Kyle Rittenhouse trial...already disproving SO MANY LIES from the left

[basquebromance]

Judge Jeanine predicts Rittenhouse will be exonerated! God bless America!

 

[easyt65]

IMO it wasn't. He forfeited his right to self-defense when he went into a violent situation well armed.

How the fuck did he FORCE his right of self-defense on 3 people who chased him, attacked him, and tried to kill him?!

He was armed. This was not an invitation or forcing them to choose to chase him, attack him, and try to kill him.

By your ill-logic anyone carrying a legal weapon that finds themselves in a dangerous situation must NOT defend themselves and let people kill them because having a weapon to defend yourself in a dangerous situation is an open invitation for people to kill you and a loss of their / your right to self-defense.

That us fucking stupid.

 

[basquebromance]

excercising your constitutional rights is not a sign you are guilty, it's a sign you are AMERICAN

Cop Fired After Donating to Kyle Rittenhouse’s Defense Fund

William Kelly reportedly made the donation last fall, commenting, “God bless. Thank you for your courage. Keep your head up. You’ve done nothing wrong.”

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Reporter Shows Up At Paramedic's House Over $10 Donation To Kyle Rittenhouse's Legal Defense Fund

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[AZrailwhale]

Rittenhouse did not shoot Rosenbaum in the back you dumb fucking fool

He shot him in the back, but not from behind. Rittenhouse's last shot was fired from the front as his attacker was lunging at him falling closer and closer to the horizontal as he tried to steal Kyle's weapon.

 

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[Ray From Cleveland]

How the fuck did he FORCE his right of self-defense on 3 people who chased him, attacked him, and tried to kill him?!

He was armed. This was not an invitation or forcing them to choose to chase him, attack him, and try to kill him.

By your ill-logic anyone carrying a legal weapon that finds themselves in a dangerous situation must NOT defend themselves and let people kill them because having a weapon to defend yourself in a dangerous situation is an open invitation for people to kill you and a loss of their / your right to self-defense.

That us fucking stupid.

Now you're accusing me of shit I never said. The law in Wisconsin is that a person can use deadly force covered under self-defense if they used every opportunity to not be forced to use that weapon. Your apples and oranges comparison is that it must mean if you're walking down the street and attacked, you can't use your firearm. I never said anything close to that.

Earlier in this conversation I posted the laws as interpreted by defense lawyers which made clear in order to use self-defense with a deadly weapon, you must have exhausted one of several options, one of which is to get out of the area when you realize there is trouble.

 

[easyt65]

Now you're accusing me of shit I never said. The law in Wisconsin is that a person can use deadly force covered under self-defense if they used every opportunity to not be forced to use that weapon. Your apples and oranges comparison is that it must mean if you're walking down the street and attacked, you can't use your firearm. I never said anything close to that.

Earlier in this conversation I posted the laws as interpreted by defense lawyers which made clear in order to use self-defense with a deadly weapon, you must have exhausted one of several options, one of which is to get out of the area when you realize there is trouble.

The kid retreated, ran for the police. His attackers chose to follow, chase, pursue, attack, & tried to kill him.

Self-defense.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

If he would have gotten the hell out of there he never would have ran into Rosenbaum.

Do you understand that the entire episode occurred because Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse and that he chased him because his group put out the dumpster fire?

The whole thing started with the dumpster fire. Rittenhouse or someone in his group put out the fire and this enraged Rosenbaum for some reason. He started chasing Rittenhouse at this point and when Rittenhouse came to the parking lot of the auto repair business with Rosenbaum right behind him, some jackass fired a pistol in the air.
Rittenhouse found himself cornered by a group of parked cars and stopped and turned around. When he did, Rosenbaum was right there and he tried to grab the gun from Rittenhouse.
Not knowing who fired the shot or why, Rittenhouse may have assumed it was Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum was chasing him and had tried to grab his gun. So he shot to defend himself.

Having said that, even if we can say Rittenhouse should have gotten out of there, the same could be said of everyone involved. Rosenbaum and the others are not to be absolved of their reckless and stupid actions here.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

IMO it wasn't. He forfeited his right to self-defense when he went into a violent situation well armed.

Rittenhouse did not go into a violent situation, the situation became violent when he or someone from the group put out the dumpster fire.

 

[j-mac]

People who don’t want to die don’t advance on people carrying guns. The point missed by the prosecutor was Kyle didn’t fire when he first turned and aimed at Rosenbaum, if he had intended to shoot Rosenbaum, he would have at that moment.

Yes, the prosecutor seems to be assuming all of the worst leftist traits, including not knowing about weapons or ammunition…

 

[Winco]

How the fuck did he FORCE his right of self-defense on 3 people who chased him, attacked him, and tried to kill him?!

All Said, I expect KR to be cleared, not exonerated, just dismissed, for whatever reason.
Kyle will Walk.

 

[j-mac]

Seems like the stupidity was all around that night.

I don't have to know what others are thinking when they pickup an AR-15, attend a riot where everybody else is against you, start antagonizing the participants by cleaning up the mess they made of buildings, putting out the fires they just set, and trying to protect some car lot. It's not like he was with another group of people on his side equal to the amount of rioters. It was him and his buddy.

Yes, kids will make mistakes like going to where they're not supposed to be, but not armed with an AR. I never did that as a kid, did you?

As for the rioters they should be arrested and pay whatever price for the damage they did, but so should this kid. I don't think he should be in prison for the rest of his life, but I think the jury should consider manslaughter charges. And it's not my opinion, it's my training. Wisconsin law does not give self-defense with a firearm unlimited protection. When you intentionally put yourself in a position you will likely use that firearm, it makes self-defense null and void. The law specifically states you are covered under self-defense only if you took every precaution to avoid using the firearm you are carrying. Rittenhouse did the exact opposite. The prosecution not telling the jury about their laws makes it clear to me he is throwing this case on purpose.

1. Can you show the statute where your not allowed to use your firearm in defense of your life?

2. it was many more than he and his buddy…So far this young man is totally handling himself on the stand, as evidenced by the prosceutor being admonished not once but 4 times that I count…And a mistrial under consideration by the judge for the same arguments you’ve made in here.

Rittenhouse is going to be found innocent.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I imagine that it must be difficult to be a prosecutor in a high-profile case that is definitely not going to be won.

All the evidence was already pointing the other way and it doesn’t look like the prosecution has improved on their already-lost position. Rittenhouse is not going to be convicted of his serious charges.

- Rittenhouse breaking down on the witness stand looked pretty bad. Seems like he might be dealing with PTSD.

- However I think there is also some truth to the “shoplifting” video. I think it gives us a glimpse of the mindset of Rittenhouse which would at least partly explain how he got into that situation.

My $0.02.

 

[struth]

I'll see if I can find it again.

But for Rittenhouse's appearance in Kenosha, two people would still be alive right now and a third would have a right arm that actually still worked.

this is true…but means nothing. Americans are allowed to travel…and should feel free to do so without the fear of dnc brownshirts from killing them, and certainly have the right to defend themselves from such attacks

The reality is, had the dnc brownshirts not been supported and encouraged by the dnc cult leaders to loot, riot, firebomb buildings, assault etc they’d still be alive today

Their deaths are their own faults, but the dnc leadership that encouraged their behavior has blood on their hands as well

 

[surada]

this is true…but means nothing. Americans are allowed to travel…and should feel free to do so without the fear of dnc brownshirts from killing them, and certainly have the right to defend themselves from such attacks

The reality is, had the dnc brownshirts not been supported and encouraged by the dnc cult leaders to loot, riot, firebomb buildings, assault etc they’d still be alive today

Their deaths are their own faults, but the dnc leadership that encouraged their behavior has blood on their hands as well

DNC brownshirts? How dramatic. I don't support BLM or Antifa.

 

[struth]

DNC brownshirts? How dramatic. I don't support BLM or Antifa.

glad to hear that your personally don’t…however the party you support does…your VP, Harris, personally helped fund the chaos

Congrats

 

[Care4all]

1. Can you show the statute where your not allowed to use your firearm in defense of your life?

If the two men chasing Rittenhouse were cops with guns, would he have been ok to shoot the cops, in his own self defense???

 

[22lcidw]

DNC brownshirts? How dramatic. I don't support BLM or Antifa.

Of course you don't.

 

[22lcidw]

If the two men chasing Rittenhouse were cops with guns, would he have been ok to shoot the cops, in his own self defense???

So insurrectionists that were destroying everything in sight are no cops with guns.