Jonathan Turley: Statements By Capitol Police Officer Who Killed Ashli Babbitt ‘Demolish the Two Official Reviews That Cleared Him’

[candycorn]

Strange how all of the right wing loons were all for deadly force a few years ago.

 

[Coyote]

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I think the fact that he murdered a civilian speaks for itself.

I think the fact that you don’t know what you’re talking about speaks for itself. Keep on trying though, I’m sure there is a participation trophy out there somewhere for you.

 

[otto105]

Cop Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Was Cleared of Criminal Wrongdoing Without Interview​

Cop Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Was Cleared of Criminal Wrongdoing Without Interview

Above, Lt. Michael Byrd, the officer who shot Ashli Babbitt, told NBC News he gave fair warning, but under penalty of perjury he refused to say anything to investigators. By Paul Sperry, RealClearInve

www.realclearinvestigations.com

11 Jan 2022 ~~ By Paul Sperry
When U.S. Capitol Police Lt. Michael Byrd went on “NBC Nightly News” to tell his side of shooting and killing unarmed Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt, he made a point to note he’d been investigated by several agencies and exonerated for his actions that day.
~snip~
In fact, investigators cleared Byrd of wrongdoing in the shooting without actually interviewing him about the shooting or threatening him with punishment if he did not cooperate with their criminal investigation.
“He didn’t provide any statement to [criminal] investigators and they didn’t push him to make a statement,” Babbitt family attorney Terry Roberts said in an RCI interview. “It’s astonishing how skimpy his investigative file is."

Use-of-Force Experts Skeptical​

Some use-of-force experts are skeptical Byrd did the right thing, even after watching his largely sympathetic NBC interview.
“The limited public information that exists raises serious questions about the propriety of Byrd’s decision to shoot, especially with regard to the assessment that Babbitt was an imminent threat,” said police consultants and criminologists Geoffrey Alpert, Jeff Noble and Seth Stoughton in a recent Lawfare article.
~Snip~
Unlike in a criminal investigation, there is no right to remain silent in a civil case. Wrongful-death litigation claiming negligence may hinge on whether Byrd warned Babbitt before opening fire on her.
“We have serious reservations about the propriety of the shooting,” they wrote.
Byrd, whose mouth was covered with a surgical mask, took aim outside her field of vision and fired as her head emerged through the window. Roberts compared her shooting to an “execution.”
“Killing her by shooting her at point-blank range was completely unnecessary,” he said. “This alone renders the shooting legally unjustified.”

Comment:
Can anyone one this board name one other US law enforcement officer who shot an unarmed suspect, and then remained unnamed and cleared in a secret investigation? It's truly remarkable how the very same Progressive Marxist/Socialist Commie leftists who believe police are out-of-control marauders and seek their defunding are completely content with the machinations occurring here. This was an execution; it was criminal homicide.
Michael Byrd has literally got away with the murder of a U.S. citizen on Federal property caught on camera and our government and their agencies weaponized against Americans have condoned the act.

What window was the insurrectionist emerging thru?

 

[Concerned American]

I think the fact that you don’t know what you’re talking about speaks for itself. Keep on trying though, I’m sure there is a participation trophy out there somewhere for you.

I think Jonathan Turley is much more qualified to speak on the subject of democrat government corruption and unjustified summary executions than you are. Try again.

 

[Doc7505]

False. There was an investigation. They found he acted correctly.

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The thing about murder is that unless you're found "not guilty" in a court of law by a jury of your peers, you can always be charged at a later date, especially when it's really investigated.

 

[candycorn]

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The thing about murder is that unless you're found "not guilty" in a court of law by a jury of your peers, you can always be charged at a later date, especially when it's really investigated.

Well, feel free to charge a cop with murder during a riot.... I can't wait to see the "pro-cop" republicans investigating the police actions...

Bring it on.

 

[Oldestyle]

Other views:

The barricade was being violently attacked and shattered, with Ms Babbitt vocally encouraging the destruction while loudly denigrating the uniformed police on the opposite side.

The crowd was warned to back away. Repeatedly.
A gun was brandished and pointed.
It was loudly acknowledged by Ms Babbit's cohorts beside her.
She knew it was there.
And pointed at the location of the violent breach.

Still, she persisted.
When the violent breach was finally effected she charged at the officers through that shattered breach....despite the warnings.

Babbitt, the duped political naif....paid for her foolishness with her life.


Important Takeaway:
Do not participate in a violent mob destroying police barricades in an important U.S. government building .......and then charge at the police after being warned not to......and when you know a gun is pointed at you.*




* Source: "Staying Un-shot for Dummies" by Captain Obvious.

She charged at the officers? Dude...she never even got through the door! How do you "charge" at someone from the other side of a door and a barricade?

 

[Doc7505]

Well, feel free to charge a cop with murder during a riot.... I can't wait to see the "pro-cop" republicans investigating the police actions...

Bring it on.

Believe me even cops don't like Michael Byrd and many believe it was an execution. In fact, many believe that he should have been relieved of duty when he left his gun in the Mens Bathroom. In most cases Byrd would have become a rubber gun cop in any Police force but the D.C. Police for leaving his gun in such a manner.

 

[Chillicothe]

She charged at the officers? Dude...she never even got through the door! How do you "charge" at someone from the other side of a door and a barricade?

Man-o-man, there is a sentiment here that just won't let the corpse---or the family---of Ms. Babbitt rest.
Like puppies with a chew-toy.

Look, let's saddle up one more time: Ashli is dead because of Ashli. She made a whole series of bad choices -----chose to join a violent mob breaking into the Capitol; chose to join a violent subset of that mob; chose to participate with them in their violent breaching of a barricade specifically erected to bar them from killing or kidnapping U.S. legislators; and once the barrier was breached, and despite being firmly, assertively, ordered to quit, to back away, to leave, to stop........she chose not to.

Instead, she chose to leap towards the officers who were commanding her to retreat.

At no time dd Ashli, who had taken an oath to protect America, at no time did Ashli stop, or attempt to convince her cohorts to quit their violence against the barricade. Instead, she angrily hurled epithets at the police on the other side of the barricade. Ashli did not stop when ordered. Ashli did not retreat in the face of an aimed gun held by a police officer. Instead, she leaped forward at the assembled officers on the opposite side.

Ashli is dead because of Ashli.
Let the woman.....and her family .....be at peace.

 

[candycorn]

Believe me even cops don't like Michael Byrd and many believe it was an execution. In fact, many believe that he should have been relieved of duty when he left his gun in the Mens Bathroom. In most cases Byrd would have become a rubber gun cop in any Police force but the D.C. Police for leaving his gun in such a manner.

Believe you? Now that is hilarious.

 

[Oldestyle]

Man-o-man, there is a sentiment here that just won't let the corpse---or the family---of Ms. Babbitt rest.
Like puppies with a chew-toy.

Look, let's saddle up one more time: Ashli is dead because of Ashli. She made a whole series of bad choices -----chose to join a violent mob breaking into the Capitol; chose to join a violent subset of that mob; chose to participate with them in their violent breaching of a barricade specifically erected to bar them from killing or kidnapping U.S. legislators; and once the barrier was breached, and despite being firmly, assertively, ordered to quit, to back away, to leave, to stop........she chose not to.

Instead, she chose to leap towards the officers who were commanding her to retreat.

At no time dd Ashli, who had taken an oath to protect America, at no time did Ashli stop, or attempt to convince her cohorts to quit their violence against the barricade. Instead, she angrily hurled epithets at the police on the other side of the barricade. Ashli did not stop when ordered. Ashli did not retreat in the face of an aimed gun held by a police officer. Instead, she leaped forward at the assembled officers on the opposite side.

Ashli is dead because of Ashli.
Let the woman.....and her family .....be at peace.

Did you even watch the video leading up to the shot that killed Ashli Babbitt? Nothing you just stated is even remotely close to what happened. "Assembled officers"? There was one officer and he was hiding off to the side of the door. The rest of the hallway was clear. The Capital Police in front of the doors left that post and gave the protesters free access to that doorway. The hallway was empty. It was as if the Capital Police were inviting them to break down that doorway only to have someone hiding out of sight who jumped out and shot someone at point blank range through the door! Is it now a capital offense in America to break the window in a door? If so then why weren't liberal protestors that broke windows and doors at Federal buildings all over the country shot and killed? The truth is...they weren't even kept in jail overnight!

Ashli is dead because a Capital Police officer shot her...a shooting that didn't have to happen! That group of protesters on the other side of that door hadn't hurt anyone. They politely asked the Police standing in front of the doorway to leave so they WOULDN'T get hurt! There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that group would have done anything violent once they were inside of the House Chambers. They were there to STOP something...not start something!

 

[otto105]

Believe me even cops don't like Michael Byrd and many believe it was an execution. In fact, many believe that he should have been relieved of duty when he left his gun in the Mens Bathroom. In most cases Byrd would have become a rubber gun cop in any Police force but the D.C. Police for leaving his gun in such a manner.

Why would anyone believe your lying ass doc?

 

[Doc7505]

Why would anyone believe your lying ass doc?

Michael Byrd should be forced to join the Rubber Gun Squad.

In police longo there is the term rubber gun squad. What is a rubber gun squad? - Answers

The term "Rubber Gun Squad" is police phraseology for an Officer who is stripped of his or her service weapon for his or her own safety or the safety of others, AND placed on restricted(desk) duty. It is the time span between initial suspension and termination of employment. Police Officers are...

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[otto105]

Michael Byrd should be forced to join the Rubber Gun Squad.

In police longo there is the term rubber gun squad. What is a rubber gun squad? - Answers

The term "Rubber Gun Squad" is police phraseology for an Officer who is stripped of his or her service weapon for his or her own safety or the safety of others, AND placed on restricted(desk) duty. It is the time span between initial suspension and termination of employment. Police Officers are...

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Again, stop proving people right about your ability to critically think. She was involved in a riot, she determined her fate.

 

[Concerned American]

Michael Byrd should be forced to join the Rubber Gun Squad.

In police longo there is the term rubber gun squad. What is a rubber gun squad? - Answers

The term "Rubber Gun Squad" is police phraseology for an Officer who is stripped of his or her service weapon for his or her own safety or the safety of others, AND placed on restricted(desk) duty. It is the time span between initial suspension and termination of employment. Police Officers are...

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Barney "one bullet in his pocket" Fife.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Let's not forget that Byrd previously lost his pistol in the Mens' Room of the Capitol building and he was not reprimanded or lost his job for his carelessness.

Exactly like he's been exonerated in a closed door whitewash session after murdering an unarmed Air Force veteran. Does he have something on Nancy Pelosi?
What would he have to do, theoretically, to face some sort of discipline for what he's done?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I think Jonathan Turley is much more qualified to speak on the subject of democrat government corruption and unjustified summary executions than you are. Try again.

I think ANYONE would be more qualified to speak on the Babbitt murder than a leader of our partisan
jibber jabber squad here.

And anyone that tries to defend shooting an unarmed protestor, nay, cheers for it, doesn't have an
ounce of moral authority to prop up their morally bereft idiocy.

 

[whitehall]

If the officer was cleared it should have been by a jury rather than his pals on the force.

 

[Rigby5]

What window was the insurrectionist emerging thru?

The one leading to the empty and useless Speaker's Lobby.
The one so unstrategic that the police in front of the barricade to it, had stepped aside, and the helmeted police with machineguns did not think were worth climbing the last stairs over.

 

[Rigby5]

Again, stop proving people right about your ability to critically think. She was involved in a riot, she determined her fate.

Wrong.
Riots are an essential means of political expression, and always have been.
If not for riots, we would still be a British colony and have slavery.

The fact I politically disagree with Ashli, does not at all change the need to protect the means of political expression she was using.
Anyone who shoots unarmed rioters needs to go to jail for a long time.