Kamala supports NO RESTRICTIONS on abortion

Nobody is going through 9 months of pregnancy to have an abortion right before the chord is cut.

That isn't the point though is it. The point is that you lunatics wouldn't pass legislation to ban it. You also stated that it is just a fetus, not a person, so I understand why you wouldn't want legislation against it.
 
That isn't the point though is it. The point is that you lunatics wouldn't pass legislation to ban it. You also stated that it is just a fetus, not a person, so I understand why you wouldn't want legislation against it.
Ban what. Killing a fetus that survives birth is already illegal
 
Ban what. Killing a fetus that survives birth is already illegal

Ban killing a baby in the womb at 9 months. Why would that be legal?
 
That isn't the point though is it. The point is that you lunatics wouldn't pass legislation to ban it. You also stated that it is just a fetus, not a person, so I understand why you wouldn't want legislation against it.

The government shouldn't be regulating ANYONE'S health care.

These decisions are best left to a woman and her doctor.

I don't want legislation against it because we know how you guys would abuse it.

Just like you used fetal homicide laws to go after women who had miscarriages.

You...can't...be...trusted.
 
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“I’m not gonna engage in hypotheticals because we could go on a variety of scenarios,” she said. “Let’s just start with a fundamental fact, a basic freedom has been taken from the women of America: the freedom to make decisions about their own body. And that cannot be negotiable, which is that we need to put back in the protections of Roe v Wade. And that is it.
She in no way said she supports babies being killed on tables.
Those types of statements are what bothers me. I believe in certain scenarios where the unfortunate decision to abort a pregnancy is an option.

But what bothers me is the rhetoric that a "Freedom is being taken away". Like what? Every woman and man who engages is sexual activity can, either before or during the engagement do the following:

  • Wear protection
  • Be on birth control
  • Don't have sex
  • Don't pressure a woman into sex
  • Ladies, choose better sexual partners that won't pressure you to have sex without protection
  • Fucking pull out, it's not full proof, but better than nothing
  • Engage in other sexual activities rather than vaginal sex: oral, hands jobs, butt, foot, I don't care.
The statement that Kamala purposes is that most women don't have a choice about sex. We know that's not the case. So, take advantage of all the other freedoms available before the last 'choice' is the only viable choice.
 
The government shouldn't be regulating ANYONE'S health care.
And yet they are by allowing the killing of a baby.

As far as your slippery slope argument, I feel the same way about allieing you morons any say regarding gun control.
 
Those types of statements are what bothers me. I believe in certain scenarios where the unfortunate decision to abort a pregnancy is an option.

But what bothers me is the rhetoric that a "Freedom is being taken away". Like what? Every woman and man who engages is sexual activity can, either before or during the engagement do the following:

  • Wear protection
  • Be on birth control
  • Don't have sex
  • Don't pressure a woman into sex
  • Ladies, choose better sexual partners that won't pressure you to have sex without protection
  • Fucking pull out, it's not full proof, but better than nothing
  • Engage in other sexual activities rather than vaginal sex: oral, hands jobs, butt, foot, I don't care.
The statement that Kamala purposes is that most women don't have a choice about sex. We know that's not the case. So, take advantage of all the other freedoms available before the last 'choice' is the only viable choice.

I'm sure a lot of women who have abortions did all those things. And they still need abortions.

Why do you spend so much time worrying about what other people are doing for sex.

Fetuses aren't people. There's no reason they should have more rights than the people they are inside.
 
And yet they are by allowing the killing of a baby.

As far as your slippery slope argument, I feel the same way about allieing you morons any say regarding gun control.

Fetuses aren't babies.

Actually, gun control would be wonderful. Most countries ban private gunownership and the have nowhere near our crime rates.
 
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What kind of sick POS thinks it is fine to murder a baby on the table?

Fucking animals.

Soulless ghouls.
Is it not up to the States to decide?
 
Fetuses aren't babies.

Actually, gun control would be wonderful. Most countries ban private gunownership and the have nowhere near our crime rates.
Your contention is that a baby is not a person at any point when he or she is in the womb? Sad.
 
I'm sure a lot of women who have abortions did all those things. And they still need abortions.
Assumption
Why do you spend so much time worrying about what other people are doing for sex.
Because abortion is a potential consequence of sex. The narrative is "Don't take away my freedom". Okay great, I don't want to take away your freedoms, but you're also free to make other choices that doesn't lead to a pregnancy. Can you agree that it's plausible to ask that instead of this narrative that purposes that pregnancy is like some common virus, that a woman had no choice to catch. That's why the term "healthcare" is a vast over generalization of the problem were trying to solve.

Make better decisions now so you don't have to make the tough decisions later. Is that not agreeable, or are you so damn hard headed that you can't even begin to fathom agreeing to the previous statement?
 
Your contention is that a baby is not a person at any point when he or she is in the womb? Sad.

Pretty much.

you guys can't be trusted. You are trying to regulate something that never happens (aborting a healthy fetus at 9 months), you have to wonder what your real goal is. Never let the Camel get its nose into the tent.

Because abortion is a potential consequence of sex. The narrative is "Don't take away my freedom". Okay great, I don't want to take away your freedoms, but you're also free to make other choices that doesn't lead to a pregnancy. Can you agree that it's plausible to ask that instead of this narrative that purposes that pregnancy is like some common virus, that a woman had no choice to catch. That's why the term "healthcare" is a vast over generalization of the problem were trying to solve.

Uh, guy, your side definitely wants to take away those freedoms. You miss the days when those women were in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.

No, it's not plausible for you to do anything other than MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS.

It's not a problem that needs to be solved. You guys want to stick your noses in places they don't belong.

The problem is that all your alternatives imply moral judgments that aren't yours to make.

You live your life, they'll live theirs.


Make better decisions now so you don't have to make the tough decisions later. Is that not agreeable, or are you so damn hard headed that you can't even begin to fathom agreeing to the previous statement?

Because I don't trust religious prudes to be making decisions for anyone.

It's her body, it's her choice. Even if she makes choices I wouldn't make, I don't tell anyone how to live.
 
Assumption

Because abortion is a potential consequence of sex. The narrative is "Don't take away my freedom". Okay great, I don't want to take away your freedoms, but you're also free to make other choices that doesn't lead to a pregnancy. Can you agree that it's plausible to ask that instead of this narrative that purposes that pregnancy is like some common virus, that a woman had no choice to catch. That's why the term "healthcare" is a vast over generalization of the problem were trying to solve.

Make better decisions now so you don't have to make the tough decisions later. Is that not agreeable, or are you so damn hard headed that you can't even begin to fathom agreeing to the previous statement?
But poor people cannot afford condoms…they can only afford abortions.

CONDOMS ARE 30 CENTS EACH.

Abortion pills (AKA medication abortion) can cost up to around $800, but it’s often less. The average cost at Planned Parenthood is around $580.

An in-clinic abortion can cost up to around $800 in the first trimester, but it’s often less. The average cost of a first trimester in-clinic abortion at Planned Parenthood is about $600. The cost of a second trimester abortion at Planned Parenthood varies depending on how many weeks pregnant you are. The average ranges from about $715 earlier in the second trimester to $1,500-2,000 later in the second trimester.

THE CULT JUST FUCKING LIE. IT IS A DEATH CULT.
 
But poor people cannot afford condoms…they can only afford abortions.

CONDOMS ARE 30 CENTS EACH.

Abortion pills (AKA medication abortion) can cost up to around $800, but it’s often less. The average cost at Planned Parenthood is around $580.

An in-clinic abortion can cost up to around $800 in the first trimester, but it’s often less. The average cost of a first trimester in-clinic abortion at Planned Parenthood is about $600. The cost of a second trimester abortion at Planned Parenthood varies depending on how many weeks pregnant you are. The average ranges from about $715 earlier in the second trimester to $1,500-2,000 later in the second trimester.

THE CULT JUST FUCKING LIE. IT IS A DEATH CULT.

Condoms break.
Sometimes women don't realize they are pregnant until AFTER an abortion pill will no longer be effective.
 
Uh, guy, your side definitely wants to take away those freedoms.
Wrong again
You miss the days when those women were in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.
Assumption and speculation coming from once again, ignorance and illogical stance.
No, it's not plausible for you to do anything other than MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS.
But politicians are making the business of everyone in the country. Therefore, I have an opinion. Again, everyone, except for the mentally challenged, know how babies are made and know how to prevent them. Those choices are easy to make and all I am asking is that as humans, who have this great responsibility to not only create life, but also create life in a way that can be transformative on a personal, social and global level, and treat it the responsibility with a bit more dignity than if it were a common cold.

But you can't fathom that sitting behind your desk, a childless, famililess, fat ass old man troll. You don't know what it's like to love a child. To hold a baby that is yours. You don't know what it's like to guide and nurture that child and see it grow into a better you. You have no fucking clue you feckless fatherless troll that see human reproduction nothing more than a cold or a parasite.
Because I don't trust religious prudes to be making decisions for anyone.
I'm not religious, but you keep going there, for some unknown reason.
It's her body, it's her choice.
Just make sure you make all the other choices before having sex. And again, there are circumstance that occur, that I don't have a say, and it is the PARENTS choice to decide. Be responsible so the choice for abortion is the absolute last choice to be made. That's all I'm saying, but you go down these assumptions, making an ass of yourself time and time again.
Even if she makes choices I wouldn't make, I don't tell anyone how to live.
I don't either.
 
You are trying to regulate something that never happens (aborting a healthy fetus at 9 months), you have to wonder what your real goal is.

If it never happens, you shouldn't have a problem passing a law to prohibit it. It is essentially murder after all at that point. You see, we don't trust immoral liberals NOT to decide to kill an unborn baby at any point in time, thus, laws are necessary to protect the baby that can't protect himself/herself.
 
The religious crazies strike again.

But politicians are making the business of everyone in the country. Therefore, I have an opinion. Again, everyone, except for the mentally challenged, know how babies are made and know how to prevent them. Those choices are easy to make and all I am asking is that as humans, who have this great responsibility to not only create life, but also create life in a way that can be transformative on a personal, social and global level, and treat it the responsibility with a bit more dignity than if it were a common cold.

Or maybe you treat it like it is... a condition that can be treated with a pill or a 10-minute visit to your OB?GYN. It's just not a big deal.

The problem is you are dramatic over abortion. I don't really care, other than the enjoyment watching religious fanatics be upset that it's still legal in this country.


But you can't fathom that sitting behind your desk, a childless, famililess, fat ass old man troll. You don't know what it's like to love a child. To hold a baby that is yours. You don't know what it's like to guide and nurture that child and see it grow into a better you. You have no fucking clue you feckless fatherless troll that see human reproduction nothing more than a cold or a parasite.

No, what I can't fathom is religious crazies trying to pretend a fetus is the same dignity as an actual baby or an adult. When most abortions happen Globby is the size of a Lima bean and looks like a cocktail shrimp.

Frankly, this sounds a little narcissistic. If I did have a kid, I most certainly wouldn't want for him to be me. I would want him (or her) to be their own person. This is the problem with the anti-choice crowd. A bunch of males who strut around like they've accomplished something by planting their seed, and how dare those uppity women treat it like a cold or a parasite.

Just make sure you make all the other choices before having sex. And again, there are circumstance that occur, that I don't have a say, and it is the PARENTS choice to decide. Be responsible so the choice for abortion is the absolute last choice to be made. That's all I'm saying, but you go down these assumptions, making an ass of yourself time and time again.

Having abortions when you aren't ready to have a kid is very responsible. What's fucked up is marrying someone because birth control failed. Thank C'Thulhu we don't do that anymore!

The reality is, that you are trying to apply a logical process to an emotional response. Sometimes guys don't carry rubbers with them, sometimes rubbers break. Sometimes she tells you she's on the pill when she isn't.

When I was in the Service, one of my fellow NCO's was dating this young lady. College educated. Not stupid. From a very religious and traditional background. And when he didn't make good on his promises to marry her, she stopped taking her pills. When an "unexpected" pregnancy happened, she got an abortion when it was clear that wasn't going to get the knot tied.

Why? She didn't want her parents to know she wasn't still a virgin at 21.

Personal relationships ARE hard to navigate. People like you need to butt out.
 
If it never happens, you shouldn't have a problem passing a law to prohibit it. It is essentially murder after all at that point. You see, we don't trust immoral liberals NOT to decide to kill an unborn baby at any point in time, thus, laws are necessary to protect the baby that can't protect himself/herself.

Again, we've already seen how you guys have abused other well-intentioned laws.

Like how you've prosecuted women who have had miscarriages under the Fetal Homicide law.

Look up Purvi Patel or Shau Bei-bei.

Here's the law I would like to pass. If your fucking church interferes in a woman's right to choose, they lose their tax exemption.
 

What kind of sick POS thinks it is fine to murder a baby on the table?

Fucking animals.

Soulless ghouls.
Harris made it quite clear that she would restore Row V. Wade abortion protections for women. That's about as clear as you can get.
 
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Feb 16, 2012 — Foster Friess: In my day, 'gals' put aspirin 'between their knees' for contraception ... POLITICO's James Hohmann reports: Foster Friess, the mega ...

“On this contraceptive thing, my Gosh it’s such [sic] inexpensive,” he added. “You know, back in my days, they used Bayer aspirin for contraception. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn’t that costly.”


Todd Akin: "Legitimate rape" stops pregnancy​

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Aug 19, 2012 —

"First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” Missouri Senate hopeful Todd Akin said in an interview Sunday, explaining why his ideal abortion ban wouldn't include an exception for rape. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,” he added.

They haven't evolved much since then.
 

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