Yes, God is in Psalm 83:18. This is what I see, Kjw47. You are a sincere individual. You desire to know the truth and in John 7: 17 Jesus told us that if we are willing to do the will of God once we know it - God will reveal the truth to us. So I would appeal to God along those lines if I were you. I believe you will find the answers you seek if you come to God with a sincere heart.
On the matter of Adam. Who made Adam, Kjw47? Was he born of a woman or born of God? Who? If you say he was born of God then you see this is why Jesus was born of God yet called the second Adam. If you say he was born of a woman, who was his mother?
A question I have for you. When Thomas put his hands into Jesus wounds, he exclaimed, My Lord and My God. As Jesus was sinless how could Jesus not have corrected Thomas were this not the truth? Why did he say to him Blessed are they who have not seen and believed? You see, it is by Faith, that you believe, Kjw47. It is not of works but of faith. Abraham was justified by "faith" not by works.
What did Abraham say when he went up to sacrifice his son, the son of promise?
It is written: And Abraham said to his young men, Abide here with the ass, and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you. - Genesis 22: 5
Two things - he was obeying God and taking his son to the altar. Yet he tells his men, I and the boy are going up to worship - (pure worship is obedience and sacrifice) -
Now then, he knew he would return with the boy and told his men this. How did he know he would return with the boy - the son of promise? By faith. That is how he knew. That is how you are going to know too. You read the Word of God - and by Faith - you believe. Because God has given you a measure of faith and even though the size of a mustard seed. It is enough. Keep reading the Word of God until you are saved. By Faith you will receive what you are searching for kwj47. By faith.
I explained this to you I thought---Thomas was confused----- and a way bigger issue is that--Jesus while attending the synagogues his first 30 years was taught--YHWH(Jehovah) a single being mono God---this is what he would have refuted but did not, because its 100% fact--the Israelites were serving the true God--YHWH(Jehovah) a single being mono God. They rejected Jesus--so the new religion--serves YHWH(Jehovah) as God and accepts Jesus as the one sent by God--The Messiah.
Jesus, Paul, Peter, John all in agreement---The Father( Jehovah) is Jesus' God--John 20:17,Rev 3:12---2Cor 1:3,1Cor 8:6,1Cor 15:24-28---1Peter 1:3----Rev 1:6---- either these 4 are wrong or the trinity teachers are wrong--I choose to believe those 4.
Thank you for your response, Kwj47. I truly appreciate the opportunity to discuss this with you. If Thomas was confused as you say he was, then was God confused also? In Genesis 1: 26 and Genesis 1:27 and again in Genesis 3:22? What do you think? Let me post the scriptures for your examination:
It is written:
And God said, Let us make man in our image and in our likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
- Genesis 1: 26
And yet is written:
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them.
- Genesis 1: 27
And finally it is written:
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil, and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.
- Genesis 3: 22
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Please notice that God refers to Himself as "Us" and "Our" - then in the very next verse God says man was created in His Own image. God is One as in 1 x 1 x 1 = 1 Father, Word ( His Son - Jesus Christ ) , Spirit. Hear O Israel, the LORD thy God is One.
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* When I asked you earlier about whether Adam was the son of God or son of man, I should have added - who was Adam's father? I did ask you who was Adam's mother but I should have asked, Who was Adam's father? Because the bloodline comes from the Father and not the mother. So with that established, I would like to present to you that where Adam fell, Christ did not. He is called the second Adam and the son of man for this very reason. Do you see the significance in this now? You see we are a trichotomy. We were created in the image of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
We are a spirit that will live eternally in one of two places. Heaven or hell. Because as a spirit we must dwell somewhere. ( Eternally ) While on this earth - although we are a spirit and God is a Spirit and we Worship God in Spirit and Truth ( See John 4 ) we live in a flesh and blood body. This body will perish and return back to dust. ( to the ground from whence it came originally - see Adam - his name means earth - red clay ) We have a soul. You can find the scripture of King David commanding his soul to Bless the LORD. The soul is the mind - the will, the heart, the seat of our emotions ) The Psalm I refer to specificly would be Psalm 103 : 1 - bless the Lord O my soul, and forget not all of his benefits. Who forgiveth all thine iniquities, and who healeth all thy diseases. Who redeemeth thy life from destruction..... King David is speaking of the LORD JESUS, who was from the beginning.
It is written:
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same was with God in the beginning. - John 1: 1
Why is the W capitolized? Because this Word is Jesus Christ to which John refers.
It is written:
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us ( and we beheld his glory as of the only begotten of the Father ) full of grace and truth.
-John 1: 14
And who was the only begotten of the Father?
It is written:
For God so loved the world that he gave His Only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
- John 3: 16
