karl marx grave needs to be removed.

[Soupnazi630]

You are a liar and coward.

I know nothing of the sort I do in fact know you are truly a fool

Everyone knows it. That is why they voted for the outsider in the last presidential election.

No they do not know it what they know is that communism is evil by design and consistently results in evil

Bow answer the question why would i want a dictatorship when we DO NOT have one NOW?

Everyone knows it. That is why they like Trump to attack the media. They are in control the means of mental production. Everyone knows it.

No they do not fool.

You have no idea what people believe and know and neither do I

I do however know that all intelligent people reject Marx

Now stop running away like a ***** and answer the question

You cannot meme good

Now answer the question. You are not more enlightened or less ignorant

Explain why the dictatorship of the proletariat is better than NO dictatorship which is what we have

 

[Soupnazi630]

Marx had no clue how capitalism or capitalist means of production would develop. He predicted many things about this development and EVERY thing HE EVER predicted has been absolutely proven wrong.

Name one.

I named two here is another.

NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production

 

[Tehon]

Marx had no clue how capitalism or capitalist means of production would develop. He predicted many things about this development and EVERY thing HE EVER predicted has been absolutely proven wrong.

Name one.

I named two here is another.

NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production

But what about all those "communist" states that you dopes point out as failures of socialism?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Marx had no clue how capitalism or capitalist means of production would develop. He predicted many things about this development and EVERY thing HE EVER predicted has been absolutely proven wrong.

Name one.

I named two here is another.

NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production

But what about all those "communist" states that you dopes point out as failures of socialism?

I will answer you when you stop acting like a total ***** and answer the question you dishonest coward.

Defend the boil encrusted unwashed rapist you love so damned much and explain why we would want the dictatorship of the proletariat as opposed to the free society we have?

Defend your evil and disgusting ideology

 

[Tehon]

Marx had no clue how capitalism or capitalist means of production would develop. He predicted many things about this development and EVERY thing HE EVER predicted has been absolutely proven wrong.

Name one.

I named two here is another.

NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production

But what about all those "communist" states that you dopes point out as failures of socialism?

I will answer you when you stop acting like a total ***** and answer the question you dishonest coward.

Defend the boil encrusted unwashed rapist you love so damned much and explain why we would want the dictatorship of the proletariat as opposed to the free society we have?

Defend your evil and disgusting ideology

It appears you have backed yourself into a corner. You have acknowledged that socialism doesn't exist in the so called communist countries. Thank you.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Marx had no clue how capitalism or capitalist means of production would develop. He predicted many things about this development and EVERY thing HE EVER predicted has been absolutely proven wrong.

Name one.

I named two here is another.

NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production

But what about all those "communist" states that you dopes point out as failures of socialism?

I will answer you when you stop acting like a total ***** and answer the question you dishonest coward.

Defend the boil encrusted unwashed rapist you love so damned much and explain why we would want the dictatorship of the proletariat as opposed to the free society we have?

Defend your evil and disgusting ideology

It appears you have backed yourself into a corner. You have acknowledged that socialism doesn't exist in the so called communist countries. Thank you.

I have done nothing of the sort as I never made any such claim.

You however continue to run and evade and dodge like a coward

Answer the question and stop proving you are an uneducated fool

Why would anyone want a dictatorship which marx demanded?

Answer

 

[georgephillip]

DO not dodge as you have in the past. Marx preached dictatorship of the proletariat by which he MEANT DICTATORSHIP and despotism and tyranny.

We do not have one now so why would I want one?

Dictatorship of the Proletariat means direct democratic control of government by a majority of citizens, as opposed to our current dictatorship of capital:

Some Thoughts on the Dictatorship of the Proletariat – INIP

"Many workers today are confused about a key concept of historical materialism, the idea of the 'dictatorship of the proletariat.'

"It is a very literal English translation, it means exactly how it reads: the idea that workers should have political power, instead of the bosses, corporations and landlords—essentially the exact opposite of what we have today.

"We live under the 'dictatorship of Capital,' where everything is reduced to exchange values and commodification, even people."

Why do you think Marx began his examination of capitalism with the "commodity"?

Soupnazi knows full well what is being said. He has no choice but to feign ignorance.

Soupnazi knows full well what is being said. He has no choice but to feign ignorance.

Conservatives I've known have no choice but to embrace their political/economic status quo in spite of its obvious historical crimes.

Capitalism is Slavery

 

[Soupnazi630]

DO not dodge as you have in the past. Marx preached dictatorship of the proletariat by which he MEANT DICTATORSHIP and despotism and tyranny.

We do not have one now so why would I want one?

Dictatorship of the Proletariat means direct democratic control of government by a majority of citizens, as opposed to our current dictatorship of capital:

Some Thoughts on the Dictatorship of the Proletariat – INIP

"Many workers today are confused about a key concept of historical materialism, the idea of the 'dictatorship of the proletariat.'

"It is a very literal English translation, it means exactly how it reads: the idea that workers should have political power, instead of the bosses, corporations and landlords—essentially the exact opposite of what we have today.

"We live under the 'dictatorship of Capital,' where everything is reduced to exchange values and commodification, even people."

Why do you think Marx began his examination of capitalism with the "commodity"?

Soupnazi knows full well what is being said. He has no choice but to feign ignorance.

Soupnazi knows full well what is being said. He has no choice but to feign ignorance.

Conservatives I've known have no choice but to embrace their political/economic status quo in spite of its obvious historical crimes.

Capitalism is Slavery

This is why certain people on the left are trying to ban memes.

The left just cannot meme correctly

Capitalism is not slavery.

No one makes you get married or watch TV or save for old age of even walk on the pavement.

You are simply advised to do these things. You choose whether to do so.

That by definition is not slavery communism however IS slavery by design.

Under capitalism If I choose to save for my old age it is MINE to enrich my life. Under communism ( or socialism ) it ids the collectives who have rulers to judge how much of what I make I deserve to keep. That is slavery.

 

[georgephillip]

Dictatorship of the Proletariat means direct democratic control of government by a majority of citizens, as opposed to our current dictatorship of capital:

Some Thoughts on the Dictatorship of the Proletariat – INIP

"Many workers today are confused about a key concept of historical materialism, the idea of the 'dictatorship of the proletariat.'

"It is a very literal English translation, it means exactly how it reads: the idea that workers should have political power, instead of the bosses, corporations and landlords—essentially the exact opposite of what we have today.

"We live under the 'dictatorship of Capital,' where everything is reduced to exchange values and commodification, even people."

Why do you think Marx began his examination of capitalism with the "commodity"?

Soupnazi knows full well what is being said. He has no choice but to feign ignorance.

You are a liar and coward.

I know nothing of the sort I do in fact know you are truly a fool

Everyone knows it. That is why they voted for the outsider in the last presidential election.

No they do not know it what they know is that communism is evil by design and consistently results in evil

Bow answer the question why would i want a dictatorship when we DO NOT have one NOW?

The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

Marx, German Ideology (1845)

The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

“Ruling class and ruling ideas” by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels – A summary

"In 'The Ruling Class and the Ruling Ideas '(1970), Marx and Engels argue that the prevailing ideas of a particular society are formed by the ruling class to express and justify their position.

"This contrasts the view that ideas and values within a society exist separately from political or economical leadership.

"Marx and Engels propose that the class in control of the material production also controls the 'mental production'.

"While regular citizens are busy with their day-to-day tasks, part of the ruling class take on the function of the 'thinkers', those whom we see as subject matter experts, and actively develop and promote those values and messages."

Marx and Engles could not possibly have imagined how effectively the control of material production controls mental production today in the "Land of the Free."

 

[Soupnazi630]

Soupnazi knows full well what is being said. He has no choice but to feign ignorance.

You are a liar and coward.

I know nothing of the sort I do in fact know you are truly a fool

Everyone knows it. That is why they voted for the outsider in the last presidential election.

No they do not know it what they know is that communism is evil by design and consistently results in evil

Bow answer the question why would i want a dictatorship when we DO NOT have one NOW?

The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

Marx, German Ideology (1845)

The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

“Ruling class and ruling ideas” by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels – A summary

"In 'The Ruling Class and the Ruling Ideas '(1970), Marx and Engels argue that the prevailing ideas of a particular society are formed by the ruling class to express and justify their position.

"This contrasts the view that ideas and values within a society exist separately from political or economical leadership.

"Marx and Engels propose that the class in control of the material production also controls the 'mental production'.

"While regular citizens are busy with their day-to-day tasks, part of the ruling class take on the function of the 'thinkers', those whom we see as subject matter experts, and actively develop and promote those values and messages."

Marx and Engles could not possibly have imagined how effectively the control of material production controls mental production today in the "Land of the Free."

Been over it all ready.

They were full of shit and ignorant k. The extreme

They knew nothing whatsoever about production mental or physical

You are not making them look smarter by quoting things they said which are demonstrably falae.

 

[Tehon]

You are a liar and coward.

I know nothing of the sort I do in fact know you are truly a fool

Everyone knows it. That is why they voted for the outsider in the last presidential election.

No they do not know it what they know is that communism is evil by design and consistently results in evil

Bow answer the question why would i want a dictatorship when we DO NOT have one NOW?

The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

Marx, German Ideology (1845)

The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

“Ruling class and ruling ideas” by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels – A summary

"In 'The Ruling Class and the Ruling Ideas '(1970), Marx and Engels argue that the prevailing ideas of a particular society are formed by the ruling class to express and justify their position.

"This contrasts the view that ideas and values within a society exist separately from political or economical leadership.

"Marx and Engels propose that the class in control of the material production also controls the 'mental production'.

"While regular citizens are busy with their day-to-day tasks, part of the ruling class take on the function of the 'thinkers', those whom we see as subject matter experts, and actively develop and promote those values and messages."

Marx and Engles could not possibly have imagined how effectively the control of material production controls mental production today in the "Land of the Free."

Been over it all ready.

They were full of shit and ignorant k. The extreme

They knew nothing whatsoever about production mental or physical

You are not making them look smarter by quoting things they said which are demonstrably falae.

Everyone sees it.

 

[Tehon]

Marx and Engles could not possibly have imagined how effectively the control of material production controls mental production today in the "Land of the Free."

They got it right though.

And Americans have no clue as to how right they are precisely because the ruling class controls the mental production.

 

[georgephillip]

DO not dodge as you have in the past. Marx preached dictatorship of the proletariat by which he MEANT DICTATORSHIP and despotism and tyranny.

We do not have one now so why would I want one?

Dictatorship of the Proletariat means direct democratic control of government by a majority of citizens, as opposed to our current dictatorship of capital:

Some Thoughts on the Dictatorship of the Proletariat – INIP

"Many workers today are confused about a key concept of historical materialism, the idea of the 'dictatorship of the proletariat.'

"It is a very literal English translation, it means exactly how it reads: the idea that workers should have political power, instead of the bosses, corporations and landlords—essentially the exact opposite of what we have today.

"We live under the 'dictatorship of Capital,' where everything is reduced to exchange values and commodification, even people."

Why do you think Marx began his examination of capitalism with the "commodity"?

Soupnazi knows full well what is being said. He has no choice but to feign ignorance.

Soupnazi knows full well what is being said. He has no choice but to feign ignorance.

Conservatives I've known have no choice but to embrace their political/economic status quo in spite of its obvious historical crimes.

Capitalism is Slavery

This is why certain people on the left are trying to ban memes.

The left just cannot meme correctly

Capitalism is not slavery.

No one makes you get married or watch TV or save for old age of even walk on the pavement.

You are simply advised to do these things. You choose whether to do so.

That by definition is not slavery communism however IS slavery by design.

Under capitalism If I choose to save for my old age it is MINE to enrich my life. Under communism ( or socialism ) it ids the collectives who have rulers to judge how much of what I make I deserve to keep. That is slavery.

This is why certain people on the left are trying to ban memes.

The left just cannot meme correctly

Capitalism is not slavery.

No one makes you get married or watch TV or save for old age of even walk on the pavement.

You are simply advised to do these things. You choose whether to do so.

And if you "choose" to abstain from being exploited by elite capitalists who grow rich from your surplus labor value, you starve; is that really how you define "freedom"?

Slaves like you go through life being used as a commodity by those who own land and other factors of production in a national economy created by chattel slavery and genocide, and yet you imagine you are free.

You are not.

https://www.history.com/news/slavery-profitable-southern-economy

"Slavery was so profitable, it sprouted more millionaires per capita in the Mississippi River valley than anywhere in the nation..."

"With cash crops of tobacco, cotton and sugar cane, America’s southern states became the economic engine of the burgeoning nation. Their fuel of choice? Human slavery.

"If the Confederacy had been a separate nation, it would have ranked as the fourth richest in the world at the start of the Civil War.

"The slave economy had been very good to American prosperity.

"By the start of the war, the South was producing 75 percent of the world’s cotton and creating more millionaires per capita in the Mississippi River valley than anywhere in the nation.

"Slaves represented Southern planters’ most significant investment—and the bulk of their wealth."

 

[Soupnazi630]

Everyone knows it. That is why they voted for the outsider in the last presidential election.

No they do not know it what they know is that communism is evil by design and consistently results in evil

Bow answer the question why would i want a dictatorship when we DO NOT have one NOW?

The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

Marx, German Ideology (1845)

The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

“Ruling class and ruling ideas” by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels – A summary

"In 'The Ruling Class and the Ruling Ideas '(1970), Marx and Engels argue that the prevailing ideas of a particular society are formed by the ruling class to express and justify their position.

"This contrasts the view that ideas and values within a society exist separately from political or economical leadership.

"Marx and Engels propose that the class in control of the material production also controls the 'mental production'.

"While regular citizens are busy with their day-to-day tasks, part of the ruling class take on the function of the 'thinkers', those whom we see as subject matter experts, and actively develop and promote those values and messages."

Marx and Engles could not possibly have imagined how effectively the control of material production controls mental production today in the "Land of the Free."

Been over it all ready.

They were full of shit and ignorant k. The extreme

They knew nothing whatsoever about production mental or physical

You are not making them look smarter by quoting things they said which are demonstrably falae.

Everyone sees it.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Everyone knows it. That is why they voted for the outsider in the last presidential election.

No they do not know it what they know is that communism is evil by design and consistently results in evil

Bow answer the question why would i want a dictatorship when we DO NOT have one NOW?

The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

Marx, German Ideology (1845)

The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

“Ruling class and ruling ideas” by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels – A summary

"In 'The Ruling Class and the Ruling Ideas '(1970), Marx and Engels argue that the prevailing ideas of a particular society are formed by the ruling class to express and justify their position.

"This contrasts the view that ideas and values within a society exist separately from political or economical leadership.

"Marx and Engels propose that the class in control of the material production also controls the 'mental production'.

"While regular citizens are busy with their day-to-day tasks, part of the ruling class take on the function of the 'thinkers', those whom we see as subject matter experts, and actively develop and promote those values and messages."

Marx and Engles could not possibly have imagined how effectively the control of material production controls mental production today in the "Land of the Free."

Been over it all ready.

They were full of shit and ignorant k. The extreme

They knew nothing whatsoever about production mental or physical

You are not making them look smarter by quoting things they said which are demonstrably falae.

Everyone sees it.

No one sees it and only fools agree with you .

 

[Soupnazi630]

Marx and Engles could not possibly have imagined how effectively the control of material production controls mental production today in the "Land of the Free."

They got it right though.

And Americans have no clue as to how right they are precisely because the ruling class controls the mental production.

They got it massively wrong like everything else.

There is no ruling class

Now answer the question and explain why I would want a dictatorship.

Come on ***** .

Stop running and answer

 

[Soupnazi630]

DO not dodge as you have in the past. Marx preached dictatorship of the proletariat by which he MEANT DICTATORSHIP and despotism and tyranny.

We do not have one now so why would I want one?

Dictatorship of the Proletariat means direct democratic control of government by a majority of citizens, as opposed to our current dictatorship of capital:

Some Thoughts on the Dictatorship of the Proletariat – INIP

"Many workers today are confused about a key concept of historical materialism, the idea of the 'dictatorship of the proletariat.'

"It is a very literal English translation, it means exactly how it reads: the idea that workers should have political power, instead of the bosses, corporations and landlords—essentially the exact opposite of what we have today.

"We live under the 'dictatorship of Capital,' where everything is reduced to exchange values and commodification, even people."

Why do you think Marx began his examination of capitalism with the "commodity"?

Soupnazi knows full well what is being said. He has no choice but to feign ignorance.

Soupnazi knows full well what is being said. He has no choice but to feign ignorance.

Conservatives I've known have no choice but to embrace their political/economic status quo in spite of its obvious historical crimes.

Capitalism is Slavery

This is why certain people on the left are trying to ban memes.

The left just cannot meme correctly

Capitalism is not slavery.

No one makes you get married or watch TV or save for old age of even walk on the pavement.

You are simply advised to do these things. You choose whether to do so.

That by definition is not slavery communism however IS slavery by design.

Under capitalism If I choose to save for my old age it is MINE to enrich my life. Under communism ( or socialism ) it ids the collectives who have rulers to judge how much of what I make I deserve to keep. That is slavery.

This is why certain people on the left are trying to ban memes.

The left just cannot meme correctly

Capitalism is not slavery.

No one makes you get married or watch TV or save for old age of even walk on the pavement.

You are simply advised to do these things. You choose whether to do so.

And if you "choose" to abstain from being exploited by elite capitalists who grow rich from your surplus labor value, you starve; is that really how you define "freedom"?

Slaves like you go through life being used as a commodity by those who own land and other factors of production in a national economy created by chattel slavery and genocide, and yet you imagine you are free.

You are not.

https://www.history.com/news/slavery-profitable-southern-economy

"Slavery was so profitable, it sprouted more millionaires per capita in the Mississippi River valley than anywhere in the nation..."

"With cash crops of tobacco, cotton and sugar cane, America’s southern states became the economic engine of the burgeoning nation. Their fuel of choice? Human slavery.

"If the Confederacy had been a separate nation, it would have ranked as the fourth richest in the world at the start of the Civil War.

"The slave economy had been very good to American prosperity.

"By the start of the war, the South was producing 75 percent of the world’s cotton and creating more millionaires per capita in the Mississippi River valley than anywhere in the nation.

"Slaves represented Southern planters’ most significant investment—and the bulk of their wealth."

I am not a slave boy an neither are you.


One getting wealthy does not make me poor and even under socialism or communism people have to work or starve

Now answer why I would want to be told who to work for and how to work which communism dictates or make my own choices under capitalism

In in other words do not be a coward and total whiny ***** like Tehon is.


Answer why I would exchange a free society for a dictatorship which Marx demanded

Capitalism abolished slavery you fool and it is not slavery to have to work to eat.

Yes everyone must work or starve even under socialism and communism

Here under capitalism we have real choice rather than forced violence and enslavement which Marx preached and you defend

 

[georgephillip]

Marx had no clue how capitalism or capitalist means of production would develop. He predicted many things about this development and EVERY thing HE EVER predicted has been absolutely proven wrong.

Name one.

I named two here is another.

NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production

I named two here is another.

NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production

How would you go about proving "NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production"?

Did US capitalists rise up and seize the land and other resources for their own private profits?

Here's Your Foolproof Guide for the Principle of Falsifiability

 

[Soupnazi630]

Marx had no clue how capitalism or capitalist means of production would develop. He predicted many things about this development and EVERY thing HE EVER predicted has been absolutely proven wrong.

Name one.

I named two here is another.

NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production

I named two here is another.

NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production

How would you go about proving "NO ONE has or ever will rise up and seize the means of production"?

Did US capitalists rise up and seize the land and other resources for their own private profits?

Here's Your Foolproof Guide for the Principle of Falsifiability

Ok clearly I should have been more specific but I assumed you read karl Marx and understood the reference

He wrote that the workers would SPONTANEOUSLY rise up and sieze the means of production because this is the inevitable result of the dialectic view of history

Of course the dialectic view of history is intellectually vapid and idiotic. Nor is it even remotely scientific despite Marx referring to it as scientific

The fact is people around the world do not never have and never will spontaneously act in such a manner.

That is why his prediction is massively stupid and self defeating and absolutely proven false.

 

[georgephillip]

He specifically predicted that the proletariat class would shrink.

It grew and continues to grow. Not only does it grow it splits and as opposed to his idiotic world view we have multiple classes with a great deal of upward and downward mobility

Marx specifically predicted the proletariat class would shrink as technology fundamentally changes the relationship between work and subsistence. As machines replace human labor, humans will find it difficult (at best) to generate economic value from their work, and this is exactly what is happening today as millions of living wage US jobs leave the country for China and Mexico.

China is Responsible for US Manufacturing Job Loss | AutoInformed