Kamala supports NO RESTRICTIONS on abortion

[DonGlock26]

 

[DBA]

Again, we've already seen how you guys have abused other well-intentioned laws.

And we see what you lunatics do when given an inch in controlling gun rights. Many blue cities are so restrictive that they have effectively banned guns from law abiding citizens. Of course, criminals in those cities don’t care and don’t have a problem.

Here's the law I would like to pass. If your fucking church interferes in a woman's right to choose, they lose their tax exemption.

If your wack-job left-wing “pro-choice” doctor performs a late term abortion, he/she should be jailed for murder. A woman shouldn’t have the right to kill a baby just because that baby is dependent on her at the MOMENT for survival.

All this being said, this is EXACTLY why this was turned over to the states. A liberal nut state like Illinois can choose to kill babies all under the guise of a woman’s right to choose and a more moral, sane state like mine can reach a compromise that would most certainly prevent late term abortions.

 

[LibertyKid]

The religious crazies strike again.

Wrong again, but keep trying, troll.

Or maybe you treat it like it is... a condition that can be treated with a pill or a 10-minute visit to your OB?GYN. It's just not a big deal.

Easy to say, when you don't have to live with the potential consequences.

The problem is you are dramatic over abortion. I don't really care, other than the enjoyment watching religious fanatics be upset that it's still legal in this country.

Keep trying

No, what I can't fathom is religious crazies

Keep trying

trying to pretend a fetus is the same dignity as an actual baby or an adult. When most abortions happen Globby is the size of a Lima bean and looks like a cocktail shrimp.

You're completely missing the point, and I can expect that from someone who has never experienced creating life and nurturing that life.

Frankly, this sounds a little narcissistic. If I did have a kid, I most certainly wouldn't want for him to be me. I would want him (or her) to be their own person. This is the problem with the anti-choice crowd. A bunch of males who strut around like they've accomplished something by planting their seed, and how dare those uppity women treat it like a cold or a parasite.

I didn't say I want my kids to grow up like me. I said a better version of me, which includes all facets. But again, you've shared no love, nurture, mentoring, discipline and or direction with anything that you love and loves you back. You haven't experienced a child calling you daddy, and looking up to you as the greatest thing in their life. When you experience that, maybe then you'll understand the importance of "creating life". And that's my point, maybe we respect the act of reproduction more than basic animal instinct we can't control, because we can.

And yes, there are circumstances that do happen, that I can't decide for someone else what they do. I believe the narrative should shift to be more responsible. But you won't address that.

Having abortions when you aren't ready to have a kid is very responsible. What's fucked up is marrying someone because birth control failed. Thank C'Thulhu we don't do that anymore!

As I've said, there are circumstances out of our control that I can't decide or should have a say.

The reality is, that you are trying to apply a logical process to an emotional response. Sometimes guys don't carry rubbers with them, sometimes rubbers break. Sometimes she tells you she's on the pill when she isn't.

Then be more responsible. Are you saying that being horny is more important than understanding the outcome?

When I was in the Service, one of my fellow NCO's was dating this young lady. College educated. Not stupid. From a very religious and traditional background. And when he didn't make good on his promises to marry her, she stopped taking her pills. When an "unexpected" pregnancy happened, she got an abortion when it was clear that wasn't going to get the knot tied.

Why? She didn't want her parents to know she wasn't still a virgin at 21.

Personal relationships ARE hard to navigate. People like you need to butt out.

Irresponsible actions have consequences. And your anecdote, proves that. She knew what the fuck she was doing. "Unexpected", we both know she knew what she was doing and the consequences. She didn't catch a cold or a virus.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

It's a state issue.

One day or nine months it's an innocent child. If you don't want a child practice personal responsibility

According to Democrats, you don't exist. ALL WOMEN support "a woman's right to choose"

 

[ColonelAngus]

Lefty cult fucks will not stop until abortion is legal into the 7th trimester.

 

[JoeB131]

And we see what you lunatics do when given an inch in controlling gun rights. Many blue cities are so restrictive that they have effectively banned guns from law abiding citizens. Of course, criminals in those cities don’t care and don’t have a problem.

Actually, it was quite the opposite. Cities sensibly tried to control guns, and the gun industry sued to get those laws overturned (Heller, McDonald). That's when they weren't circumventing the law by setting up gun shops on the border and selling to anyone who wandered into the door.


This is why my solution would not be trying to restrict guns, but just holding gun store and manufacturers legally responsible when they sell to the wrong person.

If your wack-job left-wing “pro-choice” doctor performs a late term abortion, he/she should be jailed for murder. A woman shouldn’t have the right to kill a baby just because that baby is dependent on her at the MOMENT for survival.

Then that Baby shouldn't have picked the wrong woman to be inside. Not that anyone is actually performing late abortions. ("Late Term" is one of those dishonest phrases. When a baby is brought to term, it means it's been born.)

All this being said, this is EXACTLY why this was turned over to the states. A liberal nut state like Illinois can choose to kill babies all under the guise of a woman’s right to choose and a more moral, sane state like mine can reach a compromise that would most certainly prevent late term abortions.

Nope. It should be the woman and her doctor, period. We've seen what happens when the states get it, they impose six week bans.

 

[DBA]

Actually, it was quite the opposite. Cities sensibly tried to control guns, and the gun industry sued to get those laws overturned (Heller, McDonald). That's when they weren't circumventing the law by setting up gun shops on the border and selling to anyone who wandered into the door.

Actually, sanity is starting to come back. Restricting a non-resident's 2nd Amendment rights was just wrong. Maybe sanity and Constitutional sanctity will come to your wacko home state soon. I know you would hate that, but those of us forced to travel to your God forsaken state could at least lawfully protect ourselves from the rampant crime.

New York changes gun rules after Supreme Court ruling

This is why my solution would not be trying to restrict guns, but just holding gun store and manufacturers legally responsible when they sell to the wrong person.

The "wrong" person huh. Yeah, ok. No subjectivity there at all.

Then that Baby shouldn't have picked the wrong woman to be inside. Not that anyone is actually performing late abortions. ("Late Term" is one of those dishonest phrases. When a baby is brought to term, it means it's been born.)

The baby didn't pick anything. Our laws have to protect everyone, including babies, from you evil, immoral nut jobs.

Nope. It should be the woman and her doctor, period. We've seen what happens when the states get it, they impose six week bans.

Nope, not late term. Sorry, but most disagree with you on this.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Good for her.

Abortion is a very painful personal decision and the government needs to keep the fuck out of it.

Other than paying for it. You missed that part, Jeanie. How convenient.

 

[JoeB131]

Easy to say, when you don't have to live with the potential consequences.

You're completely missing the point, and I can expect that from someone who has never experienced creating life and nurturing that life.

Um, yeah, you can happily be a breeder (or aspire to be, the way you talk, I doubt you've ever gotten laid.)

I didn't say I want my kids to grow up like me. I said a better version of me, which includes all facets.

Distinction without a difference.

And yes, there are circumstances that do happen, that I can't decide for someone else what they do. I believe the narrative should shift to be more responsible. But you won't address that.

Nope, we just have different definitions of being responsible.

Family Planning has been the greatest anti-poverty program in the history of mankind.

You see, here's the thing. Once upon a time, it made sense for women to pump out as many babies as they could when the Child Mortality rate was 50% plus. Today, not so much. Abortion makes up for the fact we've eliminated Smallpox.

As I've said, there are circumstances out of our control that I can't decide or should have a say.

Actually, it's none of your fucking business, so you should sit down and shut the fuck up.

Then be more responsible. Are you saying that being horny is more important than understanding the outcome?

Hey, when you're trying to get laid, everything else is secondary. The little head has a mind of it's own. You'd probably know this if you ever got laid.

Irresponsible actions have consequences. And your anecdote, proves that. She knew what the fuck she was doing. "Unexpected", we both know she knew what she was doing and the consequences. She didn't catch a cold or a virus.

Nope, she got rid of a parasite the size of a kidney bean. She actually wanted to get rid of it earlier, but the doctors told her she had to wait until the eighth week. (This was in 1989, the tech has improved since then) But you miss the point of the anecdote. All the religion and education in the world didn't stop this girl from making a decision that you don't like.

And here's the thing, "kid", the reality is that you are expecting people in their late teens or early 20s to show judgement when their brains haven't quite fully developed. Sure, a couple of oldsters can sit here and talk about what this girl "should" have done, but I look at her as what she was, an immature 21 year old who made bad relationship decisions.

 

[DBA]

Abortion makes up for the fact we've eliminated Smallpox.

You are one sick puppy. I sincerely hope that you aren't representative of the typical Democrat. If so, our country is in far worse shape than I thought.

 

[JoeB131]

Actually, sanity is starting to come back. Restricting a non-resident's 2nd Amendment rights was just wrong. Maybe sanity and Constitutional sanctity will come to your wacko home state soon. I know you would hate that, but those of us forced to travel to your God forsaken state could at least lawfully protect ourselves from the rampant crime.

Sanity is not living in a country where we have 43,000 gun deaths a year, 70,000 gun injuries, 450,000 gun crimes and 230 Billion in gun-related economic losses. That would be sane.

It's what every other industrialized democracy does.

The "wrong" person huh. Yeah, ok. No subjectivity there at all.

Sure, objectively, whoever sold an AR-15 and a 100 magazine to Joker Holmes fucked up. So when he mows down a theater full of people because he didn't like the Batman movie, that gun seller should be held liable.

I promise you, once they start paying out the big bucks, they'll be giving gun buyer rectal exams before selling.

Other than paying for it. You missed that part, Jeanie. How convenient.

Funny you should mention that. In France, the government pays for the abortions. They also pay family leave, all medical expenses, and even send around government workers to help new mothers settle in. As a result, France has 30% less abortions per Capita than the USA does.

Conversely, the Philippines have the kinds of laws that your wingnuts pray for. You can't get an abortion unless it's a proven health threat to the woman. Yet Filipinas get 500,000 to 800,000 illegal abortions every year. A higher abortion rate than the USA.

Since money grubbing is in your DNA, abortion is actually practical. A $300 Abortion is always a better bargain than a $10,000 live birth.

 

[JoeB131]

You are one sick puppy. I sincerely hope that you aren't representative of the typical Democrat. If so, our country is in far worse shape than I thought.

The fact that you clowns are willing to elect a cognitively impaired Nazi because you are upset ladies are getting abortions, says this country is in far worse shape.

But my point stands. When you take the Child mortality rate down from 50% to 0.06% where it is now, you just don't need to produce as many babies.

 

[DBA]

It's what every other industrialized democracy does.

And once again you have been brainwashed into believing that the most powerful and successful country in the world should follow the lead of those behind it. Pure stupidity.

I promise you, once they start paying out the big bucks, they'll be giving gun buyer rectal exams before selling.

And the result would be no gun sales to law abiding citizens, just black market stuff. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

You can't hold a gun store or gun manufacturer responsible for the behavior of the buyer anymore than you can hold Toyota responsible for selling their car to nut job who decides to plow through a crowd of people. This is just another attempt to skirt the 2nd Amendment. Only dumb people(the majority of your base) would fall for this.

When you take the Child mortality rate down from 50% to 0.06% where it is now, you just don't need to produce as many babies.

So don't produce as many babies. There are very effective ways to prevent the VAST majority of pregnancies. Abortion, at any time, is not birth control. Leave it to a Democrat to avoid responsibility.

 

[JoeB131]

And once again you have been brainwashed into believing that the most powerful and successful country in the world should follow the lead of those behind it. Pure stupidity.

No, but you do look at what other people are doing right.

Simply put, the effects of gun proliferation far outweigh any benefits.

And the result would be no gun sales to law abiding citizens, just black market stuff. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Most gun deaths are suicides and domestic violence. Restricting law abiding citizens would have vast benefits.

You can't hold a gun store or gun manufacturer responsible for the behavior of the buyer anymore than you can hold Toyota responsible for selling their car to nut job who decides to plow through a crowd of people. This is just another attempt to skirt the 2nd Amendment. Only dumb people(the majority of your base) would fall for this.

Cars aren't designed to kill people. guns are.

The Second Amendment is about militias. I'm all for Mlitias, I was a member of one for years.

So don't produce as many babies. There are very effective ways to prevent the VAST majority of pregnancies. Abortion, at any time, is not birth control. Leave it to a Democrat to avoid responsibility.

Abortion is the only birth control that is 100% effective.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Sanity is not living in a country where we have 43,000 gun deaths a year, 70,000 gun injuries, 450,000 gun crimes and 230 Billion in gun-related economic losses. That would be sane.

It's what every other industrialized democracy does.




Sure, objectively, whoever sold an AR-15 and a 100 magazine to Joker Holmes fucked up. So when he mows down a theater full of people because he didn't like the Batman movie, that gun seller should be held liable.

I promise you, once they start paying out the big bucks, they'll be giving gun buyer rectal exams before selling.



Funny you should mention that. In France, the government pays for the abortions. They also pay family leave, all medical expenses, and even send around government workers to help new mothers settle in. As a result, France has 30% less abortions per Capita than the USA does.

Conversely, the Philippines have the kinds of laws that your wingnuts pray for. You can't get an abortion unless it's a proven health threat to the woman. Yet Filipinas get 500,000 to 800,000 illegal abortions every year. A higher abortion rate than the USA.

Since money grubbing is in your DNA, abortion is actually practical. A $300 Abortion is always a better bargain than a $10,000 live birth.

So your statement of having the Govt stay out of it was BS. And in France can’t do it post week 15. You lose again. Too easy.

 

[DBA]

Simply put, the effects of gun proliferation far outweigh any benefits.

False

Most gun deaths are suicides and domestic violence. Restricting law abiding citizens would have vast benefits.

False

Cars aren't designed to kill people. guns are.

Has nothing to do with anything. Guns can kill. Guns can also be used for sport. Guns can be used to kill animals. You know, this thing called hunting.

The Second Amendment is about militias. I'm all for Mlitias, I was a member of one for years.

Ah, so you are against the 2nd Amendment. Now we are getting somewhere.

Abortion is the only birth control that is 100% effective.

Abortion is not birth control any more than murder is population control.

 

[Rambunctious]

Roe V Wade had restrictions like no second term abortions unless the health of the mother is threatened...
Most rabid pro abortion women don't even know this....
Many of the limitations by the states are fewer than with Roe V Wade....

 

[Soupnazi630]

No, but you do look at what other people are doing right.

Simply put, the effects of gun proliferation far outweigh any benefits.



Most gun deaths are suicides and domestic violence. Restricting law abiding citizens would have vast benefits.



Cars aren't designed to kill people. guns are.

The Second Amendment is about militias. I'm all for Mlitias, I was a member of one for years.



Abortion is the only birth control that is 100% effective.

Restrioocting law abiding citizens would produce no such benefits. DOmestic violen ce by definition is a crime and there for not commited by law abiding citizens.


The second amendment is about individual rights

You never srrved exceot at mcdonalds and you never proved otherwise LIAR

 

[JoeB131]

So your statement of having the Govt stay out of it was BS. And in France can’t do it post week 15. You lose again. Too easy.

France can do it post week 15 if a doctor says it's medically necessary.

I wasn't pointing out that WE should do that, just that if you want to have this is a policy, you should maybe do some of the other things, too.

 

[JoeB131]

Roe V Wade had restrictions like no second term abortions unless the health of the mother is threatened...
Most rabid pro abortion women don't even know this....
Many of the limitations by the states are fewer than with Roe V Wade....

Again, you are confused.

Roe allowed for restrictions based on "Viability", but those restrictions were nullified by Doe v. Boland, issued the same day as Roe, which allowed for third trimester abortion for health reasons. (the only real reason why they are done.)