Know More Than The Experts? Return To Work and Willingly Accept Your Fate

[blackhawk]

I have been working 40 hours a week every week since all this began.

 

[sparky]

Know More Than The Experts?

never claimed to

Return To Work and Willing Accept Your Fate

as to opposed to starving , there's not much choice

unless you've some magic bailout, because 'da GubMit' doesn't

and quite frankly , we (small biz) would like to tell them where they can stuff their hush $$$ about now

~S~

 

[Nostra]

I have been working 40 hours a week every week since all this began.

Apparently, you are more important to the survival of the country than Nazi Pelousy is.

 

[blackhawk]

I have been working 40 hours a week every week since all this began.

Apparently, you are more important to the survival of the country than Nazi Pelousy is.

Our trash collector is more important to the survival of the country than she is.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

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Know More Than The Experts? Return To Work and Willingly Accept Your Fate

Among the U.S. public, the COVID-19 pandemic has boiled down to just two major schools of thought. One, that we all should follow the instructions as they are released by the scientific and medical communities, and two, that everyday life should go unchanged and believe the COVID-19 pandemic is no worse than an average cold and flu season.

Unfortunately, COVID-19 has proven itself much more deadly than the “flu” normally experienced each year. Its symptoms can vary from patient to patient, it can affect each age group differently, and the disease can kill in several different ways.

There is no doubt the “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies imposed by local and state governments have reduced the spread and thus the fatalities caused by COVID-19. It is the same with the forced closures of nonessential businesses. Even the impeached president trump reversed his stance concerning Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s reopening the state’s economy.

Certain businesses and their employees are essential to keep the nation functioning even at the reduced economic level currently being experienced. Sadly, the employees are unable to shelter-in-place and must do their best to maintain social distancing in their workplace environment. Most must work without PPE to prevent their contracting COVID-19.

Past administrations had experts run simulations to predict the effects and enable planning to provide the actions, personnel, and supplies necessary to minimize the spread of a newly discovered disease. But, despite the bragging by the impeached president trump about his “greatness”, it has been his ongoing, gross mismanagement of these programs, well established by past administrations, that brought the nation to the disastrous point we are now. And, thanks to the impeached president trump’s unbelievable stupidity, the situation is going to get much, much worse.

The impeached president trump is no different than other right-wingers. As with all issues, the impeached president trump, like the vast majority of conservatives, believe their knowledge far exceeds that of individuals formally educated in diseases and pandemics.

In addition to COVID-19, the conservatives’ self-proclaimed (but constantly disproven) “superior” knowledge in all subjects, includes constitutional law. The right-wingers’ reinterpretation of the U.S. Constitution consistently places their rights above those of all other Americans. These same conservatives will assure anyone who will listen there is a clause in the Constitution, which protects their right to endanger the health, safety, and well-being of others by ignoring legally imposed governmental orders designed to protect everyone. And this is just one example, of many, when right-wingers believe the U.S. Constitution guarantees their “rights” supersede the rights of all other citizens.

No reasonable person is surprised by the conservatives’ armed demonstrations against “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies. Especially with the impeached president trump’s well documented history of encouraging his devoted fanatics to commit acts of violence.

With conservatives also agonizing over the rights of workers classified as “nonessential personnel”, whose jobs do nothing to contribute to the survival of society, some middle ground must be reached to prevent an armed uprising by the impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics.

The impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics have shown their supreme confidence in their leader’s assurances the COVID-19 pandemic presents no danger to them worse than a common cold. Therefore, conservatives’ demands that nonessential personnel be permitted to return to work for nonessential businesses, must be granted. This is especially true, when the nonessential businesses do nothing but assure the profits of the billionaire class go uninterrupted. Employees loyal to the billionaire class must be permitted to return to work, regardless of the potential for their deaths from COVID-19.

History provides many examples of the conservatives’ endless fight against their own best interests. Conservatives carrying firearms at demonstrations to threaten leaders who issued orders to protect public health shows how right-wingers are hellbent on contracting COVID-19. With their determination being so powerful, they should be permitted to win in this fight against their own best interests as they have so many others.



It’s always gratifying to see how much conservatives hate the truth. As seen on these message boards, reasonable people have come to expect this. Just as reasonable people expect the constant conservative denial of reality seen here day in and day out. (The COVID-19 pandemic has really proven this.)

So, keep your mindless, right wing criticisms coming. By doing so, you consistently reaffirm these facts about yourselves. You can do nothing else, which makes it useless to respond to your conservative nonsense.

Donald Trump's four-step plan to reopen the US economy – and why it will be lethal | Robert Reich


1) We did follow instructions. We were told the economy would shut down to flatten the curve. We accomplished that. Open the economy.

2) Robert Reichchcchchchchchchchch?
Hahahahahahahahaha.

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[sparky]

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Know More Than The Experts? Return To Work and Willing Accept Your Fate

Among the U.S. public, the COVID-19 pandemic has boiled down to just two major schools of thought. One, that we all should follow the instructions as they are released by the scientific and medical communities, and two, that everyday life should go unchanged and believe the COVID-19 pandemic is no worse than an average cold and flu season.

Unfortunately, COVID-19 has proven itself much more deadly than the “flu” normally experienced each year. Its symptoms can vary from patient to patient, it can affect each age group differently, and the disease can kill in several different ways.

There is no doubt the “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies imposed by local and state governments have reduced the spread and thus the fatalities caused by COVID-19. It is the same with the forced closures of nonessential businesses. Even the impeached president trump reversed his stance concerning Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s reopening the state’s economy.

Certain businesses and their employees are essential to keep the nation functioning even at the reduced economic level currently being experienced. Sadly, the employees are unable to shelter-in-place and must do their best to maintain social distancing in their workplace environment. Most must work without PPE to prevent their contracting COVID-19.

Past administrations had experts run simulations to predict the effects and enable planning to provide the actions, personnel, and supplies necessary to minimize the spread of a newly discovered disease. But, despite the bragging by the impeached president trump about his “greatness”, it has been his ongoing, gross mismanagement of these programs, well established by past administrations, that brought the nation to the disastrous point we are now. And, thanks to the impeached president trump’s unbelievable stupidity, the situation is going to get much, much worse.

The impeached president trump is no different than other right-wingers. As with all issues, the impeached president trump, like the vast majority of conservatives, believe their knowledge far exceeds that of individuals formally educated in diseases and pandemics.

In addition to COVID-19, the conservatives’ self-proclaimed (but constantly disproven) “superior” knowledge in all subjects, includes constitutional law. The right-wingers’ reinterpretation of the U.S. Constitution consistently places their rights above those of all other Americans. These same conservatives will assure anyone who will listen there is a clause in the Constitution, which protects their right to endanger the health, safety, and well-being of others by ignoring legally imposed governmental orders designed to protect everyone. And this is just one example, of many, when right-wingers believe the U.S. Constitution guarantees their “rights” supersede the rights of all other citizens.

No reasonable person is surprised by the conservatives’ armed demonstrations against “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies. Especially with the impeached president trump’s well documented history of encouraging his devoted fanatics to commit acts of violence.

With conservatives also agonizing over the rights of workers classified as “nonessential personnel”, whose jobs do nothing to contribute to the survival of society, some middle ground must be reached to prevent an armed uprising by the impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics.

The impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics have shown their supreme confidence in their leader’s assurances the COVID-19 pandemic presents no danger to them worse than a common cold. Therefore, conservatives’ demands that nonessential personnel be permitted to return to work for nonessential businesses, must be granted. This is especially true, when the nonessential businesses do nothing but assure the profits of the billionaire class go uninterrupted. Employees loyal to the billionaire class must be permitted to return to work, regardless of the potential for their deaths from COVID-19.

History provides many examples of the conservatives’ endless fight against their own best interests. Conservatives carrying firearms at demonstrations to threaten leaders who issued orders to protect public health shows how right-wingers are hellbent on contracting COVID-19. With their determination being so powerful, they should be permitted to win in this fight against their own best interests as they have so many others.



It’s always gratifying to see how much conservatives hate the truth. As seen on these message boards, reasonable people have come to expect this. Just as reasonable people expect the constant conservative denial of reality seen here day in and day out. (The COVID-19 pandemic has really proven this.)

So, keep your mindless, right wing criticisms coming. By doing so, you consistently reaffirm these facts about yourselves. You can do nothing else, which makes it useless to respond to your conservative nonsense.

Donald Trump's four-step plan to reopen the US economy – and why it will be lethal | Robert Reich




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[MarathonMike]

Indeed, the "this is just a normal virus crowd" are wallowing in complete and utter self indulgent ignorance.


The final death morality rate of the Spanish Flu rate was 2.5%.

Right now the global mortality rate of those infected this virus in the USA is 5.79%

In some countries higher such as Italy 13.8%, France 14.47% and the UK with 15.8%!

It is a higher death rate per population than those who died in World War Two, which was 3%.

https://www.cebm.net/c…/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

Just in the initial wave.

Now normally I have a lot of tolerance for the ignorant, but in this case they can cause a greater rate of infection, death and social destruction.

With a virus the ignorant can kill.

There is no comparison between the Spanish Flu and China Virus. Spanish Flu killed tens of millions, killed the healthiest people and killed with 24 hours of first symptoms. Go back and review your history. Fail.

 

[Polishprince]

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Know More Than The Experts? Return To Work and Willing Accept Your Fate

Among the U.S. public, the COVID-19 pandemic has boiled down to just two major schools of thought. One, that we all should follow the instructions as they are released by the scientific and medical communities, and two, that everyday life should go unchanged and believe the COVID-19 pandemic is no worse than an average cold and flu season.

Unfortunately, COVID-19 has proven itself much more deadly than the “flu” normally experienced each year. Its symptoms can vary from patient to patient, it can affect each age group differently, and the disease can kill in several different ways.

There is no doubt the “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies imposed by local and state governments have reduced the spread and thus the fatalities caused by COVID-19. It is the same with the forced closures of nonessential businesses. Even the impeached president trump reversed his stance concerning Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s reopening the state’s economy.

Certain businesses and their employees are essential to keep the nation functioning even at the reduced economic level currently being experienced. Sadly, the employees are unable to shelter-in-place and must do their best to maintain social distancing in their workplace environment. Most must work without PPE to prevent their contracting COVID-19.

Past administrations had experts run simulations to predict the effects and enable planning to provide the actions, personnel, and supplies necessary to minimize the spread of a newly discovered disease. But, despite the bragging by the impeached president trump about his “greatness”, it has been his ongoing, gross mismanagement of these programs, well established by past administrations, that brought the nation to the disastrous point we are now. And, thanks to the impeached president trump’s unbelievable stupidity, the situation is going to get much, much worse.

The impeached president trump is no different than other right-wingers. As with all issues, the impeached president trump, like the vast majority of conservatives, believe their knowledge far exceeds that of individuals formally educated in diseases and pandemics.

In addition to COVID-19, the conservatives’ self-proclaimed (but constantly disproven) “superior” knowledge in all subjects, includes constitutional law. The right-wingers’ reinterpretation of the U.S. Constitution consistently places their rights above those of all other Americans. These same conservatives will assure anyone who will listen there is a clause in the Constitution, which protects their right to endanger the health, safety, and well-being of others by ignoring legally imposed governmental orders designed to protect everyone. And this is just one example, of many, when right-wingers believe the U.S. Constitution guarantees their “rights” supersede the rights of all other citizens.

No reasonable person is surprised by the conservatives’ armed demonstrations against “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies. Especially with the impeached president trump’s well documented history of encouraging his devoted fanatics to commit acts of violence.

With conservatives also agonizing over the rights of workers classified as “nonessential personnel”, whose jobs do nothing to contribute to the survival of society, some middle ground must be reached to prevent an armed uprising by the impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics.

The impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics have shown their supreme confidence in their leader’s assurances the COVID-19 pandemic presents no danger to them worse than a common cold. Therefore, conservatives’ demands that nonessential personnel be permitted to return to work for nonessential businesses, must be granted. This is especially true, when the nonessential businesses do nothing but assure the profits of the billionaire class go uninterrupted. Employees loyal to the billionaire class must be permitted to return to work, regardless of the potential for their deaths from COVID-19.

History provides many examples of the conservatives’ endless fight against their own best interests. Conservatives carrying firearms at demonstrations to threaten leaders who issued orders to protect public health shows how right-wingers are hellbent on contracting COVID-19. With their determination being so powerful, they should be permitted to win in this fight against their own best interests as they have so many others.



It’s always gratifying to see how much conservatives hate the truth. As seen on these message boards, reasonable people have come to expect this. Just as reasonable people expect the constant conservative denial of reality seen here day in and day out. (The COVID-19 pandemic has really proven this.)

So, keep your mindless, right wing criticisms coming. By doing so, you consistently reaffirm these facts about yourselves. You can do nothing else, which makes it useless to respond to your conservative nonsense.

Donald Trump's four-step plan to reopen the US economy – and why it will be lethal | Robert Reich




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If I saw dead people , I'd be a lot more impressed. But only one death in all of Mercer County is attributed to this, and the coroner, Mr. Libonati knows nothing about it. Sounds like COVID 19 deaths are being overstated. Of course, the people here generally followed the President's suggestions to wash our hands after using the can, so maybe that's it?

Or maybe it is because the Hicks of Mercer County never got out much into the wider world in the first place?

No tourists wanting to go there which is how the initial wave spread.

But not to worry, if one researches how pandemics work, sooner or later if America cannot figure out sane containment measures the virus will come to you.

Mercer County isn't "hick town" at all. Major colleges including world renown Grove City College , huge shopping venue at the Prime Outlets which attracts people from New York and even Canada, who seek to avoid those jurisdictions lecherous taxation on clothing.

 

[BlueGin]

I never stopped working. And I have been out 3/4 times a week ( or more) since this pandemic began...running errands for shut ins, buying essentials etc...I’m not that worried.

I’ll just let the leftist pantywaists continue hiding under their beds in fear.

 

[bripat9643]

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Know More Than The Experts? Return To Work and Willingly Accept Your Fate

Among the U.S. public, the COVID-19 pandemic has boiled down to just two major schools of thought. One, that we all should follow the instructions as they are released by the scientific and medical communities, and two, that everyday life should go unchanged and believe the COVID-19 pandemic is no worse than an average cold and flu season.

Unfortunately, COVID-19 has proven itself much more deadly than the “flu” normally experienced each year. Its symptoms can vary from patient to patient, it can affect each age group differently, and the disease can kill in several different ways.

There is no doubt the “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies imposed by local and state governments have reduced the spread and thus the fatalities caused by COVID-19. It is the same with the forced closures of nonessential businesses. Even the impeached president trump reversed his stance concerning Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s reopening the state’s economy.

Certain businesses and their employees are essential to keep the nation functioning even at the reduced economic level currently being experienced. Sadly, the employees are unable to shelter-in-place and must do their best to maintain social distancing in their workplace environment. Most must work without PPE to prevent their contracting COVID-19.

Past administrations had experts run simulations to predict the effects and enable planning to provide the actions, personnel, and supplies necessary to minimize the spread of a newly discovered disease. But, despite the bragging by the impeached president trump about his “greatness”, it has been his ongoing, gross mismanagement of these programs, well established by past administrations, that brought the nation to the disastrous point we are now. And, thanks to the impeached president trump’s unbelievable stupidity, the situation is going to get much, much worse.

The impeached president trump is no different than other right-wingers. As with all issues, the impeached president trump, like the vast majority of conservatives, believe their knowledge far exceeds that of individuals formally educated in diseases and pandemics.

In addition to COVID-19, the conservatives’ self-proclaimed (but constantly disproven) “superior” knowledge in all subjects, includes constitutional law. The right-wingers’ reinterpretation of the U.S. Constitution consistently places their rights above those of all other Americans. These same conservatives will assure anyone who will listen there is a clause in the Constitution, which protects their right to endanger the health, safety, and well-being of others by ignoring legally imposed governmental orders designed to protect everyone. And this is just one example, of many, when right-wingers believe the U.S. Constitution guarantees their “rights” supersede the rights of all other citizens.

No reasonable person is surprised by the conservatives’ armed demonstrations against “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies. Especially with the impeached president trump’s well documented history of encouraging his devoted fanatics to commit acts of violence.

With conservatives also agonizing over the rights of workers classified as “nonessential personnel”, whose jobs do nothing to contribute to the survival of society, some middle ground must be reached to prevent an armed uprising by the impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics.

The impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics have shown their supreme confidence in their leader’s assurances the COVID-19 pandemic presents no danger to them worse than a common cold. Therefore, conservatives’ demands that nonessential personnel be permitted to return to work for nonessential businesses, must be granted. This is especially true, when the nonessential businesses do nothing but assure the profits of the billionaire class go uninterrupted. Employees loyal to the billionaire class must be permitted to return to work, regardless of the potential for their deaths from COVID-19.

History provides many examples of the conservatives’ endless fight against their own best interests. Conservatives carrying firearms at demonstrations to threaten leaders who issued orders to protect public health shows how right-wingers are hellbent on contracting COVID-19. With their determination being so powerful, they should be permitted to win in this fight against their own best interests as they have so many others.



It’s always gratifying to see how much conservatives hate the truth. As seen on these message boards, reasonable people have come to expect this. Just as reasonable people expect the constant conservative denial of reality seen here day in and day out. (The COVID-19 pandemic has really proven this.)

So, keep your mindless, right wing criticisms coming. By doing so, you consistently reaffirm these facts about yourselves. You can do nothing else, which makes it useless to respond to your conservative nonsense.

Donald Trump's four-step plan to reopen the US economy – and why it will be lethal | Robert Reich




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"Unfortunately, COVID-19 has proven itself much more deadly than the “flu” normally experienced each year. Its symptoms can vary from patient to patient, it can affect each age group differently, and the disease can kill in several different ways."

No it hasn't, dumbass. The death figures are wildly inflated, and the number infected is wildly understated. COVID-19 is no more deadly that a typical flu - about 0.1 to 0.3 %.

"There is no doubt the “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies imposed by local and state governments have reduced the spread and thus the fatalities caused by COVID-19. It is the same with the forced closures of nonessential businesses. Even the impeached president trump reversed his stance concerning Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s reopening the state’s economy."

There is every doubt about that. The mortality rate in countries that aren't practicing shelter in place is no higher than the countries that are practicing it.

Your post made numerous other easly disproved claims, but I don't have time to waste disproving 1000 falsehoods. This sampling should be sufficient to prove that you're a douchebag spreading hysteria and should be ignored.

 

[bripat9643]

Indeed, the "this is just a normal virus crowd" are wallowing in complete and utter self indulgent ignorance.


The final death morality rate of the Spanish Flu rate was 2.5%.

Right now the global mortality rate of those infected this virus in the USA is 5.79%

In some countries higher such as Italy 13.8%, France 14.47% and the UK with 15.8%!

It is a higher death rate per population than those who died in World War Two, which was 3%.

https://www.cebm.net/c…/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

Just in the initial wave.

Now normally I have a lot of tolerance for the ignorant, but in this case they can cause a greater rate of infection, death and social destruction.

With a virus the ignorant can kill.

The mortality rates you claim are propaganda. They are lies. The real mortality rate is 0.1% to 0.3%

 

[2aguy]

Hide under your bed until the "experts" change their mind again.

The experts LOVE this Lock Down. It gives them power over the ordinary people's movements that they never had previously. After this Corona Panic subsides, and it will BTW, expect more Mass Quarantines to be imposed in the future. Petty Tyrants like Mr. Reich are in their glory.

If I was going to invest in a business nowadays, I'd look to open up a Speak Easy. Good until the end of this panic, but something that can be quickly reopened for future panics.

Absolutely, they were unknowns and now they are relishing the limelight and power they are bathed in. They don't give two hoots for the pain and destruction of jobs, businesses, proud people having to line up at food banks.

Dems want the economy shut down long enough so that it can't recover before the election in Nov, otherwise they can't win. So what if people suffer financial ruin they don't give a shit and never have.

People suffering financial ruin is one of the side goals......poor, frightened people are the prime recruiting ground for the democrat party.......

 

[Nostra]

Indeed, the "this is just a normal virus crowd" are wallowing in complete and utter self indulgent ignorance.


The final death morality rate of the Spanish Flu rate was 2.5%.

Right now the global mortality rate of those infected this virus in the USA is 5.79%

In some countries higher such as Italy 13.8%, France 14.47% and the UK with 15.8%!

It is a higher death rate per population than those who died in World War Two, which was 3%.

https://www.cebm.net/c…/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

Just in the initial wave.

Now normally I have a lot of tolerance for the ignorant, but in this case they can cause a greater rate of infection, death and social destruction.

With a virus the ignorant can kill.

The mortality rates you claim are propaganda. They are lies. The real mortality rate is 0.1% to 0.3%

Especially since the CDC was forced to reduce the number of Chinese Virus deaths to 37K.

 

[2aguy]

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Know More Than The Experts? Return To Work and Willingly Accept Your Fate

Among the U.S. public, the COVID-19 pandemic has boiled down to just two major schools of thought. One, that we all should follow the instructions as they are released by the scientific and medical communities, and two, that everyday life should go unchanged and believe the COVID-19 pandemic is no worse than an average cold and flu season.

Unfortunately, COVID-19 has proven itself much more deadly than the “flu” normally experienced each year. Its symptoms can vary from patient to patient, it can affect each age group differently, and the disease can kill in several different ways.

There is no doubt the “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies imposed by local and state governments have reduced the spread and thus the fatalities caused by COVID-19. It is the same with the forced closures of nonessential businesses. Even the impeached president trump reversed his stance concerning Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s reopening the state’s economy.

Certain businesses and their employees are essential to keep the nation functioning even at the reduced economic level currently being experienced. Sadly, the employees are unable to shelter-in-place and must do their best to maintain social distancing in their workplace environment. Most must work without PPE to prevent their contracting COVID-19.

Past administrations had experts run simulations to predict the effects and enable planning to provide the actions, personnel, and supplies necessary to minimize the spread of a newly discovered disease. But, despite the bragging by the impeached president trump about his “greatness”, it has been his ongoing, gross mismanagement of these programs, well established by past administrations, that brought the nation to the disastrous point we are now. And, thanks to the impeached president trump’s unbelievable stupidity, the situation is going to get much, much worse.

The impeached president trump is no different than other right-wingers. As with all issues, the impeached president trump, like the vast majority of conservatives, believe their knowledge far exceeds that of individuals formally educated in diseases and pandemics.

In addition to COVID-19, the conservatives’ self-proclaimed (but constantly disproven) “superior” knowledge in all subjects, includes constitutional law. The right-wingers’ reinterpretation of the U.S. Constitution consistently places their rights above those of all other Americans. These same conservatives will assure anyone who will listen there is a clause in the Constitution, which protects their right to endanger the health, safety, and well-being of others by ignoring legally imposed governmental orders designed to protect everyone. And this is just one example, of many, when right-wingers believe the U.S. Constitution guarantees their “rights” supersede the rights of all other citizens.

No reasonable person is surprised by the conservatives’ armed demonstrations against “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies. Especially with the impeached president trump’s well documented history of encouraging his devoted fanatics to commit acts of violence.

With conservatives also agonizing over the rights of workers classified as “nonessential personnel”, whose jobs do nothing to contribute to the survival of society, some middle ground must be reached to prevent an armed uprising by the impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics.

The impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics have shown their supreme confidence in their leader’s assurances the COVID-19 pandemic presents no danger to them worse than a common cold. Therefore, conservatives’ demands that nonessential personnel be permitted to return to work for nonessential businesses, must be granted. This is especially true, when the nonessential businesses do nothing but assure the profits of the billionaire class go uninterrupted. Employees loyal to the billionaire class must be permitted to return to work, regardless of the potential for their deaths from COVID-19.

History provides many examples of the conservatives’ endless fight against their own best interests. Conservatives carrying firearms at demonstrations to threaten leaders who issued orders to protect public health shows how right-wingers are hellbent on contracting COVID-19. With their determination being so powerful, they should be permitted to win in this fight against their own best interests as they have so many others.



It’s always gratifying to see how much conservatives hate the truth. As seen on these message boards, reasonable people have come to expect this. Just as reasonable people expect the constant conservative denial of reality seen here day in and day out. (The COVID-19 pandemic has really proven this.)

So, keep your mindless, right wing criticisms coming. By doing so, you consistently reaffirm these facts about yourselves. You can do nothing else, which makes it useless to respond to your conservative nonsense.

Donald Trump's four-step plan to reopen the US economy – and why it will be lethal | Robert Reich




.

"Unfortunately, COVID-19 has proven itself much more deadly than the “flu” normally experienced each year. Its symptoms can vary from patient to patient, it can affect each age group differently, and the disease can kill in several different ways."

No it hasn't, dumbass. The death figures are wildly inflated, and the number infected is wildly understated. COVID-19 is no more deadly that a typical flu - about 0.1 to 0.3 %.

"There is no doubt the “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies imposed by local and state governments have reduced the spread and thus the fatalities caused by COVID-19. It is the same with the forced closures of nonessential businesses. Even the impeached president trump reversed his stance concerning Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s reopening the state’s economy."

There is every doubt about that. The mortality rate in countries that aren't practicing shelter in place is no higher than the countries that are practicing it.

Your post made numerous other easly disproved claims, but I don't have time to waste disproving 1000 falsehoods. This sampling should be sufficient to prove that you're a douchebag spreading hysteria and should be ignored.

Thank you......

 

[Likkmee]

It isn't my guys and I that aren't willing to work. The clients we work for don't HAVE any work. No work=no money most anywhere. Restaurants are kinda sorta staying afloat. Enough to give the kids a lil money and attempt to pay electric. If they can't pay there is another 3 months of no-cut rule in effect so they/we don't have to pay.....but......Still owed little by little AFTER Cing Korona "disappears". Word is that 20% of the unpaid balance per month added to the regular. Deadly.My living area is off grid but running the machinery would be a couple hundred a month so I can't really accept any jobs under 1000 bux or snce the compressors crank and the welders/grinders/saws are lit up it comes on quick.

 

[Polishprince]

Indeed, the "this is just a normal virus crowd" are wallowing in complete and utter self indulgent ignorance.


The final death morality rate of the Spanish Flu rate was 2.5%.

Right now the global mortality rate of those infected this virus in the USA is 5.79%

In some countries higher such as Italy 13.8%, France 14.47% and the UK with 15.8%!

It is a higher death rate per population than those who died in World War Two, which was 3%.

https://www.cebm.net/c…/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

Just in the initial wave.

Now normally I have a lot of tolerance for the ignorant, but in this case they can cause a greater rate of infection, death and social destruction.

With a virus the ignorant can kill.

The mortality rates you claim are propaganda. They are lies. The real mortality rate is 0.1% to 0.3%

The mortality rates might even be less than that. There is no way to really be certain of it now, although anti-body tests should be able to give a pretty good estimate of it.

Most COVID sufferers didn't know that they had it, many of the rest weren't sick enough to consult a doctor, or if they did consult a physician, were given supportive care only and got over it. A relative few got tested.

 

[bripat9643]

It isn't my guys and I that aren't willing to work. The clients we work for don't HAVE any work. No work=no money most anywhere. Restaurants are kinda sorta staying afloat. Enough to give the kids a lil money and attempt to pay electric. If they can't pay there is another 3 months of no-cut rule in effect so they/we don't have to pay.....but......Still owed little by little AFTER Cing Korona "disappears". Word is that 20% of the unpaid balance per month added to the regular. Deadly.My living area is off grid but running the machinery would be a couple hundred a month so I can't really accept any jobs under 1000 bux or snce the compressors crank and the welders/grinders/saws are lit up it comes on quick.

Not really. I have some friends who ran a Mexican restaurant. They shut it down until the whole "shelter in place" thing is over. a dozen employees now have no income. I paid their son to mow my yard so they could have a little income. The came over within an hour after my wife asked if they could do it. The authorities said they could continue to stay open, but only if the limited their business to 25% of the customers they previously had.

Anyone who votes Democrat after this disaster is a fool.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

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Know More Than The Experts? Return To Work and Willingly Accept Your Fate

Among the U.S. public, the COVID-19 pandemic has boiled down to just two major schools of thought. One, that we all should follow the instructions as they are released by the scientific and medical communities, and two, that everyday life should go unchanged and believe the COVID-19 pandemic is no worse than an average cold and flu season.

Unfortunately, COVID-19 has proven itself much more deadly than the “flu” normally experienced each year. Its symptoms can vary from patient to patient, it can affect each age group differently, and the disease can kill in several different ways.

There is no doubt the “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies imposed by local and state governments have reduced the spread and thus the fatalities caused by COVID-19. It is the same with the forced closures of nonessential businesses. Even the impeached president trump reversed his stance concerning Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s reopening the state’s economy.

Certain businesses and their employees are essential to keep the nation functioning even at the reduced economic level currently being experienced. Sadly, the employees are unable to shelter-in-place and must do their best to maintain social distancing in their workplace environment. Most must work without PPE to prevent their contracting COVID-19.

Past administrations had experts run simulations to predict the effects and enable planning to provide the actions, personnel, and supplies necessary to minimize the spread of a newly discovered disease. But, despite the bragging by the impeached president trump about his “greatness”, it has been his ongoing, gross mismanagement of these programs, well established by past administrations, that brought the nation to the disastrous point we are now. And, thanks to the impeached president trump’s unbelievable stupidity, the situation is going to get much, much worse.

The impeached president trump is no different than other right-wingers. As with all issues, the impeached president trump, like the vast majority of conservatives, believe their knowledge far exceeds that of individuals formally educated in diseases and pandemics.

In addition to COVID-19, the conservatives’ self-proclaimed (but constantly disproven) “superior” knowledge in all subjects, includes constitutional law. The right-wingers’ reinterpretation of the U.S. Constitution consistently places their rights above those of all other Americans. These same conservatives will assure anyone who will listen there is a clause in the Constitution, which protects their right to endanger the health, safety, and well-being of others by ignoring legally imposed governmental orders designed to protect everyone. And this is just one example, of many, when right-wingers believe the U.S. Constitution guarantees their “rights” supersede the rights of all other citizens.

No reasonable person is surprised by the conservatives’ armed demonstrations against “shelter-in-place” and “social distancing” policies. Especially with the impeached president trump’s well documented history of encouraging his devoted fanatics to commit acts of violence.

With conservatives also agonizing over the rights of workers classified as “nonessential personnel”, whose jobs do nothing to contribute to the survival of society, some middle ground must be reached to prevent an armed uprising by the impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics.

The impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics have shown their supreme confidence in their leader’s assurances the COVID-19 pandemic presents no danger to them worse than a common cold. Therefore, conservatives’ demands that nonessential personnel be permitted to return to work for nonessential businesses, must be granted. This is especially true, when the nonessential businesses do nothing but assure the profits of the billionaire class go uninterrupted. Employees loyal to the billionaire class must be permitted to return to work, regardless of the potential for their deaths from COVID-19.

History provides many examples of the conservatives’ endless fight against their own best interests. Conservatives carrying firearms at demonstrations to threaten leaders who issued orders to protect public health shows how right-wingers are hellbent on contracting COVID-19. With their determination being so powerful, they should be permitted to win in this fight against their own best interests as they have so many others.



It’s always gratifying to see how much conservatives hate the truth. As seen on these message boards, reasonable people have come to expect this. Just as reasonable people expect the constant conservative denial of reality seen here day in and day out. (The COVID-19 pandemic has really proven this.)

So, keep your mindless, right wing criticisms coming. By doing so, you consistently reaffirm these facts about yourselves. You can do nothing else, which makes it useless to respond to your conservative nonsense.

Donald Trump's four-step plan to reopen the US economy – and why it will be lethal | Robert Reich




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who is more scared of the Wuhan Labratory Flu? You or your husband?

 

[bripat9643]

Indeed, the "this is just a normal virus crowd" are wallowing in complete and utter self indulgent ignorance.


The final death morality rate of the Spanish Flu rate was 2.5%.

Right now the global mortality rate of those infected this virus in the USA is 5.79%

In some countries higher such as Italy 13.8%, France 14.47% and the UK with 15.8%!

It is a higher death rate per population than those who died in World War Two, which was 3%.

https://www.cebm.net/c…/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

Just in the initial wave.

Now normally I have a lot of tolerance for the ignorant, but in this case they can cause a greater rate of infection, death and social destruction.

With a virus the ignorant can kill.

The mortality rates you claim are propaganda. They are lies. The real mortality rate is 0.1% to 0.3%

The mortality rates might even be less than that. There is no way to really be certain of it now, although anti-body tests should be able to give a pretty good estimate of it.

Most COVID sufferers didn't know that they had it, many of the rest weren't sick enough to consult a doctor, or if they did consult a physician, were given supportive care only and got over it. A relative few got tested.

I may have had it, but I couldn't get tested.

 

[Jake Winker Frogen]

Indeed, the "this is just a normal virus crowd" are wallowing in complete and utter self indulgent ignorance.


The final death morality rate of the Spanish Flu rate was 2.5%.

Right now the global mortality rate of those infected this virus in the USA is 5.79%

In some countries higher such as Italy 13.8%, France 14.47% and the UK with 15.8%!

It is a higher death rate per population than those who died in World War Two, which was 3%.

https://www.cebm.net/c…/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

Just in the initial wave.

Now normally I have a lot of tolerance for the ignorant, but in this case they can cause a greater rate of infection, death and social destruction.

With a virus the ignorant can kill.

There is no comparison between the Spanish Flu and China Virus. Spanish Flu killed tens of millions, killed the healthiest people and killed with 24 hours of first symptoms. Go back and review your history. Fail.

I understand the mindset that does not believe anything they do not want to believe, you can be forgiven for that human failing, it is common.

But the data is clear, as above, this virus is killing at a much higher percent per infection than the Spanish flu.

And we are just in the first three months of it.

Now of course the Spanish flu killed more than this virus over all, because this virus has just started and the Spanish Flu went for over a year, without government practising containment measures for the most part.

So sure, if we follow sane and intelligent containment, like Australia, overall this virus will kill fewer people.


That is the entire point.

But at the current infection death rate this virus is clearly more dangerous than the Spanish flu and if you follow the "let me do what ever I want" crowd it will kill more people than the Spanish flu over time.

Let me make the point clear for you, right now we have a death rate globally of about 6% with this virus, the Spanish Flu had 2.5%