Knight Execution - This is Disgusting!

[Meathead]

Are you saying this guy was innocent. There are two arguments against the death penalty: first, that it is not right for the state to kill a human being, second, that innocent people may be put to death. Choose one. They are mutually exclusive.

 

[Politico]

The scumbag was sentenced to death in 1976, killed again and lived to 2014! I can't imagine anyone wanting this person to live.

You seem obsessed with Jacksonville Florida news.

 

[Esmeralda]

I am opposed to the death penalty no matter the crime. This guy had the right to appeal his sentence as many times as he pleased, until the court put a stop to it.

This case is a good example of why to end the death penalty. It is far less costly to just put someone in prison for life without parole than to put them on death row indefinitely while they file appeal after appeal, legal costs the taxpayer incurs. Of course, we need to have prisons convicts cannot escape from.

From the beginning, he should have been put away for life w/o parole in a maximum security prison from which he couldn’t escape. That would have been less costly.

 

[westwall]

For the most part I am against the death penalty. Only in certain extreme cases do I think it is appropriate and in those cases (like in the Green River Killer's case) I agree with BBD, they get an appeal, it is heard and either the sentence is commuted to life in prison, or execution is carried out the day after the failed appeal.

 

[Meathead]

The Chinese have it right.Two appeals to different courts and then a prompt bullet to the head. The convict's family no longer have to pay for the bullet.

 

[bianco]

The Chinese have it right.Two appeals to different courts and then a prompt bullet to the head. The convict's family no longer have to pay for the bullet.

The Chinese have it totally wrong, as usual.
Best not to model oneself on anything communist China does.

 

[bianco]

Are you saying this guy was innocent. There are two arguments against the death penalty: first, that it is not right for the state to kill a human being, second, that innocent people may be put to death. Choose one. They are mutually exclusive.

I'm not saying he was innocent.

I choose both.

 

[Meathead]

Are you saying this guy was innocent. There are two arguments against the death penalty: first, that it is not right for the state to kill a human being, second, that innocent people may be put to death. Choose one. They are mutually exclusive.

I'm not saying he was innocent.

I choose both.

If you think it's wrong for the state to execute, it doesn't matter if they are guilty or not. That precludes the second argument.

 

[Politico]

The Chinese have it right.Two appeals to different courts and then a prompt bullet to the head. The convict's family no longer have to pay for the bullet.

The Chinese have it totally wrong, as usual.
Best not to model oneself on anything communist China does.

Correct. We have more than two courts to appeal to. Appellate, sState, federal and Supreme,. 30 days between each and THEN immediate execution.

 

[Esmeralda]

Correct. We have more than two courts to appeal to. appellate, State, federal and Supreme,. 30 days between each and THEN immediate execution.

Aww! If only you were king. Darn and heck!

 

[Politico]

Yeah damn shame isn't it.

 

[bianco]

The Chinese have it right.Two appeals to different courts and then a prompt bullet to the head. The convict's family no longer have to pay for the bullet.

The Chinese have it totally wrong, as usual.
Best not to model oneself on anything communist China does.

Correct. We have more than two courts to appeal to. Appellate, sState, federal and Supreme,. 30 days between each and THEN immediate execution.

And what about all the govt misconduct?

The Innocence Project - Understand the Causes: Forensic Science Misconduct

Government Misconduct

Some wrongful convictions are caused by honest mistakes. But in far too many cases, the very people who are responsible for ensuring truth and justice — law enforcement officials and prosecutors — lose sight of these obligations and instead focus solely on securing convictions.

The cases of wrongful convictions uncovered by DNA testing are filled with evidence of negligence, fraud or misconduct by prosecutors or police departments.

 

[Meathead]

The Chinese have it totally wrong, as usual.
Best not to model oneself on anything communist China does.

Correct. We have more than two courts to appeal to. Appellate, sState, federal and Supreme,. 30 days between each and THEN immediate execution.

And what about all the govt misconduct?

The Innocence Project - Understand the Causes: Forensic Science Misconduct

Government Misconduct

Some wrongful convictions are caused by honest mistakes. But in far too many cases, the very people who are responsible for ensuring truth and justice — law enforcement officials and prosecutors — lose sight of these obligations and instead focus solely on securing convictions.

The cases of wrongful convictions uncovered by DNA testing are filled with evidence of negligence, fraud or misconduct by prosecutors or police departments.

I think we can rule out innocence in Knight's case. Both his convictions were of the smoking gun variety.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Alas, lukewarm liberalism.

Piteous, that.

If you want to kill him, pay for it yourself and pull the switch yourself.

It costs more to keep him alive.

 

[bianco]

Correct. We have more than two courts to appeal to. Appellate, sState, federal and Supreme,. 30 days between each and THEN immediate execution.

And what about all the govt misconduct?

The Innocence Project - Understand the Causes: Forensic Science Misconduct

Government Misconduct

Some wrongful convictions are caused by honest mistakes. But in far too many cases, the very people who are responsible for ensuring truth and justice — law enforcement officials and prosecutors — lose sight of these obligations and instead focus solely on securing convictions.

The cases of wrongful convictions uncovered by DNA testing are filled with evidence of negligence, fraud or misconduct by prosecutors or police departments.

I think we can rule out innocence in Knight's case. Both his convictions were of the smoking gun variety.

But what about all the others?

The Innocence Project - Understand the Causes: Unreliable/Limited Science

Unreliable or Improper Forensic Science

Meanwhile, forensics techniques that have been properly validated — such as serology, commonly known as blood typing — are sometimes improperly conducted or inaccurately conveyed in trial testimony.
In some cases, forensic analysts have fabricated results or engaged in other misconduct.


The Innocence Project - Know the Cases

The common themes that run through these cases — from global problems like poverty and racial issues to criminal justice issues like eyewitness misidentification, invalid or improper forensic science, overzealous police and prosecutors and inept defense counsel — cannot be ignored and continue to plague our criminal justice system.

•Eighteen people had been sentenced to death before DNA proved their innocence and led to their release.

•The average sentence served by DNA exonerees has been 13.6 years.

•About 70 percent of those exonerated by DNA testing are people of color.

•In almost 50 percent of DNA exoneration cases, the actual perpetrator has been identified by DNA testing.

•Exonerations have been won in 35 states and Washington, D.C.

•The Innocence Project was involved in 172 of the 312 DNA exonerations. Others were helped by Innocence Network organizations, private attorneys and by pro se defendants in a few instances.

 

[Meathead]

And what about all the govt misconduct?

The Innocence Project - Understand the Causes: Forensic Science Misconduct

Government Misconduct

Some wrongful convictions are caused by honest mistakes. But in far too many cases, the very people who are responsible for ensuring truth and justice — law enforcement officials and prosecutors — lose sight of these obligations and instead focus solely on securing convictions.

The cases of wrongful convictions uncovered by DNA testing are filled with evidence of negligence, fraud or misconduct by prosecutors or police departments.

I think we can rule out innocence in Knight's case. Both his convictions were of the smoking gun variety.

But what about all the others?

The Innocence Project - Understand the Causes: Unreliable/Limited Science

Unreliable or Improper Forensic Science

Meanwhile, forensics techniques that have been properly validated — such as serology, commonly known as blood typing — are sometimes improperly conducted or inaccurately conveyed in trial testimony.
In some cases, forensic analysts have fabricated results or engaged in other misconduct.


The Innocence Project - Know the Cases

The common themes that run through these cases — from global problems like poverty and racial issues to criminal justice issues like eyewitness misidentification, invalid or improper forensic science, overzealous police and prosecutors and inept defense counsel — cannot be ignored and continue to plague our criminal justice system.

•Eighteen people had been sentenced to death before DNA proved their innocence and led to their release.

•The average sentence served by DNA exonerees has been 13.6 years.

•About 70 percent of those exonerated by DNA testing are people of color.

•In almost 50 percent of DNA exoneration cases, the actual perpetrator has been identified by DNA testing.

•Exonerations have been won in 35 states and Washington, D.C.

•The Innocence Project was involved in 172 of the 312 DNA exonerations. Others were helped by Innocence Network organizations, private attorneys and by pro se defendants in a few instances.

DNA has helped perfect the system. You are right.