Kremlin says Russia is open to dialogue with Trump on Ukraine
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The EU can’t do anything. They are dependent on Russia for energy, thanks to xiden lifting the pipeline sanctions
You see, without America in NATO Russia will
- Step.one: nuclear attack against British and French nuclear bases, elimination of their last pair of SSBNs in the sea (if possible).
- Step two: demand of unconditional surrender of the whole "European NATO". if refused,
- Step three: surgical nuclear attacks against most important military targets and transport nodes. If Russian generous peace term not just refused, but survived SSBN retaliate,
- Step four: virtually total nuclear annihilation of Europe.
Agreed...
EU can put themselves in a nice position at the end of this...
Severely weakened Russia, Trump embarrassed US standing in the world...
NATO stronger, US will come back when Trump is gone...
The GOP rank and file know what keeps peace and how US wins using things like USAID... GOP have been big backers of USAID for Decades, they have used as a way of yield influence in regions...
kyzr
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1. If the EU increases military spending, as Trump recommends, they will be in a much stronger position.
2. Trump embarrassed no one, except maybe the deadbeat NATO countries not meeting their commitments.
3. The GOP knows what keeps the peace, the US military, duh. USAID was a slush fund full of "waste, fraud, and abuse", but now it is under State, so the US can leverage foreign aid for influence.
You know all these countries have Nuclear Subs and in UK that is where nearly all of them are?
They have monitoring stations that can see warheads coming at them, Nuclear war is mutual destruction
Between UK and France they have 400 Active Nukes... How is Russia going to find them under the sea?
UK and France have about ten times needed to destroy Russia....
You really don't get Nuclear War...
Yep that would happen but it will be to defend Ukraine... If they are going to spend the money it will be for what they want.
Also, EU will set up there own Arm Industry, they will be keeping it in house.
Trump would take US from being the leader in the room to a bystander...
It would be temporary.
Petrodollar would be under severe pressure... This will cause havoc to US financial prestige and credit rating.
Yet to show actual, real evidence of USAID waste and fraud...
What will cause waste and fraud is getting rid of the thousands who were monitoring how that money and goods were spent...
It took decades to get trusted partners and make sure the resources were going to the right places... Good Luck at building that back again, USAID was the leader of that in places like Africa..
Get with the times...
Ukraine stops transit of Russian gas to EU in end of era
The EU says most states will not be affected but other European countries, including Moldova, are facing shortages.
www.bbc.com
They have cut off 94% of imports and are finishing the rest...
You haven't been paying attention
Haha geez it took til yesterday for Ukraine to do that? Not surprised now that xiden is out of office, they were able to get that doneGet with the times...
Ukraine stops transit of Russian gas to EU in end of era
The EU says most states will not be affected but other European countries, including Moldova, are facing shortages.
They have cut off 94% of imports and are finishing the rest...
You haven't been paying attention
Another win
kyzr
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It takes years to develop an in-house "military industrial complex", so just buy US stuff.
Cheap oil helps the US economy.
At USAID, Waste and Abuse Runs Deep
For decades, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the
www.whitehouse.gov
For decades, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the ridiculous — and, in many cases, malicious — pet projects of entrenched bureaucrats, with next-to-no oversight.
Here are only a few examples of the WASTE and ABUSE:
- $1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
- $70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
- $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
- $47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
- $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
- $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
- $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
- Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
- Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
- “Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
- Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
- Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban
Mac1958
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I don't know what it will take for America to regain its standing in the world, if ever, but it will definitely take at least two or three full presidential cycles that prove this isn't who we are.
I'm definitely not making any predictions about when, or if, that ever happens.
Yes. And this is exactly why, in the case of the open war, our first counter-force strike (after which, may be, both France and England has one SSBN survived each, may be not) is much more safe than "uncontrollable escalation" during which France and England attack Russian cities first, without attempt to protect their own population and without giving the time to protect Russian population.
One SSBN's salvo won't be able to owerwhelm Moscow's ABD. Salvo of two SSBNs is a gambling, but if Moscow civilian defence is ready and population is partly evacuated - the losses and destructions will be definitely acceptable (may be even lesser than we already had in SMO). More of this, in the case of our surgical, almost without collateral damage, nuclear strike exclusive against few British and French military based, it will be much easier to coerce them into Russia-prefered, mutually acceptable peace.
But, from the other hand, if we ignore possible nuclear threat, and France and England are determined to commit mass-suicide, the coordinated salvo of six SSBNs, will be able to destroy not only Moscow, but even many other cities with terrible, but still acceptable losses (twenty million killed top).
So, if they start the war, we have the simple choice - if we attack them first, we might lose Smolensk and Voronezh (with thousands of victims), but not Moscow. If they attack first - we'll lost Moscow, Saint-Petersbourg and millions of victims.
SSBN needs fifteen minutes for the preparation to launch and neither British, nor French submarines never launched all their missiles in one salvo, and they nether launched missiles from the piers.
And the Russian missiles are much faster than that, especially if we launch, say, Kinjal hypersonic missiles from Kaliningrad region or attack from the sea.
It won't be mutual destruction anyway. And it won't be necessarily destruction of England and France if they recall the stop-word "Unconditional surrender".
Garmonia system, other ways.
No. First of all, even 400 nukes isn't enough to destroy Russia. Second - doesn't matter how many nukes they have in peace time. What is really matters is how many nukes will survive first Russian counter-force strike, how good is Russian ABD and civil-defence.
Nuclear war (especially with English and French speaking adversaries) is kinda my military speciality.
Dante
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Once the old man is free from his handlers (Biden 2.0), Trump will eventually cave.
He wants his deal
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And even my Christian friends usually agree, that the lack of faith may be better than a wrong faith.
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Not only that, but Russia will never be on it's back while in possession of the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. Ukraine is going to keep messing around and find out if not careful.
The situation is critical, so there needs to be a deal, but Zelinsky blew it because he wants to defeat Russia by agreeing to the deal with that as being a part of it, otherwise with the help of the United States joined in a deal along with it's NATO allies, he feels he could defeat Russia in that way, but Ukraine has always been a nightmare when it comes to walking the fine lines in respect to Russias borders and national security in the region.
The idea that a new idependent country (Ukraine) formed during the Soviet break up at the time (in which had allowed Ukraine to become an independent nation with certain rules or boundary lines set), would in it's future as a new formed independent country (eventually turn on Russia), and then begin entertaining the thought that the west would be more interesting, enticing, and influential to the point that it was thinking about joining NATO, and then possibly becoming a liability in the eyes of Russia on the Russian borderline is an amazing thing to see go on so far.
And now here we all are.
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Trump can say nothing that binds Ukraine.
Trump embarrassed all of America last Thursday.
Trump embarrassed all of America last Thursday.
Mack The Finger
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The fact that Donald Trump was a Soviet spy that went by the name “URAHACK” has been spreading online since February, after a former KGB agent claimed on facebook that Trump was recruited by them in 1987. The LIBs satanic machine jumped on it without a shed of truth and made it real.
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Delldude
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How is that Johnny?
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
You believe that Joe Biden is a criminal on less evidence than the rest of the world has seen on Donald Trump being a Soviet spy and yet you never questioned that Trump’s claim that Biden is a criminal, or even asked for evidence.
Love the reference to the Libs satanic machine. Nothing makes you seem saner or more reasonable than the phrase “Libs satanic machine”.
Do you talk like this in the real world and do people look at you strangely when you do?
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