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So will the Trump dead enders accept this if it happens?
Mr. Star spoke after hearing the lies this morning. This afternoon, when this ambassador history told the truth, a lot of people were confused why he didn't stick with his faerie tale that got the Democrats all excited.
Democrats have made huge bums of themselves this time.
Impeachment Hearing Day 4 Transcript - Gordon Sondland Testifies - Rev
Dan Goldman: (
33:41)
So, let me break this down with you. By this time you, and many top officials, knew that that coveted White House meeting for President Zelensky was conditioned on these investigations, right?
Gordon Sondland: (
33:55)
The announcement of the investigations, correct.
Dan Goldman: (
33:56)
Thank you. And that includes Secretary Pompeo right?
Gordon Sondland: (
34:01)
Many, many people.
Dan Goldman: (
34:03)
And well, Secretary Pompeo?
Gordon Sondland: (
34:04)
Yes.
Dan Goldman: (
34:05)
And acting chief of staff Mulvaney.
Gordon Sondland: (
34:06)
Yes.
Dan Goldman: (
34:08)
And you testified that this was a quid pro quo, is that right?
Gordon Sondland: (
34:11)
I did.
Dan Goldman: (
34:12)
And you, at this point by the end of August, knew that the aide had been held up for at least six weeks. Is that correct?
Gordon Sondland: (
34:19)
I believe I found out through Ambassador Taylor that the aid had been held up around July 18th, is when I heard originally.
Dan Goldman: (
34:28)
And even though you searched for reasons, you were never given a credible explanation, is that right?
Gordon Sondland: (
34:34)
That’s right.
Dan Goldman: (
34:35)
And no one you spoke to thought that the aid should be held to your knowledge, is that right?
Gordon Sondland: (
34:41)
I never heard anyone advocate for holding the aid.
Dan Goldman: (
34:45)
And now, by this point, at the end of August it went public and the Ukrainians knew about it. Right?
Gordon Sondland: (
34:51)
I believe there was some press reports, you know, presuming or who knows, but I think at that point it became sort of common knowledge that everything might be tied together.
Dan Goldman: (
35:02)
And in fact, President Zelensky brought it up at that September 1st meeting with Vice President Pence that you were at. Right?
Gordon Sondland: (
35:08)
I don’t know if he brought it up specifically, but asked where the aid was I think was more … I think he sort of asked, again, very vague recollection because I don’t have a readout of the bilateral meeting, but why don’t I have my check, essentially?
Dan Goldman: (
35:25)
And you understood the Ukrainians received no credible explanation, is that right?
Gordon Sondland: (
35:31)
I certainly didn’t, couldn’t give them one.
Dan Goldman: (
35:33)
So, is this kind of a two plus two equals four conclusion that you reached?
Gordon Sondland: (
35:39)
Pretty much.
Dan Goldman: (
35:41)
Is the only logical conclusion to you that, given all of these factors, that the aid was also a part of this quid pro quo?
Gordon Sondland: (
35:48)
Yep.