Just One More Statistic

[PoliticalChic]

That's what I love about baseball.....the tons of stats.

Watching the new Yankee, Clay Holmes.
Been excellent since the Yankees picked him up.

I wasn't impressed with him when the Yanks got him, pretty much a lifetime over 5 ERA.

I don't know if Pittsburgh is a terrible fielding team, but.....

.....there is a stat called FIP....

Fielding Independent Pitching (FIP)​

Definition​

FIP is similar to ERA, but it focuses solely on the events a pitcher has the most control over -- strikeouts, unintentional walks, hit-by-pitches and home runs. It entirely removes results on balls hit into the field of play.

For example: If a pitcher has surrendered a high average on balls in play, his FIP will likely be lower than his ERA. Balls in play are not part of the FIP equation because a pitcher is believed to have limited control over their outcome.

The formula​

Where the "FIP constant" puts FIP onto the same scale as the entire league's ERA: ((HR x 13) + (3 x (BB + HBP)) - (2 x K)) / IP + FIP constant."

Fielding Independent Pitching (FIP) | Glossary | MLB.com

The Official Site of Major League Baseball

www.mlb.com

And his FIP is way better that that ERA would lead one to believe.

Clay Holmes​

New York Yankees
Age: 28
Bats/Throws: R/R
6' 5" / 230
P

Birthdate:	3/27/1993 (28 y, 4 m, 11 d)
Drafted:	2011 June Amateur Draft - Round: 9, Pick: 1, Overall: 272, Team: Pittsburgh Pirates
Contract:	1 yr, $650k (2021)
AAV:	$650k
Service Time:	2.031	MiLB Options:	0

Quick Look

2021 Pitch Summary:	SI:	53%	FC:	28%	CU:	19%

Season	Team	Level	G	GS	IP	K%	BB%	GB%	ERA	FIP	WAR
2021	- - -	MLB	49	0	48.0	23.0%	12.0%	73.1%	4.50	3.79	0.3
2021	FGDC	ROS	19	0	19.0				4.03	4.29	0.0
Total	- - -	MLB	96	4	125.2	21.6%	14.4%	64.3%	5.37	4.58	0.1

Prospects Report

2019 Report	Team Rank:	29	Overall Rank:	N/A	ETA:	2019

Fastball	Curveball	Changeup	Cutter	Command	FV
60 / 60	55 / 55	45 / 45	45 / 45	40 / 40	40

 

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That's what I love about baseball.....the tons of stats.

Watching the new Yankee, Clay Holmes.
Been excellent since the Yankees picked him up.

I wasn't impressed with him when the Yanks got him, pretty much a lifetime over 5 ERA.

I don't know if Pittsburgh is a terrible fielding team, but.....
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.....there is a stat called FIP....

Fielding Independent Pitching (FIP)​

Definition​

FIP is similar to ERA, but it focuses solely on the events a pitcher has the most control over -- strikeouts, unintentional walks, hit-by-pitches and home runs. It entirely removes results on balls hit into the field of play.

For example: If a pitcher has surrendered a high average on balls in play, his FIP will likely be lower than his ERA. Balls in play are not part of the FIP equation because a pitcher is believed to have limited control over their outcome.

The formula​

Where the "FIP constant" puts FIP onto the same scale as the entire league's ERA: ((HR x 13) + (3 x (BB + HBP)) - (2 x K)) / IP + FIP constant."

Fielding Independent Pitching (FIP) | Glossary | MLB.com

The Official Site of Major League Baseball

www.mlb.com

And his FIP is way better that that ERA would lead one to believe.

Clay Holmes​

New York Yankees
Age: 28
Bats/Throws: R/R
6' 5" / 230
P

Birthdate:	3/27/1993 (28 y, 4 m, 11 d)
Drafted:	2011 June Amateur Draft - Round: 9, Pick: 1, Overall: 272, Team: Pittsburgh Pirates
Contract:	1 yr, $650k (2021)
AAV:	$650k
Service Time:	2.031	MiLB Options:	0

Quick Look

2021 Pitch Summary:	SI:	53%	FC:	28%	CU:	19%

Season	Team	Level	G	GS	IP	K%	BB%	GB%	ERA	FIP	WAR
2021	- - -	MLB	49	0	48.0	23.0%	12.0%	73.1%	4.50	3.79	0.3
2021	FGDC	ROS	19	0	19.0				4.03	4.29	0.0
Total	- - -	MLB	96	4	125.2	21.6%	14.4%	64.3%	5.37	4.58	0.1

Prospects Report

2019 Report	Team Rank:	29	Overall Rank:	N/A	ETA:	2019

Fastball	Curveball	Changeup	Cutter	Command	FV
60 / 60	55 / 55	45 / 45	45 / 45	40 / 40	40

Curling, a winter Olympics sport.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Curling, a winter Olympics sport.

I never watch the Olympics.

 

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I never watch the Olympics.

You're missing out on a lot in life.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You're missing out on a lot in life.

Of course I'm not.

Get back to me when you've read any of the several books on the Munich Olympics.

I'm currently reading...

 

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Of course I'm not.

Get back to me when you've read any of the several books on the Munich Olympics.

I'm currently reading...


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I know all about the 1972 Munich summer Olympics, I was in Nam and The Stars and Stripes covered it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I know all about the 1972 Munich summer Olympics, I was in Nam and The Stars and Stripes covered it.

I will never watch the Olympics.
It is a considered and calculated view.

Do as you wish.

 

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I will never watch the Olympics.
It is a considered and calculated view.

Do as you wish.

Thanx

 

[DGS49]

One of the fun things about baseball scouting is that not every important trait is commonly measured...though they try to look at everything now.

Every once in a while someone discovers a statistical analysis that reveals the potential for higher level performance than expected. This was the essence of the "money ball" thing, eh? Now everybody focuses on OPS, a statistic that makes absolutely no sense.