While leftists have no solutions, no plans for anything and simply fall to the floor in feet-stomping tantrums as their protected criminal class is deported, it falls to republicans to provide meaningful options.
Judge "orders" Trump Administration to stop arresting people in California
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There are many "whistleblowers" out there, such as the ACLU, who selectively defend civil liberties.
They only took this case because it aligned with their goals, not for any concern for civil liberty. If they were concerned with that, they wouldn't have touched these people with a ten-foot pole.
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As a condition of driving on our roads, a driver is required to show a license and registration. You are not required to show citizenship and no passengers are required to show ID.
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Based on Supreme Court precedent, there is no general requirement to carry identification or identify oneself to law enforcement unless there is reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
Kolender v. Lawson (1983): This case dealt with a California law requiring "loiterers" or "wanderers" to provide "credible and reliable" identification when requested by a peace officer.
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Because illegals surround themselves with similar people, that provides reasonable suspicion, and could lead to arrests of other illegals in their vicinity.
Guilt by association? Sure, if you want to go with that.
Not very familiar with tactics, are you?
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Then why are people required to show ID in traffic stops? Buying alcohol and spirits? Purchasing firearms? Vehicles?
Sorry, that case doesn't hold up. If an illegal is breaking the law, the cops will ask for their ID. If it's a traffic stop, they need an ID.
That’s a terrible attempt at comparison. Driving is a privilege. Illegally crossing the border is not,
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What do you call newsom lying about the raid on the pot farm? Then we find out there were child slaves working there? That's the lies you loons are spreading trying to stop the deportation of illegals.
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What part of the ruling violates the rule of law?
Probable cause is a cornerstone of our legal system
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you didnt say drivers did you?....you said we dont have to show "papers".....to late for damage control....
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Has nothing to do with needing probable cause to detain someone
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As is the Constitution. Why did democrats choose to ignore the Constitution regarding immigration law?
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This post makes very little sense and only serves to ignore and obfuscate the point I made.
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We don’t.
You still need probable cause to stop a driver and request a license.
A traffic stop for the sole purpose of checking a license is illegal
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Or is it because I don't subscribe to these emotional arguments of yours?
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Rightwinger already answered that.
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Link
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I didn't ask him. I asked you.
If you can't answer for yourself, refrain from speaking.
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