Judge "orders" Trump Administration to stop arresting people in California

[TemplarKormac]

You actually think Trump’s administration cares if they’re violating rights? We’ve seen how they feel about the constitution and people who tell the truth.

Sigh. You must be some emotional college kid or something.

It cares far more than some administrations do. But no administration cares for your rights or the Constitution perfectly.

 

[rightwinger]

Ah, so, you're going with "it's racist." How tiresome.

OK Skippy

How would you describe detaining people just because they have brown skin and speak Spanish?

 

[schmidlap]

The criteria for probable cause goes back 50 years

Driving while Black does not constitute probable cause
Neither does having brown skin and speaking Spanish

Did the blowhard ever deport all those Black immigrants he insisted were eating pet cats and dogs?

 

[TemplarKormac]

OK Skippy

How would you describe detaining people just because they have brown skin and speak Spanish?

Loaded question.

When the majority of the people here illegally are people who have brown skin and speak Spanish, it is reasonable to assume that the illegal immigrants will likely surround themselves with others who share the same characteristics.

Trend behavior.

 

[Marener]

Yes you are.

We normally refer to that as "obeying the law."

The law does not and cannot require you to assist law enforcement.

 

[Hollie]

Actually, I am protecting legal residents and their families from armed ICE raids that detain them for how they look and the language they are speaking

Actually, you are incensed that your protected class of criminal illegals has been met with a president and public which’s favors enforcement of the law and which has had enough of criminal illegal crime and exploitation of U.S. citizenry.

 

[Hollie]

The law does not and cannot require you to assist law enforcement.

However, you are criminally liable for aiding and abetting criminal activity.

Remarkable you don’t understand that.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The law does not and cannot require you to assist law enforcement.

By obeying the law, you are aiding law enforcement by not forcing them to take enforcement actions against you.

So, to obey the law is to aid law enforcement.

 

[jknowgood]

OK Skippy

How would you describe detaining people just because they have brown skin and speak Spanish?

I would call it getting rid of illegals. Just think if Biden didn't piss on our constitution and tell the world to surge our border. We wouldn't be having this problem.

 

[Marener]

Sigh. You must be some emotional college kid or something.

It cares far more than some administrations do. But no administration cares for your rights or the Constitution perfectly.

They’ve given us little reason to believe they actually care with much of the constitution, at least when it comes to their political enemies.

They gave ICE a quota for arrests. The logical consequence is that their law enforcement are going to be cutting corners, which means violating rights.

 

[meaner gene]

Yes, yes, it is. By not assisting ICE, you are helping illegals evade detention.

By NOT helping, is a new standard.
That goes well beyond where the supreme court said those taking an oath to protect and serve have to do.

 

[TemplarKormac]

By NOT helping, is a new standard.
That goes well beyond where the supreme court said those taking an oath to protect and serve have to do.

Begging your pardon?

 

[meaner gene]

Bullshit. You’re not obligated to help law enforcement.

Nor is law enforcement obligated to protect you.

Castle Rock v. Gonzales:
This landmark 2005 Supreme Court case
The Supreme Court has ruled that, generally, the police do not have a constitutional duty to protect individuals from harm. This means that while police are responsible for maintaining public order and enforcing laws, they are not legally obligated to intervene and protect every citizen from every potential danger.

 

[Hollie]

They’ve given us little reason to believe they actually care with much of the constitution, at least when it comes to their political enemies.

They gave ICE a quota for arrests. The logical consequence is that their law enforcement are going to be cutting corners, which means violating rights.

Odd you would be whining about caring for the Constitution. You far leftists were the entity spitting on the constitution with your open borders and importation of criminal illegals.

You then go on to make some really stupid claim about “logical consequences” based upon your personal and racial biases.

 

[TemplarKormac]

They’ve given us little reason to believe they actually care with much of the constitution, at least when it comes to their political enemies.

You don't do any research beyond what you're told.

The use of language akin to "they don't care about your rights" or "political enemies" tells me as much.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You said "if a cop asks to see your id ....are you not showing him your "papers"...."
I differentiated between driving and walking. You didn't.

lol....rw said we dont live in a society were we need to show papers......he didnt differentiate either....i just showed him we do have to show papers...

 

[Marener]

You don't do any research beyond what you're told.

The use of language akin to "they don't care about your rights" or "political enemies" tells me as much.

You don’t do research and actively avoid things that contradict your narrative.

Such as the whistleblower report.

 

[meaner gene]

Loaded question.

When the majority of the people here illegally are people who have brown skin and speak Spanish, it is reasonable to assume that the illegal immigrants will likely surround themselves with others who share the same characteristics.

Trend behavior.

Now you are advocating GUILT BY ASSOCIATION?

 

[rightwinger]

I would call it getting rid of illegals. Just think if Biden didn't piss on our constitution and tell the world to surge our border. We wouldn't be having this problem.

And what do you call rounding up and traumatizing a legal couple with young children based on no evidence or probable cause ?

 

[excalibur]

US District Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, an appointee of former President Joe Biden, ordered that DHS must develop guidance for officers to determine “reasonable suspicion” outside of the apparent race or ethnicity of a person, the language they speak or their accent, “presence at a particular location” such as a bus stop or “the type of work one does.”

Seems reasonable
We are not a “show me your papers” state

Another weird name that Dems keep appointing who have zero loyalty to the rule of law. Seriously, Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong?

I don't celebrtae this BS cultural diversity.

BTW, the order is worthless as is.