoo! News




Interesting how obesity is a big problem among impoverished Americans. Just like in Somalia.

fast food is cheap. it is also extremely unhealthy. often people dont have time to make their own food, or they cant afford to get an oven or pots and pans, etc, to make their own food. the only choice left is mcD's

 

[Bern80]

fast food is cheap. it is also extremely unhealthy. often people dont have time to make their own food, or they cant afford to get an oven or pots and pans, etc, to make their own food. the only choice left is mcD's

So we should mandate the 'choices' people can make... for their own good of course.

 

[busara]

So we should mandate the 'choices' people can make... for their own good of course.

i didnt say that. was just giving reasons why many low income earners eat at fastfood places

 

[Ravi]

So we should mandate the 'choices' people can make... for their own good of course.

So you don't think a city can put a moratorium on new businesses? How is this different than putting a moratorium on new baseball stadiums, or strip clubs, or gas stations...???

Seems to me they are addressing a health problem that affects their EMT outlay, no?

 

[DiamondDave]

So you don't think a city can put a moratorium on new businesses? How is this different than putting a moratorium on new baseball stadiums, or strip clubs, or gas stations...???

Seems to me they are addressing a health problem that affects their EMT outlay, no?

Nobody is forcing someone to eat nothing but McD's french fries...

There is a little thing called freedom that I take very seriously... if the populace don't want it, they won't bu it, and the business will fail...

Many times with strip clubs, it is against county or state ordinance... hence not legal to operate... against a community standard... last I knew a burger is not against any ordinance... trans fat or whatever is not a display of something that is generally illegal in public (indecent exposure is)

 

[manifold]

So we should mandate the 'choices' people can make... for their own good of course.

That's been happening since day one of civilization. I'm simultaneously amused, befuddled and saddened to see that you're just now figuring that out.

 

[busara]

Nobody is forcing someone to eat nothing but McD's french fries...

There is a little thing called freedom that I take very seriously... if the populace don't want it, they won't bu it, and the business will fail...

Many times with strip clubs, it is against county or state ordinance... hence not legal to operate... against a community standard... last I knew a burger is not against any ordinance... trans fat or whatever is not a display of something that is generally illegal in public (indecent exposure is)

so if trans fat becomes 'generally illegal in public' you would be fine with this ban?

 

[Ravi]

Nobody is forcing someone to eat nothing but McD's french fries...

There is a little thing called freedom that I take very seriously... if the populace don't want it, they won't bu it, and the business will fail...

Many times with strip clubs, it is against county or state ordinance... hence not legal to operate... against a community standard... last I knew a burger is not against any ordinance... trans fat or whatever is not a display of something that is generally illegal in public (indecent exposure is)

They aren't closing restaurants down. They are simply not allowing any more to be built. No one is being deprived of their Whopper fix.

 

[DiamondDave]

so if trans fat becomes 'generally illegal in public' you would be fine with this ban?

If it was actually illegal (though I doubt it would or should be)... then I would be fine with enforcing that law...

But if the fast food restaurant abides by it, whether any liberal socialist control freaks want to keep the business from building the stores or not, I am totally against the ban... as stated, the purchasing public would decide whether they want it or not

 

[DiamondDave]

They aren't closing restaurants down. They are simply not allowing any more to be built. No one is being deprived of their Whopper fix.

Because the control freaks want to be the overseer and mandate... if the community wants, accepts, and supports it... they will.. if not, the place will go out of business anyway

 

[busara]

If it was actually illegal (though I doubt it would or should be)... then I would be fine with enforcing that law...

But if the fast food restaurant abides by it, whether any liberal socialist control freaks want to keep the business from building the stores or not, I am totally against the ban... as stated, the purchasing public would decide whether they want it or not

but by that thinking the state can make anything it wants illegal, and you would then support the upholding of the law, regardless of what it is

 

[Shogun]

they are being deprived of anything ELSE that might have come available to them...

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Why do you think that is?

Cause they are not as poor as some would lead us to believe.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

fast food is cheap. it is also extremely unhealthy. often people dont have time to make their own food, or they cant afford to get an oven or pots and pans, etc, to make their own food. the only choice left is mcD's

Perhaps a single dollar burger is cheap but Mac Donalds and other fast food places are not cheap to eat at. 6 dollars for a meal is cheaper than a restraunt but still expensive and gonna get higher if gas doesn't drop.

The problem is that there are no good FOOD stores in those neighborhoods. Only the quicky marts and such that have less stock so charge a lot more. The city would be better served if along with the search for better restraunts these people can not afford to eat at, they find some way to get large cheaper food store chains in the neighborhood.

 

[manifold]

Cause they are not as poor as some would lead us to believe.

Or at least not by "international" standards that is.

But then again, having a higher benchmark for the poverty level would seem to me to be an indicator of relative success, no?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So you don't think a city can put a moratorium on new businesses? How is this different than putting a moratorium on new baseball stadiums, or strip clubs, or gas stations...???

Seems to me they are addressing a health problem that affects their EMT outlay, no?

See my last post, restaurant are not going to help a thing, they need to get large food store chains in with lower prices. Personally I have no problem with this myself. They are NOT shutting down whats already there, they are just looking for BETTER service for the area, a valid job for a Government of any size, as long they are not banning things all together.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

so if trans fat becomes 'generally illegal in public' you would be fine with this ban?

Trans fat is now illegal in California so he must be ok with it.

 

[busara]

Trans fat is now illegal in California so he must be ok with it.

hey, dont make my points for me! i like exposing hypocrisy