Kyle Rittenhouse trial...already disproving SO MANY LIES from the left

[JGalt]

Poor Joseph Rosenbaum. He died doing what he loved the best: Trying to touch an unwilling minor.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The media attempted to potray Kyle as a lone wolf white supremacist that was triggered by TRUMPS RHETORIC and drove to Kenosha to murder protestors.


That is exactly how this was characterized. This was willful lying to damage Trump for the upcoming election.

Now we see the truth in court. Not the media LIES to push their political agenda.

Anyone who trusts the CORPORATE SPONSORED MEDIA is really dumb. The evidence is all there of the lies. Open your eyes.

 

[DBA]

He had a choice. When he seen things were out of control he should have hopped in his car and went back home.

That is not relevant. Whether or not he should have been there or whether or not he should have had a gun doesn't preclude his right to self-defense. Are you saying that if he didn't have a gun and he bashed these people's heads in with a bat then the killings would have been justified? Is the weapon the issue here or are you arguing that he didn't have the right to use deadly force when a guy is chasing him and coming towards him with a gun?

 

[PatriotJohn888]

Then Ray Charles doesn't understand the laws either. When you deliberately take a firearm into a heated situation like that you nullified your right to self-defense. The law reads an armed citizen can use deadly force for self-defense if they took every step possible to avoid using that weapon. Rittenhouse did the exact opposite.

That's ignorant and that is not what the law says. Using this logic, there is no situation that affords a person the right to claim self-defense, if he was in a dangerous situation.
Rittenhouse did not provoke a confrontation and he has no duty under Wisconsin law to retreat if he felt there was a reasonable likelihood that he would suffer death or serious bodily injury.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[easyt65]

Ya know, CCP Bitch LeBron James really is an asshole.....

LeBron James mocks Kyle Rittenhouse's courtroom breakdown: 'What tears? Knock it off'

Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James mocked alleged Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse over a video showing the 18-year-old crying in court while testifying in his murder trial.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's ignorant and that is not what the law says. Using this logic, there is no situation that affords a person the right to claim self-defense, if he was in a dangerous situation.
Rittenhouse did not provoke a confrontation and he has no duty under Wisconsin law to retreat if he felt there was a reasonable likelihood that he would suffer death or serious bodily injury.

There is no duty to retreat in Wisconsin. However there are conditions which must be met to use self-defense with a deadly weapon. Again, it's not unconditional.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Ya know, CCP Bitch LeBron James really is an asshole.....

LeBron James mocks Kyle Rittenhouse's courtroom breakdown: 'What tears? Knock it off'

Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James mocked alleged Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse over a video showing the 18-year-old crying in court while testifying in his murder trial.

www.foxnews.com

This is just fucking awful on so many levels.

Holy shit.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That is not relevant. Whether or not he should have been there or whether or not he should have had a gun doesn't preclude his right to self-defense. Are you saying that if he didn't have a gun and he bashed these people's heads in with a bat then the killings would have been justified? Is the weapon the issue here or are you arguing that he didn't have the right to use deadly force when a guy is chasing him and coming towards him with a gun?

My argument is that he took zero measures into trying to escape a very potentially violent situation. It's in their law and probably every state in the union including mine. In other words you can claim self-defense with a deadly weapon IF and they list a number of circumstances you must have followed or tried to follow.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

He did, again you’re sounding like a bitter demofk right now.

are you saying he forfeited his right to live?

hey Ray, what was Kyle’s choice at the moment Rosenbaum ran at him, ziminsku with a pistol? Feel free to offer the option

I don't care if I sound like anything. To get a CCW in my state you need to take 10 hours of class time much of it covering laws. The protection of self-defense has restrictions. I can't go up to somebody in the street, push them to the ground, and when they come after me shoot them claiming self-defense. I would not be covered under our self-defense laws under those circumstances.

 

[easyt65]

My argument is that he took zero measures into trying to escape a very potentially violent situation.

WTF are you talking about?

He ran...he was running to get to the line of cops...he was chased down....he was hit repeatedly with a skateboard....he was kicked / stomped.....the last thug pulled out a pistol with hollow points and aimed it at his head....

The only question was if this was self-defense. It was.

 

[easyt65]

I don't care if I sound like anything. To get a CCW in my state you need to take 10 hours of class time much of it covering laws. The protection of self-defense has restrictions. I can't go up to somebody in the street, push them to the ground, and when they come after me shoot them claiming self-defense. I would not be covered under our self-defense laws under those circumstances.

This kid did not push anyone to the ground. He was attacked. He was not the aggressor. His life was in danger. Self-defense...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what, Rosenbaum didn’t belong there, Kyle’s father lived there! He had more right to be there than Rosenbaum

Why did he not belong there? You have evidence he didn't live there or nearby?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Would this have been before or after Rosenbaum took his gun away from him?

If he would have gotten the hell out of there he never would have ran into Rosenbaum.

 

[Dragonlady]

That's ignorant and that is not what the law says. Using this logic, there is no situation that affords a person the right to claim self-defense, if he was in a dangerous situation.
Rittenhouse did not provoke a confrontation and he has no duty under Wisconsin law to retreat if he felt there was a reasonable likelihood that he would suffer death or serious bodily injury.

Rittenhouse's behaviour was very provacative. He pointed his gun at one man. I would say that the people he subsequently killed indicated that they greatly feared this kid.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This kid did not push anyone to the ground. He was attacked. He was not the aggressor. His life was in danger. Self-defense...

That point seemed to get by you, and that point is self-defense with a deadly weapon is not unconditional. There are restrictions when you can use self-defense.

 

[Faun]

This is just fucking awful on so many levels.

Holy shit.

This is the face you make when you get banned from Twitter...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

WTF are you talking about?

He ran...he was running to get to the line of cops...he was chased down....he was hit repeatedly with a skateboard....he was kicked / stomped.....the last thug pulled out a pistol with hollow points and aimed it at his head....

The only question was if this was self-defense. It was.

IMO it wasn't. He forfeited his right to self-defense when he went into a violent situation well armed.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[easyt65]

That point seemed to get by you, and that point is self-defense with a deadly weapon is not unconditional. There are restrictions when you can use self-defense.

This case meets every requirement for self-defense.

At one point the prosecutors tried to imply if he had not been out there 2 people would not have been killed and 1 wounded.

If those 3 had not been there they would not have been shot.

If they had not chased a kid with a loaded AR-15, had not struck him multiple times with a skateboard, had not stomped on him, had not attempted to take his AR-15, had not tried to kill him none of this would have happened either.

Pardon me, but IMO if you're stupid enough to chase someone with a loaded AR-15 you deserve what you get.

It's like the old story of the dog that chased the car and once he caught it did not know what to do because he didn't think it through.

It's Ike the old story about the hunter that chased the wildcat....then got torn up after catching it.

These 3 guys chased this kid ... and caught him. They attacked him...and he killed 2 and wounded another.

Self Defense.