John Boehner and Republicans want YOU to pick up BP's Tab

[VaYank5150]

What part of where are the booms, dredging, and sand berms to protect the coast and wetlands don't you understand?

The Federal response has been far from adequate.

Perhaps you should ask the private company whose well is leaking?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

What part of where are the booms, dredging, and sand berms to protect the coast and wetlands don't you understand?

The Federal response has been far from adequate.

FACT!!!! If these dumb fuckers wanted to do something they would waive the Jones Act and allow foreign skimmers into U.S. waters to assist with the spill!!!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

What part of where are the booms, dredging, and sand berms to protect the coast and wetlands don't you understand?

The Federal response has been far from adequate.

Where in the Constitution does it say the federal government is responsible for cleaning up oil?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Uh...did you even bother to read this? He clearly said "BP and the Federal government".

Considering that the Feds have collected an 8 cent per barrel tax to cover the costs of oil spill disasters (for a cumulative amount to date of $1.5B) - why shouldn't the Feds spend some of the money collected to cover the costs of oil spills on an actual oil spill?

We have Already Picked Up The Tab - which the Feds are bogarting.

Interesting corporate welfare logic.

So the government collects taxes on we citizens, too.

If we screw up and cause an environmental disaster, should the government pay their share of our tab, too?

It's not corporate welfare logic. It's holding government accountable for fulfilling its responsibilities. If they are going to collect money for a specific purpose, that money should be used for that purpose.

Not all oil disasters are going to have some corporation to blame. What if this incident were the result of a terrorist attack?

With your logic, we should all expect to pay for ObamaCare, and not receive any services (which is what is going to happen for many people).

Hey idiot, I've already posted where the money is being made available. What is wrong with you?

 

[rdean]

What you are overlooking is this fact. The U.S. government is responsible to a degree....we gave BP the license and approved their drilling plan without an adequate back up plan for a disaster....hence...where we are today.

There's also the consideration of what is the proper role of government. Doggie the Bubble Mod often confuses conservative belief in limited government with anarchical lack of government.

It is proper for the government to deal with large scale disasters which are beyond the scope of a local / state community. The U.S. government has assets (usually military related) which can serve a dual purpose for disaster mitigation. We've paid for them - why not use them, especially when TAXES HAVE BEEN COLLECTED to cover such incidents.

What exactly should the military do to "plug the hole"?

 

[rdean]

What part of where are the booms, dredging, and sand berms to protect the coast and wetlands don't you understand?

The Federal response has been far from adequate.

What should be the "proper response"?

 

[VaYank5150]

What you are overlooking is this fact. The U.S. government is responsible to a degree....we gave BP the license and approved their drilling plan without an adequate back up plan for a disaster....hence...where we are today.

There's also the consideration of what is the proper role of government. Doggie the Bubble Mod often confuses conservative belief in limited government with anarchical lack of government.

It is proper for the government to deal with large scale disasters which are beyond the scope of a local / state community. The U.S. government has assets (usually military related) which can serve a dual purpose for disaster mitigation. We've paid for them - why not use them, especially when TAXES HAVE BEEN COLLECTED to cover such incidents.

What exactly should the military do to "plug the hole"?

Knowing the "conservatives" they will want us to drop a shitload of bombs on it. That appears to be their answer for most problems...

 

[Immanuel]

What you are overlooking is this fact. The U.S. government is responsible to a degree....we gave BP the license and approved their drilling plan without an adequate back up plan for a disaster....hence...where we are today.

There's also the consideration of what is the proper role of government. Doggie the Bubble Mod often confuses conservative belief in limited government with anarchical lack of government.

It is proper for the government to deal with large scale disasters which are beyond the scope of a local / state community. The U.S. government has assets (usually military related) which can serve a dual purpose for disaster mitigation. We've paid for them - why not use them, especially when TAXES HAVE BEEN COLLECTED to cover such incidents.

What exactly should the military do to "plug the hole"?

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Immie

 

[Jarhead]

There's also the consideration of what is the proper role of government. Doggie the Bubble Mod often confuses conservative belief in limited government with anarchical lack of government.

It is proper for the government to deal with large scale disasters which are beyond the scope of a local / state community. The U.S. government has assets (usually military related) which can serve a dual purpose for disaster mitigation. We've paid for them - why not use them, especially when TAXES HAVE BEEN COLLECTED to cover such incidents.

What exactly should the military do to "plug the hole"?

Knowing the "conservatives" they will want us to drop a shitload of bombs on it. That appears to be their answer for most problems...

Very childish post VaYank.

 

[VaYank5150]

What exactly should the military do to "plug the hole"?

Knowing the "conservatives" they will want us to drop a shitload of bombs on it. That appears to be their answer for most problems...

Very childish post VaYank.

Truth stings a little too, doesn't it, Jarhead?

 

[Jarhead]

Knowing the "conservatives" they will want us to drop a shitload of bombs on it. That appears to be their answer for most problems...

Very childish post VaYank.

Truth stings a little too, doesn't it, Jarhead?

I am not one who likes to bomb. And I am a conservative.
Bombs are a last resort, not a solution.

So no, truth does not sting. False accusations sting when stated as fact. Sort of as you did.

 

[VaYank5150]

Very childish post VaYank.

Truth stings a little too, doesn't it, Jarhead?

I am not one who likes to bomb. And I am a conservative.
Bombs are a last resort, not a solution.

So no, truth does not sting. False accusations sting when stated as fact. Sort of as you did.

Yeah...good thing Bush and Cheney weren't conservatives, eh?

 

[Jarhead]

Truth stings a little too, doesn't it, Jarhead?

I am not one who likes to bomb. And I am a conservative.
Bombs are a last resort, not a solution.

So no, truth does not sting. False accusations sting when stated as fact. Sort of as you did.

Yeah...good thing Bush and Cheney weren't conservatives, eh?

Bush a conservative?
Were you not paying attention over the 8 years of the previous administrastion?

And as for Cheney...

You know that man that killed the "right to life" protester? You know the one I am referring to. The old man sitting on his lawn chair across the street from an abortion clinic with a "right to life" sign?

The killer was a "pro choice" activist.

So should I assume all pro choice people are killers?

Back of it VaYank. Conservatives dont prefer bombs over better solutions just becuase a conservaive in the public eye was perceived to prefer bombs.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Listen........some of those idiots in Congress were actually CONSIDERING blowing a nuke in the Gulf to close the leak.

Only trouble is...........the shoreline is a scant 43 miles away, which would result in a tsunami going halfway across New Orleans.

No. Bombing the oil well is a bad idea.

 

[Zona]

What you are overlooking is this fact. The U.S. government is responsible to a degree....we gave BP the license and approved their drilling plan without an adequate back up plan for a disaster....hence...where we are today.

The government gave you a license to drive a vehicle, so if on the way to work after a late night at the tavern you plow into a group of schoolkids, the government should share the responsibility?

I knew this thread would be fertile ground to pick off pea brains...

PatekPhilippe are you for less regulations? Righty's, you lose on this one. NO more off shore drilling and more regulations for at the very least, SAFETY. Ask those miners family's.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know......in the Predictions for 2010 thread, I'd predicted something would happen halfway through the summer that was going to kick the shit out of the GOP in November.

Looks like I'm right. BP and Sarah Palin...........who knew?

 

[Jarhead]

What you are overlooking is this fact. The U.S. government is responsible to a degree....we gave BP the license and approved their drilling plan without an adequate back up plan for a disaster....hence...where we are today.

The government gave you a license to drive a vehicle, so if on the way to work after a late night at the tavern you plow into a group of schoolkids, the government should share the responsibility?

I knew this thread would be fertile ground to pick off pea brains...

PatekPhilippe are you for less regulations? Righty's, you lose on this one. NO more off shore drilling and more regulations for at the very least, SAFETY. Ask those miners family's.

Miners?
Loser.

So I guess we should stop the crab fishing off the coast of Alaska. Many men lose their lives each season.

There are many careers that come with danger. Firemen, Policemen.....CONSTRUCTION!!!!!!!!!!

But guess what. This is America. Freedom of choice. They know the dangers of their careers. They opt to take the job knowing dam well the dangers.

You fell for the "we need to make it safe" rhetoric you loser.

I bet more men die crab fishing a year than those that died in the last 50 years oil drilling.

 

[hboats]

What you are overlooking is this fact. The U.S. government is responsible to a degree....we gave BP the license and approved their drilling plan without an adequate back up plan for a disaster....hence...where we are today.

The government gave you a license to drive a vehicle, so if on the way to work after a late night at the tavern you plow into a group of schoolkids, the government should share the responsibility?

I knew this thread would be fertile ground to pick off pea brains...

PatekPhilippe are you for less regulations? Righty's, you lose on this one. NO more off shore drilling and more regulations for at the very least, SAFETY. Ask those miners family's.

Government regulations are a big part of what got us here to begin with. I'm not saying don't regulate, but don't make regulations that make it next to impossible to stop a leak like we have now. Do you honestly think that if the government hadn't regulated drilling to make it so that it has to be done in 5,000 feet of water and drilling was done in shallower water that there would be this much trouble getting the problem fixed?

How about we regulate drilling in SAFER DEPTHS? Let's regulate the hell out of drillers, but let's do in in a manageable depth so that when something goes wrong we can actually FIX THE PROBLEM.

I know that would be too simple for a liberal mind to wrap itself around.

Rick

 

[VaYank5150]

The government gave you a license to drive a vehicle, so if on the way to work after a late night at the tavern you plow into a group of schoolkids, the government should share the responsibility?

I knew this thread would be fertile ground to pick off pea brains...

PatekPhilippe are you for less regulations? Righty's, you lose on this one. NO more off shore drilling and more regulations for at the very least, SAFETY. Ask those miners family's.

Miners?
Loser.

So I guess we should stop the crab fishing off the coast of Alaska. Many men lose their lives each season.

There are many careers that come with danger. Firemen, Policemen.....CONSTRUCTION!!!!!!!!!!

But guess what. This is America. Freedom of choice. They know the dangers of their careers. They opt to take the job knowing dam well the dangers.

You fell for the "we need to make it safe" rhetoric you loser.

I bet more men die crab fishing a year than those that died in the last 50 years oil drilling.

Perhaps you simply do not understand our legal process? Negligent boat captains and/or owners are held liable and responsible for the deaths of their crews. Negligence is NOT a good thing to mix with a dangerous job.

 

[Immanuel]

Listen........some of those idiots in Congress were actually CONSIDERING blowing a nuke in the Gulf to close the leak.

Only trouble is...........the shoreline is a scant 43 miles away, which would result in a tsunami going halfway across New Orleans.

No. Bombing the oil well is a bad idea.

If they were, I have seen no such link, then I am extremely glad that they thought better of it and not only because I live near the mouth of Tampa Bay and who knows what kind of devastation such a tsunami would cause all along the gulf coast.

Note: I do remember someone on here suggesting such an attempt, but I'm not certain whether or not it was a serious suggestion.

Immie