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Yep. Talks about "Hood Rat".
Oh, I'm sorry. I should have used the proper term. "The disadvantaged people you avoid while living in your doorman building" So sorry. People you'd cross the street to avoid, but gosh darn, it was terrible that the cops frisked them, even though crime dropped on Bloomberg's watch.

And about "Mayor Buttplug from South Bendover".
Hey, it's funny. People will be saying that if he gets the nomination, and snicker. You don't want your nominee to be a joke.

Then about "Commie Bernie" doing nothing for 40 years.
Okay. What has Bernie Accomplished? Name Bernie's biggest accomplishment. I took some time on his Wiki Page, and it's mostly a list of things that he was against, some of which turned out to be bad ideas. Nothing that he actually accomplished.

It's a simple enough question.

And Bloomberg is being disqualified because "some fake Indian screeched at him for a couple of minutes".
YOu think it's no big deal that she got a job by lying about her ethnicity? Kind of an insult to the people that law was meant to help.

Running on rightarded talking points, he then moves on to talk about "shallow".
Or maybe I realize you need to know what the enemy is going to throw at you. Mike is the only guy Trump is actually scared of. They know Chief Lying Beaver and Commie Bernie can only scam so much money out of broke college students.
 
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So now billionaire businessmen are good
Not at all.

Just a realization that sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

I have two qualifications for the person I support.

1) Can that person beat Trump?
2) Can they run the country after they've beaten Trump?

Warren can't beat Trump. She'll just come off as nasty and shrill.

Bernie might be able to beat Trump, but it's pretty clear he wouldn't be able to run the country afterwards. He might also trigger a recession when Wall Street panics.
 

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Bloomberg? Not voting for either Bloomberg or Trump. Not interested in the nanny state and Bloomberg certainly is. Stop and Frisk is a problem as well even beyond the racial undertones that the democrats are most focused on. The idea itself is antithetical to freedoms.
It's fun to watch right wingers who defend cops shooting black children in the street SUDDENLY become so upset with "Stop and Frisk".
What right wingers think of it is pretty much irrelevant though. What matters is what the left thinks of it as this is the primary and they are hard against the justice system in general at the moment.

Bloomberg, IMHO, would already have this issue behind him though if he had any political acumen at all. Apologizing does not work and has not worked for a decade. What he needed to do is what you actually seem to be pointing out - stick to the numbers. His defense over the fact that he reduced crime a significant amount is drowned out from the waffling and pandering when he starts to talk about how sorry he is over how it turned out. The old tapes makes such statements look even worse as they are clearly not genuine.
 

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I didn't even include Bloomberg. Anyone who could be so completely eviscerated by Liz Warren in 3 minutes ought to go the fuck home and stay there. That said, I hope he spends a few hundred million more, jacking up Toddler Trump
Of course you didn't. Heaven forbid you actually consider a guy who is QUALIFIED.

So let's compare, shall we.

Commie Bernie. Ran a city of 42,000 people. Pretty much not even a part time job. Got elected to Congress and did nothing for 20 years. Then got elected to the Senate and did nothing for 20 years.

Mike Bloomberg. - Ran a city of 10 million people. Created a business that is worth hundreds of billions today and is a major influence on Wall Street.

But gosh, some fake Indian screeched at him for a couple of minutes and man, that totally disqualifies him.

"A Republic, if you can keep it!"

We apparently can't if we are THIS fucking shallow.
It's not that she screeched at him. It was that he stood there like a fucking idiot and had no reasonable response. Maybe he should have told her he ran a city of 10 million people - that would have shut her up.

People aren't their resumes, or we wouldn't have a serial bankrupt in the White House. Fuck Bloomberg.
 
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It's not that she screeched at him. It was that he stood there like a fucking idiot and had no reasonable response. Maybe he should have told her he ran a city of 10 million people - that would have shut her up.

People aren't their resumes, or we wouldn't have a serial bankrupt in the White House. Fuck Bloomberg.
People aren't debate club members, either.

SO let's compare. You have Chief Lying Beaver who told this story about how some broke college girl gave her the last $3.00 she had to her name.

vs.

A guy willing to put up half a billion of his own money to take on Trump.
 

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It's not that she screeched at him. It was that he stood there like a fucking idiot and had no reasonable response. Maybe he should have told her he ran a city of 10 million people - that would have shut her up.

People aren't their resumes, or we wouldn't have a serial bankrupt in the White House. Fuck Bloomberg.
People aren't debate club members, either.

SO let's compare. You have Chief Lying Beaver who told this story about how some broke college girl gave her the last $3.00 she had to her name.

vs.

A guy willing to put up half a billion of his own money to take on Trump.
Why only half a billion?
 

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It's not that she screeched at him. It was that he stood there like a fucking idiot and had no reasonable response. Maybe he should have told her he ran a city of 10 million people - that would have shut her up.

People aren't their resumes, or we wouldn't have a serial bankrupt in the White House. Fuck Bloomberg.
Oh, but the "nasty", "shrill" woman did screech at him. At least, that's what misogynistic idiots (pretend to) hear when a woman reads them the riot act. It's the oldest misogynistic trope in the books.

And, of course, people are their resumes. What else is there? And Trump's resume is one of birtherism and gloating malignancy on TV. It proved exhilarating to Trumpletons emerging from swamp and underbrush in numbers no one knew even existed.

Bloomberg's resume is slightly different.

He built a corporation at the service of Wall Street vultures for them to become even more successful predators. In this corporation the climate was one of a fraternity - misogyny, common bragging about sexual exploits, sexual assault, rape included.

He then ran NY, presided over the increased use of Stop & Frisk ("Hood Rats") humiliating millions of people of color. He also presided over a catastrophic housing shortage, exploding rents and increasing homelessness, working class folks squeezed out into hours-long commutes. Crime rates fell during Bloomberg's reign, as they did throughout the country, and crime rates continued to fall after Stop & Frisk was terminated. Of course, the racist assholes still think slamming "Hood rats" against the wall was the reason for falling crime rates. If you see in that the war of the comfortable against those at the margins, you'd be correct.

The question now is whether the core of the "resume", vulture capitalism with its common affiliation with misogyny along with war of the comfortable against those at the margins, would be the model to be applied to the U.S. of A.

Bloomberg then arrived at the most important job interview of his life - unprepared. "So what?", sayeth the Bloomie... eager to replace one over-entitled narcissistic brat with an ever richer version of the same category.
 

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It's not that she screeched at him. It was that he stood there like a fucking idiot and had no reasonable response. Maybe he should have told her he ran a city of 10 million people - that would have shut her up.

People aren't their resumes, or we wouldn't have a serial bankrupt in the White House. Fuck Bloomberg.
People aren't debate club members, either.

SO let's compare. You have Chief Lying Beaver who told this story about how some broke college girl gave her the last $3.00 she had to her name.

vs.

A guy willing to put up half a billion of his own money to take on Trump.
Trump spent 70 million in 2016. Bloomy has already spent over 7 times that amount and its February. What a waste of money. Just think about how much healthcare that would have bought for illegal Democrat voters.
 

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Sanders could not win Iowa and barely won New Hampshire, so your words about Sanders is you living with your head in the sand as usual.
Bernie got the most votes in both... that tells me he's doing fine.
He did?

Mayor Pete is still shown the winner the last time I checked, so are you lying again Joe?

Of course you are.

Also when you only win by a slim margin in the neighboring state tell me you are not Popular as those like you want Sanders to be...

South Carolina will be the real test for Sanders and can he win the Black vote and I say no and then you will just say it matter not...

Also remember this those that are registering in the Primaries and Caucuses could be Trump voters trying to throw the nomination to Sanders but you will claim that is hogwash until Trump win by a landslide!
 
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Oh, but the "nasty", "shrill" woman did screech at him. At least, that's what misogynistic idiots (pretend to) hear when a woman reads them the riot act. It's the oldest misogynistic trope in the books.
Let's not forget this shrill woman was the same one who LIED about being Native American to get a job. Then she doubled down, took a DNA test, found out she really wasn't and still claimed she was.

And, of course, people are their resumes. What else is there? And Trump's resume is one of birtherism and gloating malignancy on TV. It proved exhilarating to Trumpletons emerging from swamp and underbrush in numbers no one knew even existed.
I think you fail to understand why these folks came out. Maybe it's because white males are sick and fucking tired of being squeezed on one side by government that claims they have 'privilege' and on the other side by a corporate structure that has been working to dismantle their middle class for the last 40 years. Yes, there were some outright racists in that bunch, as Hillary pointed out in her "Basket of Deplorables" speech, but there are also people who are just tired of being crushed.

Bloomberg's resume is slightly different.

He built a corporation at the service of Wall Street vultures for them to become even more successful predators. In this corporation the climate was one of a fraternity - misogyny, common bragging about sexual exploits, sexual assault, rape included.
You mean he understood the INFORMATION AGE and built something. Wow. I know this is horrible to the guy who thinks the greatest ambition is to sit around and wait for a government check like Commie Bernie.

He then ran NY, presided over the increased use of Stop & Frisk ("Hood Rats") humiliating millions of people of color. He also presided over a catastrophic housing shortage, exploding rents and increasing homelessness, working class folks squeezed out into hours-long commutes. Crime rates fell during Bloomberg's reign, as they did throughout the country, and crime rates continued to fall after Stop & Frisk was terminated. Of course, the racist assholes still think slamming "Hood rats" against the wall was the reason for falling crime rates. If you see in that the war of the comfortable against those at the margins, you'd be correct.
I would love to see you take a walk across the west side of Chicago or the South Bronx at 2 AM without any police escort. Point was, NYC was experiencing horrific crime rates before Guliani and Bloomberg got there. The people in those communities demanded the city do something about them. They did something. (they actually did a lot of things). They worked.

Today with Commie DeBlasio, Crime rates are back up and the hood rats are dumping buckets of water on the cops.

The Truth About New York’s Rising Murder Numbers


The question now is whether the core of the "resume", vulture capitalism with its common affiliation with misogyny along with war of the comfortable against those at the margins, would be the model to be applied to the U.S. of A.
No, guy, the question is do we replace a crazy person (Trump) with another crazy person (Sanders), or do we replace a crazy person with a sane guy with a proven record of getting stuff done.

The ironic thing about the POUNDMeToo movement is that it's destroyed allies women have had in the public eye (Like poor Al Franken resigning on the word of a fucking stripper) while the guys who are going to real fucking damage like Trump couldn't care less.

Yes, yes, let's reject Bloomberg because some underacheiver was suddenly offended by guy talk in the office after she got fired for being an underperformer. And then act all shocked when RBG takes a dirt nap next year and whoever replaces her bans a woman's right to choose.

Bloomberg then arrived at the most important job interview of his life - unprepared. "So what?", sayeth the Bloomie... eager to replace one over-entitled narcissistic brat with an ever richer version of the same category.
Again, I'm not electing a president of the debate club, and the thing about this whole clusterfuck of a debate cycle is that they've managed to make NONE of these people appealing.

So we are back to where we started.

Do we nominated Chief Lying Beaver, bilking some broke college student out of her last $3.00? Um, yeah, running a shrill, nasty woman worked so well for you last time. Big Hint. Hillary LOST WHITE SUBURBAN WOMEN. The constituency you need in those swing states.

Do you run Commie Bernie? By all means. I can't wait for Trump to run commercials of Venezuelans eating their dogs.

Or do you run a guy who isn't going to panic Wall Street, who has the resources to match Trump dollar for dollar, and can make an equally good or better claim to know what he is doing with the economy?

Kind of simple, really.
 
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Tulsi Gabbard - The Kremlin needs to ask for it's money back.
Haha, you weren't bad until this
Haha... the only people who seem to Like Moscow Tulsi (She got less than 2% of the vote in Nevada) are the Right Wing Russian Bots like you.

Yet you can't seem to get away from her. You'd think she was actually popular going by the internet.
 
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He did?

Mayor Pete is still shown the winner the last time I checked, so are you lying again Joe?

Of course you are.

Also when you only win by a slim margin in the neighboring state tell me you are not Popular as those like you want Sanders to be...

South Carolina will be the real test for Sanders and can he win the Black vote and I say no and then you will just say it matter not...

Also remember this those that are registering in the Primaries and Caucuses could be Trump voters trying to throw the nomination to Sanders but you will claim that is hogwash until Trump win by a landslide!
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Bernie got 3000 more votes than Buttplug from South Bendover, but because of the arcane rules in IA, Buttplug got a whopping one more

Here, let me help you out. Here's the popular vote score. Bernie won all three.

RealClearPolitics - 2020 Democratic Popular Vote

Here's the delegate count. Bernie is leading there, too.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 — Democratic Delegate Count

So two caucuses and a primary in a neighboring state, and Commie Bernie is the leader, because the other Dems are afraid to confront him. If he takes South Carolina, it's probably over. It shouldn't be, but it is. There won't be enough time for the surviving moderates to rally the not-crazy Democrats before Super Tuesday
 

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He did?

Mayor Pete is still shown the winner the last time I checked, so are you lying again Joe?

Of course you are.

Also when you only win by a slim margin in the neighboring state tell me you are not Popular as those like you want Sanders to be...

South Carolina will be the real test for Sanders and can he win the Black vote and I say no and then you will just say it matter not...

Also remember this those that are registering in the Primaries and Caucuses could be Trump voters trying to throw the nomination to Sanders but you will claim that is hogwash until Trump win by a landslide!
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Bernie got 3000 more votes than Buttplug from South Bendover, but because of the arcane rules in IA, Buttplug got a whopping one more

Here, let me help you out. Here's the popular vote score. Bernie won all three.

RealClearPolitics - 2020 Democratic Popular Vote

Here's the delegate count. Bernie is leading there, too.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 — Democratic Delegate Count

So two caucuses and a primary in a neighboring state, and Commie Bernie is the leader, because the other Dems are afraid to confront him. If he takes South Carolina, it's probably over. It shouldn't be, but it is. There won't be enough time for the surviving moderates to rally the not-crazy Democrats before Super Tuesday
“Commie Bernie”. Thanks Republican Joe.
 

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Tulsi Gabbard - The Kremlin needs to ask for it's money back.
Haha, you weren't bad until this
Haha... the only people who seem to Like Moscow Tulsi (She got less than 2% of the vote in Nevada) are the Right Wing Russian Bots like you.

Yet you can't seem to get away from her. You'd think she was actually popular going by the internet.
Well, when the Democratic party fields the inept clown show that we have, issues are out the window. So next up would be looks. And Tulsi has them all beat.
 

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Let's not forget this shrill woman was the same one who LIED about being Native American to get a job. Then she doubled down, took a DNA test, found out she really wasn't and still claimed she was.
You know, Joe, I've had enough of your mendacity. Really.

If there is one on here outside the Trumpleton camp as singlemindedly driven by what the voices in his head tell him, and as willing to fix reality around that and to ignore parts that refuse to fit in, it would be Mac. Since you can't keep track of what these voices tell you during your fisking exercises, you are speaking movingly about the plight of the working and middle classes, "crushed" by the vultures of Wall Street. And then you end up proposing to elect a predatory Wall Street vulture to remedy that. "Simple, really." Just as do MindWars and Mac, you don't even realize how much you are falling on your red, honking nose declaring everyone not aligned with what the voices in your head tell you "crazy".

No, Senator Warren did not lie to get a job. That would just be your resentments and your misogyny talking. Hope it helped getting something out of your system.
 
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No, Senator Warren did not lie to get a job. That would just be your resentments and your misogyny talking. Hope it helped getting something out of your system.
According to Left Wing VOX.

New evidence has emerged Elizabeth Warren claimed American Indian heritage in 1986

You know, Joe, I've had enough of your mendacity. Really.

If there is one on here outside the Trumpleton camp as singlemindedly driven by what the voices in his head tell him, and as willing to fix reality around that and to ignore parts that refuse to fit in, it would be Mac.
Um, no. Mac puts people on ignore when they show him up too many times. I only put people on ignore if they are obnoxious, racist or just don't add anything to a conversation.

There are things about Chief Running Gag I agree with... but frankly, her liabilities outweigh her virtues. Same with Commie Bernie. Jesus H. Christ, today he was praising fucking CASTRO. Yup. Had any hope of taking Florida this time? Not now.

Since you can't keep track of what these voices tell you during your fisking exercises, you are speaking movingly about the plight of the working and middle classes, "crushed" by the vultures of Wall Street.
Not at all. I am a pragmatist. We are not going to EVER be rid of Wall Street. We can hem in their bad behavior, but they aren't going anywhere.

And then you end up proposing to elect a predatory Wall Street vulture to remedy that. "Simple, really."
It is simple. YOu can stand on an orthodoxy of principles and lose, or you can make compromises and win. Frankly, I'd rather have Single Payer than what Bloomie is proposing, but realistically, reforming Obamacare is probably the best we can hope for. Or we can nobly lose to Trump, and watch him dismantle what's left of it because Obama made fun of him once at the Correspondant's Dinner.

You see, I could take the attitude of "I've got mine, you are on your own." I'm white, male, straight, College educated and will always get an upper hand in job consideration because I get a veteran's preference. I am also deeply disturbed by Trump's racism, (a lot more serious than throwing some hoodlum up against the wall) his misogyny (again, a lot more serious than, He told a joke that a Feminist didn't get.)

So I can make comprimises and nominate a guy who can WIN SUBURBAN WOMEN, and other key constituencies in Swing states. or I can be a fanatic and support Commie Bernie and wonder why they want to keep their SUV's and don't want to eat their dogs.

Again- Simple, really.

Just as do MindWars and Mac, you don't even realize how much you are falling on your red, honking nose declaring everyone not aligned with what the voices in your head tell you "crazy".
Funny, I made some very clear points, all you've really come back with is "moral indignation". I'm not worried that Bloomie once joked a career chick should get an abortion (which I don't think he did).... I'm more worried that abortion will be criminalized because Trump appoints a few more troglodytes to SCOTUS.
 

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No, Senator Warren did not lie to get a job. That would just be your resentments and your misogyny talking. Hope it helped getting something out of your system.
According to Left Wing VOX.

New evidence has emerged Elizabeth Warren claimed American Indian heritage in 1986
Warren wrote she was American Indian in a 1986 registration card she filled out for the State Bar of Texas, according to a report from the Washington Post’s Annie Linskey and Amy Gardner. Gardner tweeted out a picture of the original form. Warren filled out the card after she was admitted to the bar, the Post reported. The form says information about her ethnicity was being gathered for statistical purposes; there’s no indication it was used for professional advancement.

So, while you suggest the link demonstrates your slanderous lie is true, the link doesn't demonstrate any of it, and you ended up piling yet another lie upon the former lie. At the rate of your lying, I fail to see why you would have any problem voting for Trump. He's suffering from Munchhausen syndrome as much as you do. You just can't help yourself.

And now go fck yourself, Joe.
 

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