Kasich commits political suicide

[g5000]

Kasich committed political suicide taking the Medicaid money years ago.

That actually demonstrates how pragmatic Kasich is. The taxpayers of his state were being taxed for ObamaCare's Medicaid expansion whether they took the money or not. So it is retarded not to take the money.

Just as I deeply oppose tax expenditures, I would be an idiot not to take advantage of every single one I can as long as I am being forced to pay higher tax rates because they exist.

The "establishment" candidate is now Rubio, who cannot tell us if he's ok with banning abortions for rape victims, and I'm honestly not sure whether he takes Genesis literally, and he's flip flopped at least once on what his tax plan would be.

He put his business tax plan online a while ago. I am probably the only person on this forum who has actually read it.

It's a good plan.

He's progressive, can't be trusted to keep his word.

Ipse dixit, rabies boi.

 

[paulitician]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

The reality is, they're all Big Government/Open-Borders idiots. They never were real Conservatives. Some of us have been saying that for years. They're Neocon frauds. But most Republicans only ridiculed & insulted those of us pointing that out. It's about time Republicans figure it out. Time to clean house.

 

[Rustic]

The absolutism of the GOP is killing Kasich, not Kasich's views.

There really is nothing wrong with pragmatism, really really.
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Pragmatism means nothing if you can't keep your word.

 

[Brain357]

What's funny is Kasich is only one who was ever involved in balancing the budget. Him not being popular is proof repubs don't really care.

I don't think it's a matter of "caring" for those who believe three trillion in govt receipts is "enough." Rather, it's a reality that it is not enough given the govt a supermajority of Americans want. Do you wish to deal with the reality or dream of returning to the days before FDR and LBJ?

Clinton balanced the budget and it should have stayed balanced. Paying lots of interest is not good. We could have what people want and still be balanced.

I don't think Slick's budget projected surpluses in the years coming up when ALL of the boomers are retired, and before the majority have died off. But, what the budgets would have done is paid down the amount of debt held by foreign govts and private investors. Then, when the boomers retire, we could re-issue new debt, and then pay that down starting after 2025 or so, and begin to prepare for the millennial retirement.

Given the financial meltdown and lower taxes today, and the unreality of any belief that we could actually raise marginal rates of the superwealthy, I'm not sure we can do very much beyond hope we don't bleed to death while cutting the growth of entitlements and raising some revenue from eliminating the tax expenditures that are politically possible to achieve. Possibly we could up the taxes on financial speculators ... as opposed to investors.

Well we need a stronger economy by creating better jobs. That could be done. I would reform corp taxes so there are breaks for hiring in the U.S. and providing good wages and benefits. Corp does those things and they can pay zero taxes. The money will come back in income tax and welfare would shrink.

 

[007]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

This is what the end of one's presidential campaign looks like... ^

 

[Skylar]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

I think your reaction is far more telling about what is wrong with the conservative movement than anything Kasich said. Among the fringe conservatives -who apparently have a significant voice in the republican primaries- not abolishing medicaid and medicare is 'socialist/communist'.

That perception speaks for itself.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

I think it was stand up stuff and I applaud him for doing what he did. I have a lot more respect for him now. The good thing about The Donald, he's making everybody come clean.

 

[Rustic]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Here is a question.

Could you see Kasich being Clinton's VP choice?

Yep.....she needs a ready made scapegoat.

The loopy kunt needs something...

 

[Skylar]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

I think it was stand up stuff and I applaud him for doing what he did. I have a lot more respect for him now. The good thing about The Donald, he's making everybody come clean.

But now that he questions or even thinks too hard about hard right policy....he's a communist.

The fringe right has a binary reasoning scheme. Either you accept ONLY what they believe. Or you're a communist.

So much for the big tent.

 

[bedowin62]

THERE is no plan by Republicans or any Republican candidate, perception or otherwise to "abolish" Medicaid and/or Medicare and simply go with nothing at all

libs are losers who lie to themselves

 

[nat4900]

I still think her best bet for VP is Rep. from Texas Castro.

Fully agree...Castro (I believe its Julian) would wholly mitigate any of the advantage that Latinos such as a Rubio or Cruz offers to the GOP ticket.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I like him to an extent, but he's a RINO..... haven't we had enough of the RINO's?

When you add the Rino's to the Democrats, that is about 70% of the electorate. Why does the minority that call themselves conservative think they should govern when most Americans reject them?

If they get elected, they get to govern... the notion that the majority of people n this country are centrists, or worse, leftists, well, I don't see it. Trump and Carson are saying things that a lot of conservatives are saying, and it is resonating.... big time.

Q. What do you estimate will be the cost to round up 11 (?) million non citizens who have entered our country illegally and or over stayed their legal entry.

Q. How many US Attorneys, US Marshals, jail space, immigration attorney's, Administrative judges will need to be hired and paid to accomplish Trumps plan. What is your estimate of this cost?

Q. what will be the cost in terms of human suffering and taxpayer monies to repeal Medicare, the ACA and Social Security.

 

[Rustic]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

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Then this morning on the news they had footage where he was touting the stance against sending illegals home to Mexico.

Yeah. He ain't making any friends with conservatives.

I thought the same thing.

He is a conservative. He is simply a rational one; the kind who is practical and pragmatic.

Illegal immigration is why Donald Trump is so popular. Taking the opposing side is not going to appeal to an already angry GOP base.

Rich repubs don't want immigration reform, they love the cheap labor.

As do rich progressives same diff...

 

[bendog]

Kasich is the only candidate who has actually been a key figure in creating a balanced federal budget.

Not just balanced, but one with surpluses out to the horizon.

Walker had that too, I believe.

G5000 referred to THE US BUDGET

Precisely. There is no other candidate who has that pedigree.

Hillary can claim, "Well, I was married to the guy who signed the balanced budget that Kasich helped write..."

We can go back and look at Kasich's proposals. His were much more to the right than Slick's, but compromise prevailed in the end and ....... the budget balanced.

1998 Effects of Kasich Budget Plan - 5-21/98

1994 THE 1994 CAMPAIGN: THE REPUBLICANS; It's the Economy Again, as Democrats Attack the 'Contract With America'

 

[bedowin62]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

I think it was stand up stuff and I applaud him for doing what he did. I have a lot more respect for him now. The good thing about The Donald, he's making everybody come clean.

But now that he questions or even thinks too hard about hard right policy....he's a communist.

The fringe right has a binary reasoning scheme. Either you accept ONLY what they believe. Or you're a communist.

So much for the big tent.

you're making accusations you cant back up with facts but accusing others of binary thinking nutcase?

oh that's right i already proved you're an idiot that lies to himself

 

[Rustic]

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

Trump has said no such thing. What he did say is that he plans to deport all the "ILLEGAL ALIENS." He made it clear that LEGAL immigrants, and let's be clear, to be an IMMIGRANT, you must be here LEGALLY, then you are more than welcome.

This POLITICAL CORRECTNESS name change game doesn't work. It just causes confusion and people use it to lie.

Political correctness IS the progressives bible...

 

[007]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

I think it was stand up stuff and I applaud him for doing what he did. I have a lot more respect for him now. The good thing about The Donald, he's making everybody come clean.

But now that he questions or even thinks too hard about hard right policy....he's a communist.

The fringe right has a binary reasoning scheme. Either you accept ONLY what they believe. Or you're a communist.

So much for the big tent.

The libtard dictionary of synonyms: Fringe right = Traditional conservative platforms.

 

[bedowin62]

the so-called entitlement programs need reforming. Medicaid is rife with waste fraud and abuse.

libs are losers who lie to themselves

 

[Skylar]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I still think her best bet for VP is Rep. from Texas Castro.

Fully agree...Castro (I believe its Julian) would wholly mitigate any of the advantage that Latinos such as a Rubio or Cruz offers to the GOP ticket.

It is Julian, he has a twin brother and along with their mom will not only bring along the Latino Vote but the votes of all Americans since they speak form the heart, not echoing the spark notes of right wing / arch conservative demagoguery.