Justice

[TexM3]

if justice is not served what are the implications?

Why should I follow any of their laws as long as I’m not causing any harm to person or property?

 

[Coyote]

In what respect are you talking about? Who is "they"? What justice?

 

[TexM3]

In what respect are you talking about? Who is "they"? What justice?

Don’t be dense.

 

[Coyote]

In what respect are you talking about? Who is "they"? What justice?

Don’t be dense.

I'm asking you to be explicit - your statement is so broad that it's difficult to answer.

 

[TheOldSchool]

if justice is not served what are the implications?

Why should I follow any of their laws as long as I’m not causing any harm to person or property?

Because somebody will eventually show up to take your stuff, and you're going to want some backup.

 

[TexM3]

Hint: The biggest political scandal in American history.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Hint: The biggest political scandal in American history.

Oh is this just another white grievance Clinton thread? Sorry then I'm out.

 

[TexM3]

if justice is not served what are the implications?

Why should I follow any of their laws as long as I’m not causing any harm to person or property?

Because somebody will eventually show up to take your stuff, and you're going to want some backup.

People are not going to risk death to take my stuff.

 

[TexM3]

Hint: The biggest political scandal in American history.

Oh is this just another white grievance Clinton thread? Sorry then I'm out.

You a racist?

 

[TheOldSchool]

if justice is not served what are the implications?

Why should I follow any of their laws as long as I’m not causing any harm to person or property?

Because somebody will eventually show up to take your stuff, and you're going to want some backup.

People are not going to risk death to take my stuff.

People have done just that throughout all of human history. If the first group doesn't take you out, they'll send a bigger group.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Let Mueller complete his investigation and there will be charges. Relax.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Hint: The biggest political scandal in American history.

Oh is this just another white grievance Clinton thread? Sorry then I'm out.

You a racist?

If this isn't a Clinton grievance thread then I apologize.

 

[depotoo]

White grievance? This is why you guys are losing. Nothing in his post even suggested such bull crap.

Hint: The biggest political scandal in American history.

Oh is this just another white grievance Clinton thread? Sorry then I'm out.

 

[Coyote]

Hint: The biggest political scandal in American history.

You have a short grasp of history. But if you mean the ongoing investigation into Russian meddling in our election and potential involvement of members of the Trump campaign - here is how justice works (for those that don't have a clue).

First, there has to be evidence of a crime committed. Then follows an investigation, people are indicted and charged. Then there is a trial (or plea bargain) and then - if guilty - sentencing.

So far - a handful of people have been charged/found guilty/undergoing trial. Chief among them Flynn, Manafort, Page. The investigation is ongoing. When it concludes we shall see if "justice" has been served. This is not done in the court of public opinion where you don't have access to all the information and more and more people seem to be relying on opinion over facts (of which there aren't a lot available).

 

[task0778]

if justice is not served what are the implications?

Why should I follow any of their laws as long as I’m not causing any harm to person or property?

Quite often the courts hand down a decision that is accepted by some and denounced by others. You may not agree with what is decided and what is being done, but that does not mean you get to decide which laws you will obey and which you will ignore. Doesn't matter whether harm is being done or not, the law is the law until it gets changed and that's it. We have a judicial system that can 'stay' a law, meaning it is not enforceable for the time being, and we have elected representatives who are supposed to decide for us what the law should be. If you don't agree then vote the bastards out of office, that's what elections are for. If your side loses, tough shit, try harder next time.

Added: some would say Watergate was the biggest political scandal in history, and there have been others. I don't think there' anything going on currently that ranks with Watergate.

 

[Coyote]

The biggest political scandals - at the top of every list modern scandals I've found, is #1 Watergate.

But the list is interesting...if we look at history - 8 Early American Political Scandals

 

[TexM3]

Hint: The biggest political scandal in American history.

You have a short grasp of history. But if you mean the ongoing investigation into Russian meddling in our election and potential involvement of members of the Trump campaign - here is how justice works (for those that don't have a clue).

First, there has to be a crime committed. Then follows an investigation, people are indicted and charged. Then there is a trial (or plea bargain) and then - if guilty - sentencing.

So far - a handful of people have been charged/found guilty/undergoing trial. Chief among them Flynn, Manafort, Page. The investigation is ongoing. When it concludes we shall see if "justice" has been served. This is not done in the court of public opinion where you don't have access to all the information and more and more people seem to be relying on opinion over facts (of which there aren't a lot available).

Kangaroo court is not justice.

 

[Coyote]

Hint: The biggest political scandal in American history.

You have a short grasp of history. But if you mean the ongoing investigation into Russian meddling in our election and potential involvement of members of the Trump campaign - here is how justice works (for those that don't have a clue).

First, there has to be a crime committed. Then follows an investigation, people are indicted and charged. Then there is a trial (or plea bargain) and then - if guilty - sentencing.

So far - a handful of people have been charged/found guilty/undergoing trial. Chief among them Flynn, Manafort, Page. The investigation is ongoing. When it concludes we shall see if "justice" has been served. This is not done in the court of public opinion where you don't have access to all the information and more and more people seem to be relying on opinion over facts (of which there aren't a lot available).

Kangaroo court is not justice.

Which "kangaroo court" are you referring to?

 

[TexM3]

The biggest political scandals - at the top of every list modern scandals I've found, is #1 Watergate.

But the list is interesting...if we look at history - 8 Early American Political Scandals

The memo blows Watergate out of the water.

 

[task0778]

The biggest political scandals - at the top of every list modern scandals I've found, is #1 Watergate.

But the list is interesting...if we look at history - 8 Early American Political Scandals

The Tea Pot Dome scandal was pretty bad, and many think the Iran Contra thing was pretty bad too.