"Jobs Americans Won't Do"

[Paradoxical#1]

They can't afford it, but they still go. Funny how that works.

Less than 50% of those graduating from high school enroll in a 4-year college.

From Copliot:

When we look at all U.S. residents aged 18 to 24—not just high school graduates—about 31% were enrolled in a four-year college or university in 2022. This includes everyone in that age group, whether or not they finished high school.

To break it down:

• 39% of 18- to 24-year-olds were enrolled in any college (2-year or 4-year).
• Of those, roughly four out of five were attending a four-year institution.
• That gives us the 31% figure for four-year college enrollment among the total college-aged population.

So, while nearly half of high school grads go straight to a four-year college, the broader picture shows that less than a third of all college-aged youth are actually enrolled in one—largely because some don’t graduate from high school, delay college, or choose other paths.

So, once again, you are wrong. This has become a habit with you.

 

[Delldude]

Point is, there were hearings..

Point is you're trying to normalize Obama's actions.

'mostly peaceful deportations'....

 

[HeyNorm]

ICE had a raid at one of the poultry plants and all of the employees disappeared so they called the Unit (work release) I was was working at for help.

We were appalled at what they were paying....The Warden told them that they would have to pay real wages or there would be no help for them.

Finally they agreed to $12.00 an hour (fair at the time for that work) and they took 30 men each for two shifts....They even provided a bus to take them there and back.

I lived in a town that had the meat packing Union busted by “scabs” from south of the border.

These were good paying jobs that allowed families to flourish on the pay.

After? Pay cut to 1/3rd of what they were and the town now looks third world.

 

[HeyNorm]

So why aren’t companies- big and small- being held responsible for hiring illegals at sub-minimum wages in the first place?

Surely they’re the biggest culprit in this entire scenario. Bigger than the government. Bigger than the illegals themselves

These companies should be punished and punished harshly

But I never see the right pushing to punish them. Why?

The one referenced in the OP used e-verify. They did what they could. The workers used stolen Identities to get around it.

 

[JoeB131]

Less than 50% of those graduating from high school enroll in a 4-year college.

From Copliot:

If you are using copilot to do your thinking for you, I'm not wasting my time.

Point is you're trying to normalize Obama's actions.

Due process is normal.

Masked men rounding up people at night and shipping them off to gulags isn't.

 

[Delldude]

Due process is normal.

Evading it for speed over fairness under Obama is ok

Pretty bad when a left leaning legal group goes after one of their own.....

 

[Kondor3]

Obama gave people due process.

Mostly, quite probably... but "due process" can probably be said to take several forms... expedited variations, as well.

I don't remember masked men scooping up people off the street when Obama was in office.

Given that so many nowadays are willing to harm ICE and CBP agents and their families, anonymity is warranted...

So long as the government knows who they are and so long as they're properly trained and protected, masking is OK...

And, given the sheer size of the Illegal Alien population ( 20,000,000 or more ) on US soil, street-level take-downs are OK too...

As to "due process"... if they've been given a chance to prove legal residency status and cannot, well, that's enough "process"...

Out-they-go... fun-time's over... ...time to pour-in collaborative law enforcement, National Guard, etc.

 

[Delldude]

don't remember masked men scooping up people off the street when Obama was in office.

Because it wasn't an issue or MSM would have been all over it.

We could solve this problem by establishing a National ID system with a biometric database.

Great point......voter ID.

 

[braalian]

The one referenced in the OP used e-verify. They did what they could. The workers used stolen Identities to get around it.

They knew they were hiring illegals

 

[Delldude]

They knew they were hiring illegals

I'd bet they used e verify and the other end signed off on it.

 

[protectionist]

Any American who wants one of those jobs can get one whenever he or she wants

No illegal anywhere is preventing them from getting one of those shitty low paying jobs if they want one

and we all know it

But the companies are preventing them from getting one, by paying substandard wages.

 

[protectionist]

Let us know how many last more than a month.

List 3 occupations that are so tough, dirty, and/or dangerous that Americans wouldn't last a month. Your move.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

If you are using copilot to do your thinking for you, I'm not wasting my time.



Due process is normal.

Masked men rounding up people at night and shipping them off to gulags isn't.

I had this same discussion with extreme leftists on another site. Copilot and others like Google Gemini and Grok (the best) get their data from a search. Just like someone would insert a search prompt on a Google browser and come up with several links.

Where do you get your data? Pull it out of your behind?

 

[HeyNorm]

They knew they were hiring illegals

Nope, they didn’t. Sorry

 

[JoeB131]

Evading it for speed over fairness under Obama is ok

Pretty bad when a left leaning legal group goes after one of their own.....

No, the ACLU are just a bunch of pests and always have been.

Now, if you can point out where Obama had masked men seize greencard holders in the middle of the night, you MIGHT have a point.

But you can always tell when a Trump supporter gets caught, when he blurts 'But, but, but, OBAMA!!!!"

 

[JoeB131]

I had this same discussion with extreme leftists on another site.

When you are smart enough to compose your own answers, get back to me.

AI is full of crap.

 

[Delldude]

Now, if you can point out where Obama had masked men seize greencard holders in the middle of the night, you MIGHT have a point.

Point is MSM didn't see anything wrong or they would have gone full blown Trump.

So you're trying to say the illegals waltzed up and said here I am?

Oh look, sounds like Trump:

While large-scale raids on workplaces were stopped, there were still instances of on-site operations and arrests. It is important to note that home raids during the Obama administration were reported to have led to the detention and deportation of immigrants who were not "criminal" or "fugitive" aliens, which are referred to as "collateral arrests". Some immigrant advocates criticized these actions for causing fear and disruption in communities.

 

[JoeB131]

Point is MSM didn't see anything wrong or they would have gone full blown Trump.

Because it wasn't anywhere near the same thing.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

When you are smart enough to compose your own answers, get back to me.

AI is full of crap.

Liberals don't understand AI or know what it is. I have used AI lots in the past and some dope liberal will say "Oh, it's AI and useless," but can't refute my posts.

Those same idiots will post links, not realizing Artificial Intelligence" found those links.

How dumb can people be??

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Point is MSM didn't see anything wrong or they would have gone full blown Trump.

So you're trying to say the illegals waltzed up and said here I am?

Oh look, sounds like Trump:

While large-scale raids on workplaces were stopped, there were still instances of on-site operations and arrests. It is important to note that home raids during the Obama administration were reported to have led to the detention and deportation of immigrants who were not "criminal" or "fugitive" aliens, which are referred to as "collateral arrests". Some immigrant advocates criticized these actions for causing fear and disruption in communities.

The libs can't respond. They have no facts. Only emotions.