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Perhaps had they not went out to burn the whole city down being PRICKS maybe they wouldn't get shot.Good!
Yes the old lady needs one. But she lives in New York. The left only want the criminals to have guns there. And DEFUND THE POLICE.
If Rosenbaum had kept his sorry ass at home, he would have certainly been better off.
Much of what you say is true but also irrelevant.As a right wing gun activist, I'm going against the grade of my fellow conservatives here. This kid was looking for trouble and took a firearm with him. He found trouble resulting in the death of two people and injuring another.
First off he had a gun illegally because he was underage. Being underage with a gun in public is no different than being a convicted felon with a gun. It's illegal. Secondly, it is not the citizens duty to protect property or other people in a confrontational situation. That's what we have police for. If you want to get involved in a potentially dangerous situation, leave your gun at home. If you get the shit kicked out of you, well, that's what you went there for.
As a CCW holder in my state (yes, I know he didn't have a CCW) you are taught to avoid situations that may force you to use deadly force. He deliberately and knowingly entered a violent situation. He took zero precautions to avoid it. The death of these people were because he decided to go into a violent situation with an illegal deadly weapon could have easily been avoided.
Carrying a firearm is for self-defense when outside your home, not looking for trouble and then using that firearm.
Much of what you say is true but also irrelevant.
When one obtains a gun illegally they do not surrender their right to self defense even with that illegal gun. When someone hangs out near a riot for whatever reason and plays rentacop they may be immature and stupid but they still have a right to defend themselves.
Regardless of politics the issue of self defense is what this is about.
The kid was Naive and stupid........the gov't supported these dang riots with Burn Loot and Murder crap. I remember he said he went there to protect business. Wasn't his job but he is Naive. In the end, HE WAS RUNNING AWAY to avoid the fight. And ONLY FIRED when he HAD NO CHOICE. The people after him were there to RIOT, burn and loot.Self defense is what takes place when you are attacked through no fault of your own. This kid ran out to confront an angry mob to protect private property which he had no authority or obligation to do. In other words he put himself in a position of having to defend himself and used a deadly weapon illegally.
Our state just recently passed our Stand Your Ground law in spring of this year. Prior to that, if you found yourself in a confrontational situation and escalated it, you could not use deadly force because you didn't exercise your duty to retreat. Using deadly force would put you in jail and likely prison.
I don't think he should be charged with murder and put away for the rest of his life. But IMO, without a doubt he is guilty of manslaughter. It's not like he was walking to the store and accosted. He confronted these people and had to know there would be no good end to it.
Under the scenario you just painted he DID exercise his futy to retreat. The evidence also tells a different story. They began chasing him after he used an extinguisher to put out a fire.Self defense is what takes place when you are attacked through no fault of your own. This kid ran out to confront an angry mob to protect private property which he had no authority or obligation to do. In other words he put himself in a position of having to defend himself and used a deadly weapon illegally.
Our state just recently passed our Stand Your Ground law in spring of this year. Prior to that, if you found yourself in a confrontational situation and escalated it, you could not use deadly force because you didn't exercise your duty to retreat. Using deadly force would put you in jail and likely prison.
I don't think he should be charged with murder and put away for the rest of his life. But IMO, without a doubt he is guilty of manslaughter. It's not like he was walking to the store and accosted. He confronted these people and had to know there would be no good end to it.
Self defense is what takes place when you are attacked through no fault of your own. This kid ran out to confront an angry mob to protect private property which he had no authority or obligation to do. In other words he put himself in a position of having to defend himself and used a deadly weapon illegally.
Our state just recently passed our Stand Your Ground law in spring of this year. Prior to that, if you found yourself in a confrontational situation and escalated it, you could not use deadly force because you didn't exercise your duty to retreat. Using deadly force would put you in jail and likely prison.
I don't think he should be charged with murder and put away for the rest of his life. But IMO, without a doubt he is guilty of manslaughter. It's not like he was walking to the store and accosted. He confronted these people and had to know there would be no good end to it.
The kid was Naive and stupid........the gov't supported these dang riots with Burn Loot and Murder crap. I remember he said he went there to protect business. Wasn't his job but he is Naive. In the end, HE WAS RUNNING AWAY to avoid the fight. And ONLY FIRED when he HAD NO CHOICE. The people after him were there to RIOT, burn and loot.
I don't give a damn that he shot that guy who chased him. That guy should have been HOME instead of burning down the city. So he got the Darwin award. Oh Well.
I'm sick and tired to the left doing violence EVERY DAMN ELECTION. And then saying look what you did. They use the media to ramp it up and cause violence everywhere by design.
I.m actually ticked off at Trump over this. When this began I would have called in the National Guard immediately with orders to END IT. NOW. This should have never been allowed to get as bad as it did.
Inaction by Gov't caused this. Political BS made the police STAND DOWN......and so people took matters into their own hand because the Gov't abandoned its DUTY.
As a right wing gun activist, I'm going against the grade of my fellow conservatives here. This kid was looking for trouble and took a firearm with him. He found trouble resulting in the death of two people and injuring another.
First off he had a gun illegally because he was underage. Being underage with a gun in public is no different than being a convicted felon with a gun. It's illegal. Secondly, it is not the citizens duty to protect property or other people in a confrontational situation. That's what we have police for. If you want to get involved in a potentially dangerous situation, leave your gun at home. If you get the shit kicked out of you, well, that's what you went there for.
As a CCW holder in my state (yes, I know he didn't have a CCW) you are taught to avoid situations that may force you to use deadly force. He deliberately and knowingly entered a violent situation. He took zero precautions to avoid it. The death of these people were because he decided to go into a violent situation with an illegal deadly weapon could have easily been avoided.
Carrying a firearm is for self-defense when outside your home, not looking for trouble and then using that firearm.