Kamala supports NO RESTRICTIONS on abortion

[hadit]

You are lying as usual.

Read This If You Believe That Later Abortions Only Happen in Case of Severe Medical Conditions

It is a commonly held and oft-expressed opinion that abortions of babies after 20 weeks occur only when the unborn baby has been diagnosed with a fatal condition or severe disability or when continuing the pregnancy poses a severe threat to the mother’s life. This view is not bolstered by the...

www.aei.org

In all seriousness, it would be easy to disprove it by just calling up the local abortion mill and saying you want an abortion fast before your baby is born in a few weeks. Give no reason why and see what they say.

 

[JoeB131]

You are lying as usual.

Read This If You Believe That Later Abortions Only Happen in Case of Severe Medical Conditions

It is a commonly held and oft-expressed opinion that abortions of babies after 20 weeks occur only when the unborn baby has been diagnosed with a fatal condition or severe disability or when continuing the pregnancy poses a severe threat to the mother’s life. This view is not bolstered by the...

www.aei.org

Do you really think there is a woman is who going to go through 8 months of pregnancy to have an abortion on a whim?

I read through that article and frankly, it offered no evidence that elective late abortions are common or even happen that often. They also define a "late" abortion as 20 weeks, which is only 4-5 months, long before the fetus is viable.

I had a coworker who had a premature birth at 29 weeks. The baby weighed less than three pounds and spent a month in the NICU. She was in tears every day. Trying to pretend a 20 week fetus that has zero chance of survival outside the womb is the same as a baby is absurd.

You just claimed poor societies are superior to wealthy societies.

Nope, but your reading comprehension is poor.

The thing is, people from those poor countries have a work ethic Americans kind of lack.

 

[Thunderbird]

Do you really think there is a woman is who going to go through 8 months of pregnancy to have an abortion on a whim?

I read through that article and frankly, it offered no evidence that elective late abortions are common or even happen that often. They also define a "late" abortion as 20 weeks, which is only 4-5 months, long before the fetus is viable.

I had a coworker who had a premature birth at 29 weeks. The baby weighed less than three pounds and spent a month in the NICU. She was in tears every day. Trying to pretend a 20 week fetus that has zero chance of survival outside the womb is the same as a baby is absurd.


Nope, but your reading comprehension is poor.

The thing is, people from those poor countries have a work ethic Americans kind of lack.

Either your reading comprehension is poor or you don’t care about the facts.

Quote: However, while the occasional politician or news reporter will still indicate that late-term abortions are most often performed in the case of “severe fetal anomalies” or to “save the woman’s life,” the trajectory of the peer-reviewed research literature has been obvious for decades: most late-term abortions are elective, done on healthy women with healthy fetuses, and for the same reasons given by women experiencing first trimester abortions. The Guttmacher Institute has provided a number of reports over 2 decades which have identified the reasons why women choose abortion, and they have consistently reported that childbearing would interfere with their education, work, and ability to care for existing dependents; would be a financial burden; and would disrupt partner relationships.3 A more recent Guttmacher study focused on abortion after 20 weeks of gestation and similarly concluded that women seeking late-term abortions were not doing so for reasons of fetal anomaly or life endangerment.

Source: Late-Term Abortion and Medical Necessity: A Failure of Science - PMC

You claimed in post #159 that poor societies are backward.

 

[JoeB131]

Either your reading comprehension is poor or you don’t care about the facts.

Quote: However, while the occasional politician or news reporter will still indicate that late-term abortions are most often performed in the case of “severe fetal anomalies” or to “save the woman’s life,” the trajectory of the peer-reviewed research literature has been obvious for decades: most late-term abortions are elective, done on healthy women with healthy fetuses, and for the same reasons given by women experiencing first trimester abortions. The Guttmacher Institute has provided a number of reports over 2 decades which have identified the reasons why women choose abortion, and they have consistently reported that childbearing would interfere with their education, work, and ability to care for existing dependents; would be a financial burden; and would disrupt partner relationships.3 A more recent Guttmacher study focused on abortion after 20 weeks of gestation and similarly concluded that women seeking late-term abortions were not doing so for reasons of fetal anomaly or life endangerment.

Your opinion or that of a article writer on an anti-Choice blog aren't facts.

First, they use the term "Late Term" abortion refers to abortions performed in the 41st week or later, which is NEVER done selectively.

Third-Trimester Abortions Are Moral and Necessary Health Care

Abortions after 20 weeks are about ending suffering. To deny someone that care is barbaric

www.scientificamerican.com

They travel dozens, hundreds, sometimes thousands of miles seeking health care. They come with fetal conditions so severe, their babies will not survive. Or they are far too young to consent to sex, let alone become a parent. Other times, it’s the first chance they’ve had to escape domestic violence, or because they live in states with so many restrictions, they couldn't access abortion care sooner.

By most estimates, a small number—1 percent—of abortions happen after 20 weeks, and not in the monstrous way people would have you believe.

As I fill a syringe with a chemical that will stop a fetus’s heart, what I am doing is fulfilling my patients’ request to end suffering, whether that of the baby with brittle bone disease who will not survive labor and delivery or the parents who could not bear to witness it. The polarizing political rhetoric of “ripping babies out of wombs right before birth” or “no one is having an abortion near their due date” is simplistic and wrong. Abortion later in pregnancy is critically important for the people who need it. To them, politics are irrelevant. They need the care that they need.

In contrast to what people think of doctors who provide abortion care later in pregnancy, all of us doing this work have thought deeply about the moral and ethical implications of doing so. We’ve concluded that not only is it in line with our personal values, but that to refuse would be a violation of our own conscience and our professional ethics. Conscientious refusal of care, in which physicians cannot be forced to provide care to which they morally object, is talked about frequently—but conscientious provision of care gets less attention. I provide third-trimester abortions because it would be against my own moral code to endanger the life and welfare of someone by forcing them to carry a pregnancy to term against their own wishes and best judgment.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Do you really think there is a woman is who going to go through 8 months of pregnancy to have an abortion on a whim?

Doesn’t matter why. That’s you dodging.

Is it legal to murder an 8th month pregnancy? Yes or no.

You won’t answer because you’re a coward, and don’t want to just say it… like Harris was.

I read through that article and frankly, it offered no evidence that elective late abortions are common or even happen that often.

They shouldn’t happen at all. Or should they?

They also define a "late" abortion as 20 weeks, which is only 4-5 months, long before the fetus is viable.

I had a coworker

Your anecdotes don’t mean anything.
You and your sides’ attempts to dehumanize 3rd trimester babies (in the name of feminists wanting their sexual revolution) is immoral and a losing issue

 

[ColonelAngus]

What about abortion in the 4th trimester?

 

[Thunderbird]

Your opinion or that of a article writer on an anti-Choice blog aren't facts.

First, they use the term "Late Term" abortion refers to abortions performed in the 41st week or later, which is NEVER done selectively.

Third-Trimester Abortions Are Moral and Necessary Health Care

Abortions after 20 weeks are about ending suffering. To deny someone that care is barbaric

www.scientificamerican.com

They travel dozens, hundreds, sometimes thousands of miles seeking health care. They come with fetal conditions so severe, their babies will not survive. Or they are far too young to consent to sex, let alone become a parent. Other times, it’s the first chance they’ve had to escape domestic violence, or because they live in states with so many restrictions, they couldn't access abortion care sooner.

By most estimates, a small number—1 percent—of abortions happen after 20 weeks, and not in the monstrous way people would have you believe.

As I fill a syringe with a chemical that will stop a fetus’s heart, what I am doing is fulfilling my patients’ request to end suffering, whether that of the baby with brittle bone disease who will not survive labor and delivery or the parents who could not bear to witness it. The polarizing political rhetoric of “ripping babies out of wombs right before birth” or “no one is having an abortion near their due date” is simplistic and wrong. Abortion later in pregnancy is critically important for the people who need it. To them, politics are irrelevant. They need the care that they need.

In contrast to what people think of doctors who provide abortion care later in pregnancy, all of us doing this work have thought deeply about the moral and ethical implications of doing so. We’ve concluded that not only is it in line with our personal values, but that to refuse would be a violation of our own conscience and our professional ethics. Conscientious refusal of care, in which physicians cannot be forced to provide care to which they morally object, is talked about frequently—but conscientious provision of care gets less attention. I provide third-trimester abortions because it would be against my own moral code to endanger the life and welfare of someone by forcing them to carry a pregnancy to term against their own wishes and best judgment.

That is not an anti-choice blog. Again you are lying.

Your own article acknowledges that some late term abortions are perpetrated on healthy fetuses and healthy mothers. You should admit your error. (You won’t since you are a habitual liar.)

You seem to feel moral behavior & health care = tearing a small helpless human to pieces.

Societies that don’t kill unborn babies will ultimately prevail over societies that do kill unborn babies.

 

[JoeB131]

That is not an anti-choice blog. Again you are lying.

Your own article acknowledges that some late term abortions are perpetrated on healthy fetuses and healthy mothers. You should admit your error. (You won’t since you are a habitual liar.)

You seem to feel moral behavior & health care = tearing a small helpless human to pieces.



Societies that don’t kill unborn babies will ultimately prevail over societies that do kill unborn babies.

Oh, look, they are breaking out the Fetus Porn.

There's no such thing as a "Late Term" abortion. If a pregnancy is brought to term, it means a baby has been born. SO already you start with the dishonest language.

No woman is going through 8 months of pregnancy and having an abortion for the hell of it. The only scenario where I could see that happening is maybe if she caught him fucking the maid, and she's getting back at him, but reality, women don't think like that.

Doesn’t matter why. That’s you dodging.

Is it legal to murder an 8th month pregnancy? Yes or no.

You won’t answer because you’re a coward, and don’t want to just say it… like Harris was.

Abortion isn't murder, it's health care.

Fetuses aren't people so they can't be murdered.

They shouldn’t happen at all. Or should they?

That decision should be left up to the woman and her doctor, full stop.

Your anecdotes don’t mean anything.
You and your sides’ attempts to dehumanize 3rd trimester babies (in the name of feminists wanting their sexual revolution) is immoral and a losing issue

Millions of babies shit themselves to death in the third world due to lack of medicines and clean water, and you clowns don't give a shit about them.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Oh, look, they are breaking out the Fetus Porn.

There's no such thing as a "Late Term" abortion. If a pregnancy is brought to term, it means a baby has been born. SO already you start with the dishonest language.

Wow, you seem to support all abortion up until birth. A Disgusting, morally reprehensible position. Even your radical democrats were trying to dodge supporting it. You’re a major minority in your immoral perspective.

No woman is going through 8 months of pregnancy and having an abortion for the hell of it.

How the hell would you know? You just make things up.

Millions of babies shit themselves to death in the third world due to lack of medicines and clean water, and you clowns don't give a shit about them.

Actually, the Catholic Church offers the most charity to such places on planet earth, more than the American government. Way more than Democrats and their voters

 

[JoeB131]

Wow, you seem to support all abortion up until birth. A Disgusting, morally reprehensible position. Even your radical democrats were trying to dodge supporting it. You’re a major minority in your immoral perspective.

I trust the judgment of women and their doctors. If find it amusing that the people who were screaming about vaccine mandates want to regulate a woman's most intimate decisions.

How the hell would you know? You just make things up.

Or I actually, you know, talk to women. No woman is going through 8 months of pregnancy to end it on a whim. It just doesn't happen that way. If a woman is having an abortion at 6 months or 8 months, it's because something has gone horribly wrong with the pregnancy and you religious ghouls need to mind your own business.

Actually, the Catholic Church offers the most charity to such places on planet earth, more than the American government. Way more than Democrats and their voters

The Catholic Church is responsible for most of the misery in the third world, that's the thing. Most of the third world is poor because the follow Catholic Teachings on family planning- keep having babies you can't feed or afford.

The difference between a first-world country and a third-world country is access to family planning.