"Jobs Americans Won't Do"

[JoeB131]

The Nuremburg Laws? You mean “laws” that reduced Jews to a lower class of humans?

How can you expect Jews to abide by antisemitic Hitler laws, and then defend illegal aliens?

You’re a disgusting POS.

And a leftist.

Isn't that what you want to do to undocumented immigrants, deny them due process of law, revoking rights and privileges they were previously granted (revoking green cards and asylum status).

I'm the one being philosophically consistent.

It's wrong what the Nazis did to the Jews.
It's wrong what the Zionists are doing to the Palestinians
It's wrong what Trump Nazis are doing to immigrants.

Either you respect human dignity or you don't.

Stop being a flipping hypocrite.

 

[JoeB131]

What’s your point in segmenting out a small minority of Jews for condemnation, when you haven’t recognized that 1) Jews as a whole are on welfare 10x LESS than all Americans, and 2) I don’t hear you bitching about how many blacks are on welfare (which is a lot more than Jews).

Q to others: Have you noticed that leftists who did not seem to be overtly antisemitic are now spewing anti-Jew venom? Are they being paid, or have other antisemites started posting under their accounts?

Remember class, everyone who disagrees with Lisa is an anti-Semite.

Even Jews who disagree with Lisa.

 

[Delldude]

Isn't that what you want to do to undocumented immigrants, deny them due process of law,

Duh .... Joey, Obama was cool circumventing due process......why can't Trump?

The Obama administration has prioritized speed over fairness in the removal system, sacrificing individualized due process in the pursuit of record removal numbers.

A deportation system that herds 75 percent of people through fast-track, streamlined removal is a system devoid of fairness and individualized due process. Nonjudicial removals violate our constitutional tradition and cannot be reconciled with an administration that has repeatedly stated its commitment to immigration reform.


Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration | ACLU

 

[JoeB131]

Duh .... Joey, Obama was cool circumventing due process......why can't Trump?

The Obama administration has prioritized speed over fairness in the removal system, sacrificing individualized due process in the pursuit of record removal numbers.

A deportation system that herds 75 percent of people through fast-track, streamlined removal is a system devoid of fairness and individualized due process. Nonjudicial removals violate our constitutional tradition and cannot be reconciled with an administration that has repeatedly stated its commitment to immigration reform.


Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration | ACLU

You're quoting the ACLU now?

Obama gave people due process. I don't remember masked men scooping up people off the street when Obama was in office.

 

[Delldude]

You're quoting the ACLU now?

Cool precedent.......

Obama's 'Rocket Docket' Immigration Hearings Violate Due Process, Experts Say

Since 2014, almost 40,000 cases have been closed by “rocket docket” courts, which aim to expeditiously push immigration proceedings involving families with children, like Sandra Gutierrez, through the legal pipeline, according to a recent report by Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC).

Experts say 'rocket docket' immigration hearings violate due process

 

[Kondor3]

So be it?

Yep.

Gee and I thought high prices and inflation were bad things

It is the price we will pay to rid the land of 20,000,000 Illegal Aliens...

Or as many of those 20,000,000 invaders as may prove practicable.

The longer we remain addicted to low-wage job-stealing Illegal Aliens the more painful the treatment of the addiction will be.

Might as well get the pain in the rear view mirror sooner rather than later, and get this over with.

Well they were just a few months ago anyway

Then. And now. But now it will be consciously self-inflicted and will be merely a collateral effect of ejecting Illegals from US soil.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

You're quoting the ACLU now?

Obama gave people due process. I don't remember masked men scooping up people off the street when Obama was in office.

That's because Biden didn't let in 14 million in the four years before Obama took office.

 

[JoeB131]

Cool precedent.......

Obama's 'Rocket Docket' Immigration Hearings Violate Due Process, Experts Say

Since 2014, almost 40,000 cases have been closed by “rocket docket” courts, which aim to expeditiously push immigration proceedings involving families with children, like Sandra Gutierrez, through the legal pipeline, according to a recent report by Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC).

Point is, there were hearings.. They didn't spirit people out of the country and stick them in a gulag somewhere.

The way that a wingnut admits Trump fucked up..

"But, but, but... OOOOOOOOObama!"

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Yep.

It is the price we will pay to rid the land of 20,000,000 Illegal Aliens, or as many of that 20,000,000 invaders as may prove practicable.

The longer we remain addicted to low-wage job-stealing Illegal Aliens the more painful the treatment of the addiction will be.

Might as well get the pain in the rear view mirror sooner rather than later, and get this over with.


Then. And now. But now it will be consciously self-inflicted and will be merely a collateral effect of ejecting Illegals from US soil.

Nancy Pelosi said that construction sites would go fallow if we didn't let "migrants" in. They never say ILLEGAL aliens. This is how elitist they are and out of touch. They are millionaires who do little work, and citizens can't get jobs, but that is not their problem. They need to support their donors by getting cheap labor.

It used to picking crops. Then it was car washes. Then it was milking cows. Then it was showing manure. Then it was lawn mowing. The concrete. Then all trades and in all restaurants.

Work Americans won't do.

What they refuse to say is.............for $10.00 an hour.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The question, "Jobs Americans Won't Do", is vote democrat, that's why the democrats need the illegals and dead.

 

[JoeB131]

Nancy Pelosi said that construction sites would go fallow if we didn't let "migrants" in. They never say ILLEGAL aliens. This is how elitist they are and out of touch. They are millionaires who do little work, and citizens can't get jobs, but that is not their problem. They need to support their donors by getting cheap labor.

It used to picking crops. Then it was car washes. Then it was milking cows. Then it was showing manure. Then it was lawn mowing. The concrete. Then all trades and in all restaurants.

Work Americans won't do.

What they refuse to say is.............for $10.00 an hour.

I wouldn't do most of those jobs if you paid me $50.00 an hour.

Most Americans don't go to college for four years and build their resumes to milk cows or wash cars.

 

[80zephyr]

You're quoting the ACLU now?

Obama gave people due process. I don't remember masked men scooping up people off the street when Obama was in office.

Bullshit.

Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration | ACLU

www.aclu.org

 

[Paradoxical#1]

I wouldn't do most of those jobs if you paid me $50.00 an hour.

Most Americans don't go to college for four years and build their resumes to milk cows or wash cars.

Most Americans can't afford college to take 4 years of DEI outreach or Trans rights or Women's History.

 

[g5000]

The U.S. Farm Labor Shortage​

The growing career opportunities for documented immigrants have pushed operators to rely on alternative farm labor. The percentage of hired farm labor who were not legally authorized to work in the U.S. peaked at nearly 55 percent in 2001 but has since declined to roughly 42 percent.

Immigration policy reform has historically been (and will likely continue to be) a contentious subject on the political front. Unfortunately, American farmers are all too often caught in the crosshairs of this discourse.


Exactly what I have been saying for YEARS.

The labor supply is not meeting the labor demand. Farmers have no choice but to hire illegals.

We badly need immigration reform.

U.S. farm labor wages are primarily influenced by the Adverse Effect Wage Rate (AEWR) for H-2A visa workers, federal and state minimum wages, and labor market conditions. As of 2024, the AEWR varies by state, with hourly rates ranging from $14 to over $18 per hour.

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H-2A program limitations include:

• A lengthy application process requiring requests 60–75 days in advance.
• Limited long-term extensions, with a three-month waiting period to reapply.
• High costs for transportation, training, and housing.
• The Adverse Effect Wage Rate (AEWR), which often exceeds domestic wages.

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So the narrative immigrants work for slave wages and therefore steal American jobs is horseshit.

Americans simply won't do those jobs.

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[JoeB131]

Bullshit.

Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration | ACLU

www.aclu.org

The ACLU thinks Nazis should march in Skokie and murderers should go free if a cop didn't fill out the proper paperwork.

I wouldn't take them seriously on anything.

 

[JoeB131]

Most Americans can't afford college to take 4 years of DEI outreach or Trans rights or Women's History.

They can't afford it, but they still go. Funny how that works.

 

[Mac1958]

The U.S. Farm Labor Shortage​

The growing career opportunities for documented immigrants have pushed operators to rely on alternative farm labor. The percentage of hired farm labor who were not legally authorized to work in the U.S. peaked at nearly 55 percent in 2001 but has since declined to roughly 42 percent.

Immigration policy reform has historically been (and will likely continue to be) a contentious subject on the political front. Unfortunately, American farmers are all too often caught in the crosshairs of this discourse.


Exactly what I have been saying for YEARS.

The labor supply is not meeting the labor demand. Farmers have no choice but to hire illegals.

We badly need immigration reform.

U.S. farm labor wages are primarily influenced by the Adverse Effect Wage Rate (AEWR) for H-2A visa workers, federal and state minimum wages, and labor market conditions. As of 2024, the AEWR varies by state, with hourly rates ranging from $14 to over $18 per hour.

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H-2A program limitations include:

• A lengthy application process requiring requests 60–75 days in advance.
• Limited long-term extensions, with a three-month waiting period to reapply.
• High costs for transportation, training, and housing.
• The Adverse Effect Wage Rate (AEWR), which often exceeds domestic wages.

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So the narrative immigrants work for slave wages and therefore steal American jobs is horseshit.

Americans simply won't do those jobs.

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We remain stuck in zero sum thought patterns.

There are ways to make this work, but planning & implementation would require more effort than simple tribalism.

We've lost that ability. Poof. Gone.

 

[Papageorgio]

There goes another open borders shitlib jabbering point, shot down like a clay pigeon.

Scads of legal citizens flood in with resumes in hand after the ICE raid.

Another dishonest moonbat trope dies in the process: "There's no great replacement!"

A funny thing happened after ICE raided a meatpacking plant…​

But a funny thing happened in Nebraska this week that blew that tired, dusty old myth to bits. ICE raided Glenn Valley Foods, pulling off the largest worksite immigration raid in state history. Dozens of illegal workers were removed and deported on the spot.

And what happened next? Well, something the media and the left don’t want you to know…


The waiting room was jam-packed with American citizens lined up, applications in hand, eager to work. The very jobs we’re told no Americans want suddenly became hot commodities the moment the illegals were shown the door.

A funny thing happened after ICE raided a meatpacking plant... - Revolver News

Well, well, well, what do we have here?

revolver.news

That business should have been fined, the owners charged and prosecuted for violating the law. It is not totally the illegal immigrants fault. If they had no jobs in this country for illegal immigrants, they would go back to their homes.

 

[JoeB131]

That business should have been fined, the owners charged and prosecuted for violating the law. It is not totally the illegal immigrants fault. If they had no jobs in this country for illegal immigrants, they would go back to their homes.

Why should the business be fined? They did EXACTLY what the government required of them. They used E-Verify and the papers of the people they hired looked legitimate.

We could solve this problem by establishing a National ID system with a biometric database. We won't do that, of course. We will give employers insufficient tools to monitor hiring, and then complain when they hire undocumented immigrants by accident.

 

[Mac-7]

We had that, How did it work out?

Not too well I suppose