June 29th Stock Market Update and Outlook

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DOW Friday Closing Price - 43819
SPX Friday Closing Price - 6173
NASDAQ Friday Closing Price - 22534
RUT Friday Closing Price - 2171

The SPX and the NASDAQ made new all-time highs this week after China signed a tariff deal with the U.S., tension between Israel and Iran eased, dovish Fedspeak, and some corporate earnings coming in higher than expected. On the negative side "but ignored by the traders", GDP was revised downward, showing that the economy contracted at an annualized rate of 5% (instead of the previous estimate at 2%), inflation moved slightly higher (increased by .1%), personal income came in lower than expected (first decrease since 2021), and Canada cancelling trade/tariff talks with the U.S.

The negative reports came in later in the week and with the NASDAQ having made a new all-time intraweek and daily closing on Wednesday and the AI industry getting additional positive news, momentum was on the side of the bulls and the negatives were ignored. All indexes closed near the highs of the week and further upside above last week's highs (DOW at 43966, SPX at 6187, NASDAQ at 22603, and RUT at 2189) are expected to be seen this week.

This week, two of the most important reports of the month come out, with the ISM Index report coming out on Tuesday (expected to be 48.3%) and the Jobs report on Friday (expected to be 127k). Both of these reports are expected to show that Manufacturing remains in a contraction scenario (under 50%) and that Jobs remain healthy but at a more moderate pace than May. Lower than expected reports would bring in selling interest.

As of right now, the bulls are in control, but the fundamentals do not "clearly" support higher prices. In looking at the SPX fundamental projections at the beginning of the year were for the index to go as high as 7100 with the median estimate being 6400, Now analysts are saying 6600 is the highest it could go to but now many saying that 5200 could be seen with 6000 being the median estimate. With the index closing at 6173 on Friday, it is evident there is more downside that upside likely to be seen the rest of the year.

As far as what the charts say, it is also evident that neither the SPX nor the NASDAQ can be used right now to predict what levels can be reached where automatic selling is seen, given that there are no resistance levels above (new all-time highs). As such, it is the DOW that is the important index as far as resistance levels above. On an intraweek basis, there is minor resistance at 44033 and then stronger at 44486. On a daily closing basis, the 44303 is a short-term indicative resistance, which if broken would signal higher prices with new all-time highs being probable. With the index closing at 43819 on Friday, another 484 point gain could be seen this week.

As far as the SPX and the NASDAQ are concerned, the previous all-time highs are what is important. In the SPX the previous all-time high daily close is at 6144 and the weekly one is at 6114. A close below both of them would be a signal that the top to the rally has been found. In the NASDAQ, those same levels are at 22175 and 22114. It is clearly evident that of both of these indexes, the latter is more indicative as this rally has been driven mainly by the Tech Industry.

As of today, there is nothing that is dependable as this market has recently rallied more on emotion, and daily news about Trump's actions, than on tangible fundamental facts. Having said that, generally and historically the summer months have been negative to the market with earnings and growth being slow. July starts on Tuesday and common sense (with all of the above considered), suggesting that the likelihood of this particular run up continuing is low. In addition, and probably as important as the economic news, there is very little more that Trump can say or do at this time, that would give the bulls new ammunition. The opposite is actually more likely.
 
The SPX and the NASDAQ made new all-time highs

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DOW Friday Closing Price - 43819
SPX Friday Closing Price - 6173
NASDAQ Friday Closing Price - 22534
RUT Friday Closing Price - 2171

The SPX and the NASDAQ made new all-time highs this week after China signed a tariff deal with the U.S., tension between Israel and Iran eased, dovish Fedspeak, and some corporate earnings coming in higher than expected. On the negative side "but ignored by the traders", GDP was revised downward, showing that the economy contracted at an annualized rate of 5% (instead of the previous estimate at 2%), inflation moved slightly higher (increased by .1%), personal income came in lower than expected (first decrease since 2021), and Canada cancelling trade/tariff talks with the U.S.

The negative reports came in later in the week and with the NASDAQ having made a new all-time intraweek and daily closing on Wednesday and the AI industry getting additional positive news, momentum was on the side of the bulls and the negatives were ignored. All indexes closed near the highs of the week and further upside above last week's highs (DOW at 43966, SPX at 6187, NASDAQ at 22603, and RUT at 2189) are expected to be seen this week.

This week, two of the most important reports of the month come out, with the ISM Index report coming out on Tuesday (expected to be 48.3%) and the Jobs report on Friday (expected to be 127k). Both of these reports are expected to show that Manufacturing remains in a contraction scenario (under 50%) and that Jobs remain healthy but at a more moderate pace than May. Lower than expected reports would bring in selling interest.

As of right now, the bulls are in control, but the fundamentals do not "clearly" support higher prices. In looking at the SPX fundamental projections at the beginning of the year were for the index to go as high as 7100 with the median estimate being 6400, Now analysts are saying 6600 is the highest it could go to but now many saying that 5200 could be seen with 6000 being the median estimate. With the index closing at 6173 on Friday, it is evident there is more downside that upside likely to be seen the rest of the year.

As far as what the charts say, it is also evident that neither the SPX nor the NASDAQ can be used right now to predict what levels can be reached where automatic selling is seen, given that there are no resistance levels above (new all-time highs). As such, it is the DOW that is the important index as far as resistance levels above. On an intraweek basis, there is minor resistance at 44033 and then stronger at 44486. On a daily closing basis, the 44303 is a short-term indicative resistance, which if broken would signal higher prices with new all-time highs being probable. With the index closing at 43819 on Friday, another 484 point gain could be seen this week.

As far as the SPX and the NASDAQ are concerned, the previous all-time highs are what is important. In the SPX the previous all-time high daily close is at 6144 and the weekly one is at 6114. A close below both of them would be a signal that the top to the rally has been found. In the NASDAQ, those same levels are at 22175 and 22114. It is clearly evident that of both of these indexes, the latter is more indicative as this rally has been driven mainly by the Tech Industry.

As of today, there is nothing that is dependable as this market has recently rallied more on emotion, and daily news about Trump's actions, than on tangible fundamental facts. Having said that, generally and historically the summer months have been negative to the market with earnings and growth being slow. July starts on Tuesday and common sense (with all of the above considered), suggesting that the likelihood of this particular run up continuing is low. In addition, and probably as important as the economic news, there is very little more that Trump can say or do at this time, that would give the bulls new ammunition. The opposite is actually more likely.
Oh look, The Diddley Squat [TDS] report is out. :bigbed: :abgg2q.jpg:
 
The market cannot determine the main street economy.
It does not determine it but it is a good evaluator of what is LIKELY to happen.

We all need probability evaluations to determine what we should do. Do you not agree?
 
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Oh look, The Diddley Squat [TDS] report is out. :bigbed: :abgg2q.jpg:
Evidently you are not a trader given that you made such a disinformed comment.

With 70% of all trading in the stock market done by Computers and algorithms, traders and investors value knowing what levels will stimulate them to buy or sell.

Your comment shows that knowledgeable information is not something you value. I am not at all surprised, given your track record of postings.
 
You cannot offer data to correlate that, I don't think.

But go ahead and convince me.
It does not determine it but it is a good evaluator of what is LIKELY to happen.

We all need probability evaluations to determine what we should do. Do you not agree?
 
GDP is calculated by measuring total consumption MINUS IMPORTS. The domestic economy actually grew by 2% but imports surged in anticipation of tariffs, thus creating this misleading statistic.

Copilot

As of the latest data, the U.S. economy contracted by 0.5% (annualized rate) in the first quarter of 2025 (January through March)

This marks the first quarterly decline in GDP in three years.

Key contributing factors:​

  • Tariff uncertainty: Businesses and consumers rushed to import goods before new tariffs took effect, leading to a surge in imports, which negatively impacted GDP calculations.
  • Consumer spending: Growth slowed significantly to just 0.5%, down from 4% in the previous quarter.
  • Government spending: Declined, contributing to the overall contraction.
  • Real final sales to private domestic purchasers (a measure of underlying economic strength) still grew at 1.9%, suggesting some resilience despite the headline contraction
 
You cannot offer data to correlate that, I don't think.

But go ahead and convince me.
AI overview

Economists evaluate the economy by examining various
economic indicators. These indicators are data points, often macroeconomic in scale, that help economists understand the current state of an economy and predict future trends.
Commonly used economic indicators include:
  • Gross Domestic Product (GDP): Measures the total value of goods and services produced within a country in a given year. It's often used as an indicator of overall economic health.
  • Unemployment Rate: The percentage of the labor force that is unemployed.
  • Inflation: Measures the rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, leading to a decrease in purchasing power.
  • Interest Rates: The cost of borrowing money. They impact spending and investment decisions by consumers and businesses.
  • Consumer Price Index (CPI): Measures the average change in prices over time of a basket of consumer goods and services.
  • Consumer Confidence: Measures consumer sentiment about the economy, which can influence spending and saving behaviors.
Why economists think the way they do is influenced by several factors:
  • Economic Schools of Thought: Economists often adhere to different schools of thought, each with its own perspective on how the economy functions and what policies are most effective. Investopedia explains that major schools include Keynesian economics and free-market economics.
  • Interpretation of Data: Analyzing economic data can be subjective, leading to differing interpretations and conclusions among economists.
  • Emphasis on Different Factors: Economists may weigh the importance of certain economic indicators or factors differently when making forecasts or evaluating the economy. For example, one economist might prioritize unemployment data while another focuses on inflation figures.
  • Unexpected Events: External "X" factors, like natural disasters or pandemics, can significantly impact the economy and disrupt economic theories and forecasts.
  • Ideology and Political Beliefs: An economist's ideological stance can influence their views on economic policy and how they evaluate the economy. According to The University of Chicago Press: Journals, ideology and partisan loyalties can influence economic beliefs.
  • Limitations of Economic Models: Economic models are simplified representations of the real world and have limitations, which economists need to be aware of when using them to analyze the economy.
In conclusion, economists utilize various economic indicators to assess the health and performance of the economy. Their interpretations and perspectives are shaped by their adherence to different economic schools of thought, how they interpret economic data, the weight they give to different economic factors, the influence of unexpected events, and their own ideologies and political beliefs.

Bottom line, they have their thinking/evaluating based on experience, knowledge, understanding of basic factors, studies, data, statistics and history.

As such, they have a better probability of being right than you do, or that anyone with simple personal beliefs does.
 
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GDP is calculated by measuring total consumption MINUS IMPORTS. The domestic economy actually grew by 2% but imports surged in anticipation of tariffs, thus creating this misleading statistic.
At the beginning of the year, economists (due to Trump's promise of tax cuts that always stimulate growth at first) thought that GDP growth would be 5%. Now they believe it is going to be 2%. The latter is what is happening as:

The current year-over-year rate for real GDP is at 1.99%, the lowest since Q4 2022, according to Advisor Perspectives.

As far as comparing Trump to other presidents, here is a chart that shows the statistics

GDPbypresident.webp
 
AI overview

Economists evaluate the economy by examining various
economic indicators. These indicators are data points, often macroeconomic in scale, that help economists understand the current state of an economy and predict future trends.
Commonly used economic indicators include:
  • Gross Domestic Product (GDP): Measures the total value of goods and services produced within a country in a given year. It's often used as an indicator of overall economic health.
  • Unemployment Rate: The percentage of the labor force that is unemployed.
  • Inflation: Measures the rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, leading to a decrease in purchasing power.
  • Interest Rates: The cost of borrowing money. They impact spending and investment decisions by consumers and businesses.
  • Consumer Price Index (CPI): Measures the average change in prices over time of a basket of consumer goods and services.
  • Consumer Confidence: Measures consumer sentiment about the economy, which can influence spending and saving behaviors.
Why economists think the way they do is influenced by several factors:
  • Economic Schools of Thought: Economists often adhere to different schools of thought, each with its own perspective on how the economy functions and what policies are most effective. Investopedia explains that major schools include Keynesian economics and free-market economics.
  • Interpretation of Data: Analyzing economic data can be subjective, leading to differing interpretations and conclusions among economists.
  • Emphasis on Different Factors: Economists may weigh the importance of certain economic indicators or factors differently when making forecasts or evaluating the economy. For example, one economist might prioritize unemployment data while another focuses on inflation figures.
  • Unexpected Events: External "X" factors, like natural disasters or pandemics, can significantly impact the economy and disrupt economic theories and forecasts.
  • Ideology and Political Beliefs: An economist's ideological stance can influence their views on economic policy and how they evaluate the economy. According to The University of Chicago Press: Journals, ideology and partisan loyalties can influence economic beliefs.
  • Limitations of Economic Models: Economic models are simplified representations of the real world and have limitations, which economists need to be aware of when using them to analyze the economy.
In conclusion, economists utilize various economic indicators to assess the health and performance of the economy. Their interpretations and perspectives are shaped by their adherence to different economic schools of thought, how they interpret economic data, the weight they give to different economic factors, the influence of unexpected events, and their own ideologies and political beliefs.

Bottom line, they have their thinking/evaluating based on experience, knowledge, understanding of basic factors, studies, data, statistics and history.

As such, they have a better probability of being right than you do, or that anyone with simple personal beliefs does.
So many, so many various things are used. Thank you. I do all of that too, and I do it well. My portfolio and where I began proves that.
 
DOW Friday Closing Price - 43819
SPX Friday Closing Price - 6173
NASDAQ Friday Closing Price - 22534
RUT Friday Closing Price - 2171

The SPX and the NASDAQ made new all-time highs this week after China signed a tariff deal with the U.S., tension between Israel and Iran eased, dovish Fedspeak, and some corporate earnings coming in higher than expected. On the negative side "but ignored by the traders", GDP was revised downward, showing that the economy contracted at an annualized rate of 5% (instead of the previous estimate at 2%), inflation moved slightly higher (increased by .1%), personal income came in lower than expected (first decrease since 2021), and Canada cancelling trade/tariff talks with the U.S.

The negative reports came in later in the week and with the NASDAQ having made a new all-time intraweek and daily closing on Wednesday and the AI industry getting additional positive news, momentum was on the side of the bulls and the negatives were ignored. All indexes closed near the highs of the week and further upside above last week's highs (DOW at 43966, SPX at 6187, NASDAQ at 22603, and RUT at 2189) are expected to be seen this week.

This week, two of the most important reports of the month come out, with the ISM Index report coming out on Tuesday (expected to be 48.3%) and the Jobs report on Friday (expected to be 127k). Both of these reports are expected to show that Manufacturing remains in a contraction scenario (under 50%) and that Jobs remain healthy but at a more moderate pace than May. Lower than expected reports would bring in selling interest.

As of right now, the bulls are in control, but the fundamentals do not "clearly" support higher prices. In looking at the SPX fundamental projections at the beginning of the year were for the index to go as high as 7100 with the median estimate being 6400, Now analysts are saying 6600 is the highest it could go to but now many saying that 5200 could be seen with 6000 being the median estimate. With the index closing at 6173 on Friday, it is evident there is more downside that upside likely to be seen the rest of the year.

As far as what the charts say, it is also evident that neither the SPX nor the NASDAQ can be used right now to predict what levels can be reached where automatic selling is seen, given that there are no resistance levels above (new all-time highs). As such, it is the DOW that is the important index as far as resistance levels above. On an intraweek basis, there is minor resistance at 44033 and then stronger at 44486. On a daily closing basis, the 44303 is a short-term indicative resistance, which if broken would signal higher prices with new all-time highs being probable. With the index closing at 43819 on Friday, another 484 point gain could be seen this week.

As far as the SPX and the NASDAQ are concerned, the previous all-time highs are what is important. In the SPX the previous all-time high daily close is at 6144 and the weekly one is at 6114. A close below both of them would be a signal that the top to the rally has been found. In the NASDAQ, those same levels are at 22175 and 22114. It is clearly evident that of both of these indexes, the latter is more indicative as this rally has been driven mainly by the Tech Industry.

As of today, there is nothing that is dependable as this market has recently rallied more on emotion, and daily news about Trump's actions, than on tangible fundamental facts. Having said that, generally and historically the summer months have been negative to the market with earnings and growth being slow. July starts on Tuesday and common sense (with all of the above considered), suggesting that the likelihood of this particular run up continuing is low. In addition, and probably as important as the economic news, there is very little more that Trump can say or do at this time, that would give the bulls new ammunition. The opposite is actually more likely.
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At the beginning of the year, economists (due to Trump's promise of tax cuts that always stimulate growth at first) thought that GDP growth would be 5%. Now they believe it is going to be 2%. The latter is what is happening as:

The current year-over-year rate for real GDP is at 1.99%, the lowest since Q4 2022, according to Advisor Perspectives.

As far as comparing Trump to other presidents, here is a chart that shows the statistics

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You cannot offer data to correlate that, I don't think.

But go ahead and convince me.
go short NVDA is you think that you cannot rely on the evaluations of economists. Most (if not all) economists are saying that AI (with NVDA being the key stock among them) will lead the way.
 
go short NVDA is you think that you cannot rely on the evaluations of economists. Most (if not all) economists are saying that AI (with NVDA being the key stock among them) will lead the way.
That is a process that will lead to undetermined products.

Not all of them will be good for us.
 
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It will take time to right the ship without massiive GOVT jobs and GOVT spending, the Obiden method.

Real sustainable growth in the private sector produces wealth, not consuming it.
 
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