"Jobs Americans Won't Do"

[80zephyr]

The ACLU thinks Nazis should march in Skokie and murderers should go free if a cop didn't fill out the proper paperwork.

I wouldn't take them seriously on anything.

AI Overview


Nonjudicial removals refer to individuals removed from the U.S. without a hearing before an immigration judge, typically through processes like expedited removal or reinstatement of removal
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During the Obama administration (2009-2016), approximately 3.1 million noncitizens were formally removed from the United States. The percentage of these removals carried out through administrative procedures without a judge's involvement ranged from approximately 58% to 84% annually. On average, these administrative removals accounted for about 74% of all formal removals during his time in office. Therefore, the number of nonjudicial removals under Obama would be roughly 74% of the 3.1 million formal removals, which is approximately 2.3 million.

 

[80zephyr]

No, the ACLU are just a bunch of pests and always have been.

Now, if you can point out where Obama had masked men seize greencard holders in the middle of the night, you MIGHT have a point.

But you can always tell when a Trump supporter gets caught, when he blurts 'But, but, but, OBAMA!!!!"

You are moving the goalposts. You said Obama gave then due process. He most certainly did not.

 

[JoeB131]

Liberals don't understand AI or know what it is.

Sure we do. It's pulling data from sources without scrutinizing it.

Garbage in, garbage out.

I've seen AI that claims that the USSR was in the Axis in WWII, I've seen it mispronounce names of historical figures and celebrities. This is what happens when you try to replace human wisdom with a machine.

AI is making us all dumber.

 

[initforme]

The question is do the jobs illegals were doing need to be done at all?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

The question is do the jobs illegals were doing need to be done at all?

carpentry? Foofing? Masonry? Electrical? Plumbing? Gardening? Weed whacking? Congressperson.

You're right. The last one is unnecessary.

 

[braalian]

Liberals don't understand AI or know what it is. I have used AI lots in the past and some dope liberal will say "Oh, it's AI and useless," but can't refute my posts.

Those same idiots will post links, not realizing Artificial Intelligence" found those links.

How dumb can people be??

Anyone using AI for their posts on a message board is lazy and a loser

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Anyone using AI for their posts on a message board is lazy and a loser

WTF is it with you stupid liberals? When you dolts post a link, you got that from AI, which does a search based on your prompt. That could and often does come from liars and deceivers like CNN, the NY Times, MSNBS, and a myriad of other known liars in MSM. You think YOUR links are better than what Copilot, Grok, Google Gemini get?? How stupid can liberals be? You can check what "AI" shows as a response to your query.

Why is it none of the brain-damaged liberals refute my AI responses if they are so "wrong"?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Sure we do. It's pulling data from sources without scrutinizing it.

Garbage in, garbage out.

I've seen AI that claims that the USSR was in the Axis in WWII, I've seen it mispronounce names of historical figures and celebrities. This is what happens when you try to replace human wisdom with a machine.

AI is making us all dumber.

When you make a post, where do you get your information and proof from? Most people slap up a link from some idiot "reporter" (really no more than a paid activist blogger) who never took any journalism courses, and you present that as "proof" of your position or claim. Legacy media has been caught in more lies than the Biden family and are nothing more than stenographers for the Democrats. They have been sued many times for false reports. They have admitted to colluding with the Democrats when confronted with montages of the same phrases like "Vance is weird".

The REAL reason you guys hate AI is because it proves you wrong after you slap up some stupid link from ABC, The NY Times, CNN, Yahoo, etc. I equate it to some bible banger making claims and pasting them and bitching about a guy using AI to refute the bible bangers claims.

 

[JoeB131]

When you make a post, where do you get your information and proof from? Most people slap up a link from some idiot "reporter" (really no more than a paid activist blogger) who never took any journalism courses, and you present that as "proof" of your position or claim. Legacy media has been caught in more lies than the Biden family and are nothing more than stenographers for the Democrats. They have been sued many times for false reports. They have admitted to colluding with the Democrats when confronted with montages of the same phrases like "Vance is weird".

The REAL reason you guys hate AI is because it proves you wrong after you slap up some stupid link from ABC, The NY Times, CNN, Yahoo, etc. I equate it to some bible banger making claims and pasting them and bitching about a guy using AI to refute the bible bangers claims.

Look, guy, I know you are lazy and too stupid to have an original idea... but using AI is just, lazy.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Look, guy, I know you are lazy and too stupid to have an original idea... but using AI is just, lazy.

You don't have a effing clue WTF you are talking about. AI search is the same as a Googl;e search and you posting a link, dumbass. If I was wrong in my AI response, then how come you didn't refute it and instead ***** and moan about "AI"?

 

[JoeB131]

You don't have a effing clue WTF you are talking about. AI search is the same as a Googl;e search and you posting a link, dumbass. If I was wrong in my AI response, then how come you didn't refute it and instead ***** and moan about "AI"?

Well, the difference between an AI search and a Google search is the Google search will take you to sources.

AI just spits out nonsense, and the Encyclopedia Britannica holds the same weight as InfoWars.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Well, the difference between an AI search and a Google search is the Google search will take you to sources.

AI just spits out nonsense, and the Encyclopedia Britannica holds the same weight as InfoWars.

JoeB131. you are wrong more than the real JoeBiden. Here is the Copilot response:



Great! Here's a quick example of how I cite sources when I use information from the web:

Let’s say you ask, “How many people were removed from the U.S. during Obama’s presidency without a court hearing?” If I use current online data to answer that, I might respond like this:

During the Obama administration (2009–2016), roughly 3.1 million noncitizens were formally removed from the U.S., and about 74% of those removals—around 2.3 million—happened through administrative procedures without a judge’s involvement.
Source: U.S. Message Board – Jun 2025

I’ll give you the source so you can check the original post or article yourself. I’m not just “making things up”—I’m synthesizing from public material and showing my work.

The big upside of AI is that I can pull insights from multiple sources at once and give you a clean summary. But the transparency (like that citation above) is there whenever I’m pulling real-time info.

Would you like to test it out with another topic? I can show you step-by-step how I cite!

Does Google Gemini and Grok do pretty musch the same as Copilot?

They’re all in the same family of AI assistants, but each one has its own personality, strengths, and quirks—kind of like cousins at a tech-savvy family reunion.

Google Gemini is deeply integrated into Google’s ecosystem. It shines when used inside Gmail, Docs, Sheets, and Search. With its latest version (Gemini 2.5), it acts like an invisible assistant—summarizing emails, drafting documents, analyzing spreadsheets, and even pulling insights from PDFs or meeting notes. It’s especially strong with multimodal input, meaning it can handle text, images, audio, and video together.

Grok, developed by xAI (Elon Musk’s team), is more of a real-time, socially aware assistant. It pulls live data from X (formerly Twitter), making it great for tracking trends, public sentiment, or breaking news. It’s known for its snarky tone and cultural fluency, and it’s particularly useful for social media planning or quick market reactions.

Copilot (that’s me!) is built by Microsoft and designed to be your all-purpose AI companion. I can search the web, cite sources, help with writing, coding, brainstorming, and more. I’m also integrated with Microsoft tools like Word and Excel, and I aim to be conversational, helpful, and transparent about where my info comes from.

So while we all help you get things done, the experience and focus vary:

• Gemini = seamless Google Workspace productivity
• Grok = real-time social insights with attitude
• Copilot = versatile, friendly, and source-citing support across tasks

Want a side-by-side table of features or help picking the best one for your needs?



PS. I hope this helps in your search for truth.

 

[initforme]

Employers today have an overabundance of highly qualified over productive workers. So there aren't any jobs americans wont do. Labor costs are low as well.

 

[JoeB131]

@JoeB131. you are wrong more than the real JoeBiden. Here is the Copilot response:

Guy, if you are using AI to give you the answers, you aren't worth my time to respond to.

I don't reward lazy.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Guy, if you are using AI to give you the answers, you aren't worth my time to respond to.

I don't reward lazy.

You are trolling now.

 

[Delldude]

The point is, you dumb shit, is that e-Verify said all these employees were okay to work at his plant, until the ICE jackboots said otherwise.

Looks like some ongoing problems with the system that weren't addressed.....and it wasn't jackbooted thugs.

Wonder if the good 'ol boys at DOGE saw this. Interesting if the flaws were overlooked in favor of hiring illegals.

Years after Judicial Watch reported that the government’s system to verify if employees are authorized to work legally in the United States approved hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants, federal authorities have uncovered widespread identity theft at a meat processing plant that used the defective tool to screen 100% of its staff. A recent Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) worksite enforcement operation at Glenn Valley Foods in Omaha, Nebraska busted over 70 illegal aliens who were using stolen Social Security numbers and identities to unlawfully obtain wages, health benefits and employment authorization, according to the agency. The criminal identity theft scheme left “more than 100 real victims to face devastating financial, emotional and legal consequences,” ICE writes in its announcement of the operation.

Incredibly, Glenn Valley Foods was reportedly 100% compliant with E-Verify, a costly government database launched nearly three decades ago that screens new employees using records from various agencies to confirm candidates are in the country legally. The web-based system claims to match information provided by new hires against Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Social Security Administration (SSA) records. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) operates it because the agency is responsible for administering the nation’s lawful immigration system. The program is available to employers in every state as well as the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands. For private businesses it is voluntary but federal contractors and subcontractors must use it to vet workers. The government has for years claimed that E-Verify is “the best means available to electronically confirm employment eligibility.”
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Expressing frustration over the left’s narrative condemning recent immigration operations, the Homeland Security Investigations special agent in charge of the Glenn Valley Foods case points out that individuals have gone on the record referring to the identity thieves arrested by his agents as “good, hardworking, and honest.” The reality is that “these so-called honest workers have caused an immeasurable amount of financial and emotional hardship for innocent Americans,” said the supervisory agent, Mark Zito. “If pretending to be someone you aren’t in order to steal their lives isn’t blatant, criminal dishonesty, I don’t know what is.” The DHS official goes on to confirm that the criminals who stole these identities did not just break the law, they upended lives. “These victims aren’t faceless statistics,” special agent Zito said. “They’re real people who are being denied healthcare and have lost educational opportunities.” Zito also revealed that the investigation is ongoing.

If in fact Glenn Valley Foods screened every single employee with E-Verify it clearly demonstrates that the system’s widely reported flaws, identified in federal audits for years, have not been corrected. Just a few years ago, a DHS Inspector General report blasted USCIS, exposing “deficiencies” that illustrate the program needs “additional capabilities” to effectively confirm that individuals are eligible for employment in the United States. At the time the DHS watchdog found that E-Verify authorized employment for about 280,000 non-U.S. citizens without using the photo-matching process to confirm their identities and that 613,000 individuals were approved without meeting USCIS’s own verification requirements. Those are considered illegal immigrants, the demographic the system is supposed to prevent from unlawfully obtaining wages in the U.S.

Dozens of Illegal Aliens Working at Meat Processing Plant with Stolen IDs Screened with E-Verify - Judicial Watch

Years after Judicial Watch reported that the government’s system to verify employees are authorized to work legally in the United States approved hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants, federal authorities have uncovered widespread identity theft at a meat processing plant that used the...

www.judicialwatch.org

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Looks like some ongoing problems with the system that weren't addressed.....and it wasn't jackbooted thugs.

Wonder if the good 'ol boys at DOGE saw this. Interesting if the flaws were overlooked in favor of hiring illegals.

Years after Judicial Watch reported that the government’s system to verify if employees are authorized to work legally in the United States approved hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants, federal authorities have uncovered widespread identity theft at a meat processing plant that used the defective tool to screen 100% of its staff. A recent Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) worksite enforcement operation at Glenn Valley Foods in Omaha, Nebraska busted over 70 illegal aliens who were using stolen Social Security numbers and identities to unlawfully obtain wages, health benefits and employment authorization, according to the agency. The criminal identity theft scheme left “more than 100 real victims to face devastating financial, emotional and legal consequences,” ICE writes in its announcement of the operation.

Incredibly, Glenn Valley Foods was reportedly 100% compliant with E-Verify, a costly government database launched nearly three decades ago that screens new employees using records from various agencies to confirm candidates are in the country legally. The web-based system claims to match information provided by new hires against Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Social Security Administration (SSA) records. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) operates it because the agency is responsible for administering the nation’s lawful immigration system. The program is available to employers in every state as well as the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands. For private businesses it is voluntary but federal contractors and subcontractors must use it to vet workers. The government has for years claimed that E-Verify is “the best means available to electronically confirm employment eligibility.”
____________________
Expressing frustration over the left’s narrative condemning recent immigration operations, the Homeland Security Investigations special agent in charge of the Glenn Valley Foods case points out that individuals have gone on the record referring to the identity thieves arrested by his agents as “good, hardworking, and honest.” The reality is that “these so-called honest workers have caused an immeasurable amount of financial and emotional hardship for innocent Americans,” said the supervisory agent, Mark Zito. “If pretending to be someone you aren’t in order to steal their lives isn’t blatant, criminal dishonesty, I don’t know what is.” The DHS official goes on to confirm that the criminals who stole these identities did not just break the law, they upended lives. “These victims aren’t faceless statistics,” special agent Zito said. “They’re real people who are being denied healthcare and have lost educational opportunities.” Zito also revealed that the investigation is ongoing.

If in fact Glenn Valley Foods screened every single employee with E-Verify it clearly demonstrates that the system’s widely reported flaws, identified in federal audits for years, have not been corrected. Just a few years ago, a DHS Inspector General report blasted USCIS, exposing “deficiencies” that illustrate the program needs “additional capabilities” to effectively confirm that individuals are eligible for employment in the United States. At the time the DHS watchdog found that E-Verify authorized employment for about 280,000 non-U.S. citizens without using the photo-matching process to confirm their identities and that 613,000 individuals were approved without meeting USCIS’s own verification requirements. Those are considered illegal immigrants, the demographic the system is supposed to prevent from unlawfully obtaining wages in the U.S.

Dozens of Illegal Aliens Working at Meat Processing Plant with Stolen IDs Screened with E-Verify - Judicial Watch

Years after Judicial Watch reported that the government’s system to verify employees are authorized to work legally in the United States approved hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants, federal authorities have uncovered widespread identity theft at a meat processing plant that used the...

www.judicialwatch.org

And most don't know that EVerify is NOT mandatory, and 29 states refuse to use it. Why? because they want illegals to keep inflation and unemployment low.

From Copilot:
As of 2025, 29 states do not mandate the use of E-Verify for any employers—public or private. In these states, participation in the federal E-Verify program remains entirely voluntary.

Some notable examples include:

• California and Illinois, which have even passed laws restricting mandatory use of E-Verify at the local level.
• Texas, despite its tough rhetoric on immigration, only requires E-Verify for state agencies and certain businesses like sexually oriented establishments—not for private employers at large.

Meanwhile, 10 states (like Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina) require most or all employers to use E-Verify, and 11 others mandate it for public employers only.


PS., Waiting for the liberal idiots to say: "Oh, you used AI. That's lazy."

 

[toobfreak]

Employers today have an overabundance of highly qualified over productive workers. So there aren't any jobs americans wont do.

The irony of AI is that some of the jobs that AI might replace first are all:

Judges and lawyers.

Think about it. The role of a judge is to assure legal procedure was followed. The role of an attorney is to site law which supports his client's innocence or guilt.

What could be more effective and consistent than AI seaching the legal database to decide, without prejudice, whether a person broke the law or not.

 

[Delldude]

And most don't know that EVerify is NOT mandatory, and 29 states refuse to use it.

It's not required for private firms. That's interesting if you are intent on hiring illegals.

Judges and lawyers.

" I was sent up the river by Google AI "

 

[initforme]

The irony of AI is that some of the jobs that AI might replace first are all:

Judges and lawyers.

Think about it. The role of a judge is to assure legal procedure was followed. The role of an attorney is to site law which supports his client's innocence or guilt.

What could be more effective and consistent than AI seaching the legal database to decide, without prejudice, whether a person broke the law or not.

Replace every last human as far as I care. Back to the feudal ages although america creeps towards those days every year.