JFK and the Unspeakable

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Read it... great book.

Case Closed is a great book. However, it's only for people that truly want to know the truth -- which excludes nutjobs like "9/11 inside job" and his little conspiracy buddies.

These conspiracy idiots wouldn't believe Oswald committed the assassination all by himself if they had video of that day from every conceivable angle. It's just too difficult for some people to believe that one loser nobody like Oswald can change the course of history with a few gunshots. So they get these fantastic notions in their head and they will always remain there, no matter what.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Interesting...you continue to rant and rave and call people conspiracy "loons"...but you refuse to address the first wound of the "supposed" single bullet in the President's back, not in his neck as the Warren Commission FALSELY claimed in their report and in their illustrations entered as evidence. You refuse to answer WHY the Warren Report CHANGED the location of the wound and even CHANGED the description on that wound from "back" to "back of neck"...

HERE is documented proof that officials in the HIGHEST levels of our government wanted to "cut off" all speculation of a second gunman and wanted nothing BUT an outcome from the Warren Commission that Oswald acted alone...

This memo was sent from the Justice Department to the White House on November 25, 1963...3 days after the President was assassinated and one day after Oswald was killed and no longer able to stand trial.

The "intent" of our government in regards to any investigation is CLEAR in this memo and they are mirrored in phone conversations between LBJ and J Edgar Hoover in the same time frame...


Memo from Nicholas deB. Katzenbach, Deputy Attorney General

November 25, 1963

MEMORANDUM FOR MR. MOYERS

It is important that all of the facts surrounding President Kennedy's Assassination be made public in a way which will satisfy people in the United States and abroad that all the facts have been told and that a statement to this effect be made now.

1. The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large; and that the evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial.

2. Speculation about Oswald's motivation ought to be cut off, and we should have some basis for rebutting thought that this was a Communist conspiracy or (as the Iron Curtain press is saying) a right-wing conspiracy to blame it on the Communists. Unfortunately the facts on Oswald seem about too pat-- too obvious (Marxist, Cuba, Russian wife, etc.). The Dallas police have put out statements on the Communist conspiracy theory, and it was they who were in charge when he was shot and thus silenced.

3. The matter has been handled thus far with neither dignity nor conviction. Facts have been mixed with rumor and speculation. We can scarcely let the world see us totally in the image of the Dallas police when our President is murdered.

I think this objective may be satisfied by making public as soon as possible a complete and thorough FBI report on Oswald and the assassination. This may run into the difficulty of pointing to in- consistencies between this report and statements by Dallas police officials. But the reputation of the Bureau is such that it may do the whole job. The only other step would be the appointment of a Presidential Commission of unimpeachable personnel to review and examine the evidence and announce its conclusions. This has both advantages and disadvantages. It think it can await publication of the FBI report and public reaction to it here and abroad.

I think, however, that a statement that all the facts will be made public property in an orderly and responsible way should be made now. We need something to head off public speculation or Congressional hearings of the wrong sort.

Nicholas deB. Katzenbach

Deputy Attorney General

FBI JFK Assassination File (62-109060)

Interesting...you continue to rant and rave and call people conspiracy "loons"...but you refuse to address the first wound of the "supposed" single bullet in the President's back, not in his neck as the Warren Commission FALSELY claimed in their report and in their illustrations entered as evidence. You refuse to answer WHY the Warren Report CHANGED the location of the wound and even CHANGED the description on that wound from "back" to "back of neck"...

I didn't address it because I have no idea what you're trying to imply!! So the Warren Commission changed the location of Kennedy's wounds and this AUTOMATICALLY means a conspiracy??? You're not jumping from A to B, dude...you're jumping from A to X!

Regardless, Posner discusses this in his book and shows that all of these so-called "changes" are total nonsense.

You have NO idea what I'm trying to imply? REALLY???

The single bullet theory depends TOTALLY on the wounds of the two men lining up...THEY DON'T...and I presented PROOF the Warren Commission MOVED the location of the first wound and CHANGED the description in the final report...I don't understand why this isn't clear to you and why you can't see the implications of the wound being moved...

The only nonsense going on here is you, your false accusations and your Posner nonsense... there IS NO "Regardless" if you can't get me past the first set of wounds...

You keep talking conspiracy...I am ONLY talking about physical and medical evidence... The LOGICAL approach is to follow the evidence to a logical conclusion...You can bring out all the Posners in the universe, it can't erase the OBVIOUS flaw in the single bullet theory...

It is clear you are unable to discuss this in an intelligent manner...

The single bullet theory depends TOTALLY on the wounds of the two men lining up...THEY DON'T

Wrong again, they certainly do line up. Just because you don't want to believe it, doesn't make it so. The forensic evidence that Posner discusses in his book shows that the shot could have come from only one possible location -- the 6th floor corner window where Oswald was.

If the Warren Commission was trying to cover-up something regarding the autopsy report, then they wouldn't have been so clumsy about it. And they weren't trying to cover anything up, as Posner shows in his book.

And if the Warren Commission was trying to push the lone gunman theory, then why woudn't they just lie about how long the shooting lasted? -- instead of saying Oswald fired all 3 shots in 6 seconds, they could have just said 10 seconds. This would have given Oswald even more time to fire all 3 shots. (Incidentally, Posner shows that the shooting actually lasted 8 seconds, so the Warren Commission was wrong when it said it lasted 6 seconds).

You probably haven't even read Posner's book, so this discussion is pointless.

 

[Ryan]

Dude, Garrison was a total crackpot, just like you. Not even the conspiracy buffs still believe Garrison's bullshit!! (well, except for you). This is a major reason why Oliver Stone was so heavily criticized for making a movie based on Garrison's bullshit book.

you post lies as usual.the only bullshit is the stuff YOU have been posting about Posner.Treating him like he is a god when he is a proven pathalogial liar.as this thread starter has proven to you and you have blantantly ignored.

Posner is a "proven pathalogical liar", but Garrisson is not?? That's fucking hilarious!! You are truly stupid!!

You probably haven't even read Posner's book, like all of the conspiracy dipshits on this thread. None of you idiots have refuted anything meaningful in his book.

This is an indisputable fact -- the ONLY SHOOTER identified by witnesses on the day of the assassination was Oswald on the 6th floor of the book depository. NO WITNESSES mentioned seeing any other shooters on the grassy knoll or anywhere else.

The fact that you actually still BELIEVE Garrisson's bullshit shows that you are hopelessly lost. The 1970s are over, moron.

The only witness to identify Oswald was Howard Brennan. Is this the witness you have referred to in this recent post and a earlier post? Brennan's description of Oswald supposedly standing in a half closed window led to the manhunt for Oswald. The details of height and weight of the rifleman supposedly came from Brennan and went out over the police radios immediately. A remarkable feat since much of anyone standing in that location would be obscurred by bricks.

Later Brennan claimed to the Dallas Police that he could not identify Oswald in a DP line up. Subsequent to his failure or refusal to identify Oswald, Brennan then claimed that he lied and the truth was that he really could identify Oswald. He stated that he was scared for his safety even though the FBI was providing 24 protection. Do you remember this now because Posner tried to explain it away? Why does Posner coddle Brennan but then criticizes Jean Hills inconsistant statements that were no where near as bad as Brennan's statements?

This is the WC star witness and Posner's main source of eyewitness proof. Howard Brennan is a terrible source. Name another witness that specifically identified Oswald as the 6th floor rifleman. Jackson, Couch, Crawford, Mitchell, Cabell Worrell or Euins did not identify Oswald. So besides Brennan who else identified LHO?

There were scores of witnesses that thought the shots came from the grass knoll including Mercer, Bowers, Price, Holland and Deputy Constable Weitzman. Many witnesses in Dealey Plaza were not interviewed by the WC. Any skilled rifleman/sniper would avoid detection.

What is the case against Garrison?

 

[Bfgrn]

I didn't address it because I have no idea what you're trying to imply!! So the Warren Commission changed the location of Kennedy's wounds and this AUTOMATICALLY means a conspiracy??? You're not jumping from A to B, dude...you're jumping from A to X!

Regardless, Posner discusses this in his book and shows that all of these so-called "changes" are total nonsense.

You have NO idea what I'm trying to imply? REALLY???

The single bullet theory depends TOTALLY on the wounds of the two men lining up...THEY DON'T...and I presented PROOF the Warren Commission MOVED the location of the first wound and CHANGED the description in the final report...I don't understand why this isn't clear to you and why you can't see the implications of the wound being moved...

The only nonsense going on here is you, your false accusations and your Posner nonsense... there IS NO "Regardless" if you can't get me past the first set of wounds...

You keep talking conspiracy...I am ONLY talking about physical and medical evidence... The LOGICAL approach is to follow the evidence to a logical conclusion...You can bring out all the Posners in the universe, it can't erase the OBVIOUS flaw in the single bullet theory...

It is clear you are unable to discuss this in an intelligent manner...

The single bullet theory depends TOTALLY on the wounds of the two men lining up...THEY DON'T

Wrong again, they certainly do line up. Just because you don't want to believe it, doesn't make it so. The forensic evidence that Posner discusses in his book shows that the shot could have come from only one possible location -- the 6th floor corner window where Oswald was.

If the Warren Commission was trying to cover-up something regarding the autopsy report, then they wouldn't have been so clumsy about it. And they weren't trying to cover anything up, as Posner shows in his book.

And if the Warren Commission was trying to push the lone gunman theory, then why woudn't they just lie about how long the shooting lasted? -- instead of saying Oswald fired all 3 shots in 6 seconds, they could have just said 10 seconds. This would have given Oswald even more time to fire all 3 shots. (Incidentally, Posner shows that the shooting actually lasted 8 seconds, so the Warren Commission was wrong when it said it lasted 6 seconds).

You probably haven't even read Posner's book, so this discussion is pointless.

They ONLY line up when you use the FALSE location of the entrance wound the Warren Commission MOVED!!!

Warren Commission exhibit CE 386 (NOTE the entrance wound in the President's NECK)

Warren Commission exhibit CE 385 (NOTE the path of the bullet CRITICAL to the single bullet theory based on the FALSE location of the entrance wound)

HERE is the ACTUAL location of the BACK wound (NOTE the 7 X4 mm)...

Official autopsy face sheet signed by the President's personal physician...

Which MATCHES the President's clothing...

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

you post lies as usual.the only bullshit is the stuff YOU have been posting about Posner.Treating him like he is a god when he is a proven pathalogial liar.as this thread starter has proven to you and you have blantantly ignored.

Posner is a "proven pathalogical liar", but Garrisson is not?? That's fucking hilarious!! You are truly stupid!!

You probably haven't even read Posner's book, like all of the conspiracy dipshits on this thread. None of you idiots have refuted anything meaningful in his book.

This is an indisputable fact -- the ONLY SHOOTER identified by witnesses on the day of the assassination was Oswald on the 6th floor of the book depository. NO WITNESSES mentioned seeing any other shooters on the grassy knoll or anywhere else.

The fact that you actually still BELIEVE Garrisson's bullshit shows that you are hopelessly lost. The 1970s are over, moron.

The only witness to identify Oswald was Howard Brennan. Is this the witness you have referred to in this recent post and a earlier post? Brennan's description of Oswald supposedly standing in a half closed window led to the manhunt for Oswald. The details of height and weight of the rifleman supposedly came from Brennan and went out over the police radios immediately. A remarkable feat since much of anyone standing in that location would be obscurred by bricks.

Later Brennan claimed to the Dallas Police that he could not identify Oswald in a DP line up. Subsequent to his failure or refusal to identify Oswald, Brennan then claimed that he lied and the truth was that he really could identify Oswald. He stated that he was scared for his safety even though the FBI was providing 24 protection. Do you remember this now because Posner tried to explain it away? Why does Posner coddle Brennan but then criticizes Jean Hills inconsistant statements that were no where near as bad as Brennan's statements?

This is the WC star witness and Posner's main source of eyewitness proof. Howard Brennan is a terrible source. Name another witness that specifically identified Oswald as the 6th floor rifleman. Jackson, Couch, Crawford, Mitchell, Cabell Worrell or Euins did not identify Oswald. So besides Brennan who else identified LHO?

There were scores of witnesses that thought the shots came from the grass knoll including Mercer, Bowers, Price, Holland and Deputy Constable Weitzman. Many witnesses in Dealey Plaza were not interviewed by the WC. Any skilled rifleman/sniper would avoid detection.

What is the case against Garrison?

Even if what you're saying about Brennan is true (which I doubt), you're essentialy admitting that there was someone shooting at Kennedy from the 6th floor of the school book depository. And there were also 3 men standing directly below Oswald on the 5th floor who heard all 3 shots loud and clear. As I mentioned earlier, there is a picture in Posner's book of these 3 men trying to look up through their window on the 5th floor to see the shooter on the 6th floor. The picture was taken a few seconds after the shooting.

There were scores of witnesses that thought the shots came from the grass knoll including Mercer, Bowers, Price, Holland and Deputy Constable Weitzman.

NONE (let me repeat, NONE!!) of these "witnesses" came forward immediately after the shooting. Brennan did come forward immediately, which automatically gives him much more credibility.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

They ONLY line up when you use the FALSE location of the entrance wound the Warren Commission MOVED!!!

This whole discussion is pointless and you are TOTALLY missing the point. Why would the Warren Commission have to use the 6th floor location to "line up" the wounds, if they were complicit in a conspiracy (as you say)? Why couldn't they just pick ANOTHER LOCATION to line up Kennedy and Connally wounds?? Similarly, why didn't the Warren Commission just state that Oswald had 10 seconds to fire all 3 shots instead of 6 seconds (giving Oswald much more time to fire all 3 shots)???

You conspiracy buffs are hilarious -- you believe certain parts of the Warren Commission report that conform to your conspiracy beliefs (such as 6 seconds to fire all 3 shots), but not others. You pick and choose your bullshit "inconsistencies". Your whole notion of a Warren Commission conspiracy is just a very weak house of cards.

 

[Bfgrn]

They ONLY line up when you use the FALSE location of the entrance wound the Warren Commission MOVED!!!

This whole discussion is pointless and you are TOTALLY missing the point. Why would the Warren Commission have to use the 6th floor location to "line up" the wounds, if they were complicit in a conspiracy (as you say)? Why couldn't they just pick ANOTHER LOCATION to line up Kennedy and Connally wounds?? Similarly, why didn't the Warren Commission just state that Oswald had 10 seconds to fire all 3 shots instead of 6 seconds (giving Oswald much more time to fire all 3 shots)???

You conspiracy buffs are hilarious -- you believe certain parts of the Warren Commission report that conform to your conspiracy beliefs (such as 6 seconds to fire all 3 shots), but not others. You pick and choose your bullshit "inconsistencies". Your whole notion of a Warren Commission conspiracy is just a very weak house of cards.

I'm missing the point???...You're really showing how little you know about this case.

Why would the Warren Commission have to use the 6th floor location to "line up" the wounds, if they were complicit in a conspiracy (as you say)? Why couldn't they just pick ANOTHER LOCATION to line up Kennedy and Connally wounds??

WHY didn't the Warren Commission pick another location? Do I REALLY have to explain THAT to you??? Did they find a rifle and 3 cartridges on the 6th floor of the Dal-Tex building, the County Court Records, the County Criminal Court or the old courthouse building? Did Lee Harvey Oswald work at the Dal-Tex building, County Court Records, the County Criminal Court or the old courthouse building? HELLO, is anybody home???

Similarly, why didn't the Warren Commission just state that Oswald had 10 seconds to fire all 3 shots instead of 6 seconds (giving Oswald much more time to fire all 3 shots)???

6 seconds, 10 seconds or an hour is irrelevant as far as Oswald having the time to fire the shots...BUT...time becomes paramount when a certain piece of EVIDENCE called the Zapruder film is entered into the case. The time frame was determined by the REACTIONS of the victims to their wounds as seen on that piece of hard evidence called the Zapruder film. The film proves ONE gunman with a bolt action rifle DOESN'T have the TIME to inflict the first wound to the President, cock the weapon, re-aim AND inflict the wounds to Governor Connally with two separate shots...

You conspiracy buffs are hilarious -- you believe certain parts of the Warren Commission report that conform to your conspiracy beliefs (such as 6 seconds to fire all 3 shots), but not others. You pick and choose your bullshit "inconsistencies". Your whole notion of a Warren Commission conspiracy is just a very weak house of cards.

You call ME a conspiracy buff??? YOUR frinkin' screen name IS a conspiracy theory!!!!!!!!! Back off your high and mighty pontifications...

YOU have ignored hard EVIDENCE crucial to the single bullet theory...I've place that Warren Commission's evidence right in front of you and you still refuse to see it!

NOW...you REALLY need to answer my question....WHY did the Warren Commission MOVE the first wound??? There MUST be a LOGICAL reason...

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

They ONLY line up when you use the FALSE location of the entrance wound the Warren Commission MOVED!!!

This whole discussion is pointless and you are TOTALLY missing the point. Why would the Warren Commission have to use the 6th floor location to "line up" the wounds, if they were complicit in a conspiracy (as you say)? Why couldn't they just pick ANOTHER LOCATION to line up Kennedy and Connally wounds?? Similarly, why didn't the Warren Commission just state that Oswald had 10 seconds to fire all 3 shots instead of 6 seconds (giving Oswald much more time to fire all 3 shots)???

You conspiracy buffs are hilarious -- you believe certain parts of the Warren Commission report that conform to your conspiracy beliefs (such as 6 seconds to fire all 3 shots), but not others. You pick and choose your bullshit "inconsistencies". Your whole notion of a Warren Commission conspiracy is just a very weak house of cards.

I'm missing the point???...You're really showing how little you know about this case.

Why would the Warren Commission have to use the 6th floor location to "line up" the wounds, if they were complicit in a conspiracy (as you say)? Why couldn't they just pick ANOTHER LOCATION to line up Kennedy and Connally wounds??

WHY didn't the Warren Commission pick another location? Do I REALLY have to explain THAT to you??? Did they find a rifle and 3 cartridges on the 6th floor of the Dal-Tex building, the County Court Records, the County Criminal Court or the old courthouse building? Did Lee Harvey Oswald work at the Dal-Tex building, County Court Records, the County Criminal Court or the old courthouse building? HELLO, is anybody home???

Similarly, why didn't the Warren Commission just state that Oswald had 10 seconds to fire all 3 shots instead of 6 seconds (giving Oswald much more time to fire all 3 shots)???

6 seconds, 10 seconds or an hour is irrelevant as far as Oswald having the time to fire the shots...BUT...time becomes paramount when a certain piece of EVIDENCE called the Zapruder film is entered into the case. The time frame was determined by the REACTIONS of the victims to their wounds as seen on that piece of hard evidence called the Zapruder film. The film proves ONE gunman with a bolt action rifle DOESN'T have the TIME to inflict the first wound to the President, cock the weapon, re-aim AND inflict the wounds to Governor Connally with two separate shots...

You conspiracy buffs are hilarious -- you believe certain parts of the Warren Commission report that conform to your conspiracy beliefs (such as 6 seconds to fire all 3 shots), but not others. You pick and choose your bullshit "inconsistencies". Your whole notion of a Warren Commission conspiracy is just a very weak house of cards.

You call ME a conspiracy buff??? YOUR frinkin' screen name IS a conspiracy theory!!!!!!!!! Back off your high and mighty pontifications...

YOU have ignored hard EVIDENCE crucial to the single bullet theory...I've place that Warren Commission's evidence right in front of you and you still refuse to see it!

NOW...you REALLY need to answer my question....WHY did the Warren Commission MOVE the first wound??? There MUST be a LOGICAL reason...

WHY didn't the Warren Commission pick another location? Do I REALLY have to explain THAT to you??? Did they find a rifle and 3 cartridges on the 6th floor of the Dal-Tex building, the County Court Records, the County Criminal Court or the old courthouse building? Did Lee Harvey Oswald work at the Dal-Tex building, County Court Records, the County Criminal Court or the old courthouse building? HELLO, is anybody home???

Excuse me, weren't you the one who posted that idiotic Case Closed book review by that Wisconsin professor?? You know, the one that said there was "no credible evidence" linking Oswald to the assassination?? So now you are contradicting your own lame ass posts!! You're looking more and more foolish by the minute.

6 seconds, 10 seconds or an hour is irrelevant as far as Oswald having the time to fire the shots...BUT...time becomes paramount when a certain piece of EVIDENCE called the Zapruder film is entered into the case. The time frame was determined by the REACTIONS of the victims to their wounds as seen on that piece of hard evidence called the Zapruder film. The film proves ONE gunman with a bolt action rifle DOESN'T have the TIME to inflict the first wound to the President, cock the weapon, re-aim AND inflict the wounds to Governor Connally with two separate shots...

100% wrong, as I've already explained. The film doesn't "prove" more than one gunman, you are delusional. The first shot completly missed and the second shot hit Kennedy and Connelly. If Connelly had been hit by 2 shots, his leg and his wrist would have been in much worse shape. In fact, the bullet barely penetrated Connelly's leg and fell out of his leg at the hospital because it had lost so much velocity after going through Kennedy and Connelly's chest. And if Connelly was hit by 2 separate bullets, why wasn't the other bullet ever recovered??? Hell, they found remnants of the first shot that completely missed.

Again, Posner goes through all of this in Case Closed, which you obviously haven't read or you just willfully choose to ignore the facts.

You call ME a conspiracy buff??? YOUR frinkin' screen name IS a conspiracy theory!!!!!!!!! Back off your high and mighty pontifications...

No, I don't believe there was a coordinated conspiracy to steal the election from Kerry. Just a few corrupt Repug election officials stole the election on their own. I have REAL evidence to back up my beliefs - the exit polls indicate that Kerry won.

YOU have ignored hard EVIDENCE crucial to the single bullet theory...I've place that Warren Commission's evidence right in front of you and you still refuse to see it!

NOW...you REALLY need to answer my question....WHY did the Warren Commission MOVE the first wound??? There MUST be a LOGICAL reason...

This evidence is "crucial" only in your mind. A couple of crappy illustrations don't mean a damn thing. Posner explains these supposed inconsistencies in his book. It's been over 10 years since I read the book and I can't remember everything.

Just do yourself a favor and read Posner's book.

 

[Ryan]

Posner is a "proven pathalogical liar", but Garrisson is not?? That's fucking hilarious!! You are truly stupid!!

You probably haven't even read Posner's book, like all of the conspiracy dipshits on this thread. None of you idiots have refuted anything meaningful in his book.

This is an indisputable fact -- the ONLY SHOOTER identified by witnesses on the day of the assassination was Oswald on the 6th floor of the book depository. NO WITNESSES mentioned seeing any other shooters on the grassy knoll or anywhere else.

The fact that you actually still BELIEVE Garrisson's bullshit shows that you are hopelessly lost. The 1970s are over, moron.

The only witness to identify Oswald was Howard Brennan. Is this the witness you have referred to in this recent post and a earlier post? Brennan's description of Oswald supposedly standing in a half closed window led to the manhunt for Oswald. The details of height and weight of the rifleman supposedly came from Brennan and went out over the police radios immediately. A remarkable feat since much of anyone standing in that location would be obscurred by bricks.

Later Brennan claimed to the Dallas Police that he could not identify Oswald in a DP line up. Subsequent to his failure or refusal to identify Oswald, Brennan then claimed that he lied and the truth was that he really could identify Oswald. He stated that he was scared for his safety even though the FBI was providing 24 protection. Do you remember this now because Posner tried to explain it away? Why does Posner coddle Brennan but then criticizes Jean Hills inconsistant statements that were no where near as bad as Brennan's statements?

This is the WC star witness and Posner's main source of eyewitness proof. Howard Brennan is a terrible source. Name another witness that specifically identified Oswald as the 6th floor rifleman. Jackson, Couch, Crawford, Mitchell, Cabell Worrell or Euins did not identify Oswald. So besides Brennan who else identified LHO?

There were scores of witnesses that thought the shots came from the grass knoll including Mercer, Bowers, Price, Holland and Deputy Constable Weitzman. Many witnesses in Dealey Plaza were not interviewed by the WC. Any skilled rifleman/sniper would avoid detection.

What is the case against Garrison?

Even if what you're saying about Brennan is true (which I doubt), you're essentialy admitting that there was someone shooting at Kennedy from the 6th floor of the school book depository. And there were also 3 men standing directly below Oswald on the 5th floor who heard all 3 shots loud and clear. As I mentioned earlier, there is a picture in Posner's book of these 3 men trying to look up through their window on the 5th floor to see the shooter on the 6th floor. The picture was taken a few seconds after the shooting.

There were scores of witnesses that thought the shots came from the grass knoll including Mercer, Bowers, Price, Holland and Deputy Constable Weitzman.

NONE (let me repeat, NONE!!) of these "witnesses" came forward immediately after the shooting. Brennan did come forward immediately, which automatically gives him much more credibility.

Most of what I posted on Brennan could be confirmed by Posner's book "Case Closed on pages 247- 250. There is alot more to Brennan that Posner does not include. The identification of LHO went out over the Dallas Police radio at 12:45, just about 15 minutes after the assassination. What causes some controversy is that Brennan claims to have first given that description of LHO to a Dallas PO and Secret Service Agent Forrest Sorrels within minutes of the shooting. Agent Sorrels disagrees saying that he was in the lead car that rushed the following JFK limo to parkland Hospital. Sorrels testfied that he could not have met with Brennan until well after 1PM. So wherever that first description and radio report at 12:45 came from is a unclear. Brennan's insists that he spoke with Agent Sorrels and a DPO within minutes of the assassination and he is supposed to be the source of the radio description but all this confusion is a very strong reason to doubt Brennan's recollection of all the events. Sorrels was at Parkland at the time of the radio transmission.

Brennan's description of the actions he viewed on the 6th floor is contradicted by Arnold Rowland who also came fourth immediately. The handing of Rowland and is wife by the WC is very interesting in itself but the point for this discussion is that Rowland could not identify LHO as any of the men he saw. Rowland claimed to have seen several others before the shooting but was ignored by the WC. Brennan was about 100 feet and Rowland at 150 away from the book depository and 6o feet below the half opened window. A considerable distance to make a positve identification.

As I pointed out earlier, Brennan did not identify LHO in DPD line after the assassination. As a matter of fact Brennan did not identify Oswald until after LHO was killed by Jack Ruby and of course Brennan could have by that time seen the face of the man several times in the paper and on television. After the FBI visited Brennan, he then claimed to recognize LHO as the man he had seen on the 6th floor. Brennan claimed he could have identified LHO at the time of DPD lineup but refused because he was afraid of a much wider Communist Conspiracy that he still claimed to fear even while testifying at the WC. It's worth noting that Brennan was giving television interviews that whole weekend apparently without any concern for his safety, yet he either lied to the Dallas Police or the Warren Commission on whether he was able to identify LHO.

Brennan also testified that during the shooting he dove for cover from protection from the bullets behind the wall he was seated. This position of Brennan was photographed before the shooting. If this is true of Brennan's actions he would have afforded only cover from the grassy knoll and remained in full view of the 6th floor. At the same time a stream of witnesses ran toward the grassy knoll.

Brennan traveled to DC which on the same flight as the Black witnesses he claimed to observe on the 5th floor. Brennan also claimed to have identified those same two Blacks as they exited the book depository but Sorrels explicitly denied this claim by Brennan. As Brennan testified, "throughout my entire life, I could never remember what a colored person looks like if he got out of my sight. And I always thought that if I had to identify a colored person I could not. But by coincidence that one time I did recognize those two boys."

While in DC the Commision asked Brennan if his "recognition of the Negroes on the day of the assassination was as good as his recognition of the rifleman." To this question Brennan answered, "yes, at the time it was. Now, the boys rode up with me on the plane, of course I recognize them now." Later when the WC asked Brennan to identify the two Blacks in the hearing room Brennan said "I dont know which of those two... No; I won't say for sure . I can't tell which of those two it was... I saw two but I can't identify which one it was." Still the WC found that Brennan identified the two out of a lineup of three.

The truth is that Brennan was a mess, by his own he admission he either lied to the DPD or the WC. He was neither timely, accurate or credible but he was WC star witness in the murder of the President of the US and the conerstone of Posner's witness argument.

Without going into the details Posner was also dishonest in the way he covered Mark Lane in that section of eyewitnesses in his book. Brennan and his questionable vision was a legitmate point handled by very well by Lane.

 

[Ryan]

Most people do not seem to appreciate what is the true meaning of the word conspiracy. My understanding is that a conspiracy includes any illegal planing by two or more persons, which no doubt occurs often. I am sure, there are more precise meanings but my point is that the term is not understood very well and therefore the phrase "conspiracy theory" has become a pejorative term to somehow effortlessly discredit one legitimize another.

The truth is that throughout history "conspiracy theories" abounded and have become accepted as fact. In the Bible from the "Fall of Man" to the book of "Revelations" and all points in between is loaded with "conspiracy theories" that are accepted on the basis of faith. Therefore are all religious people "conspiracy theorists"? Every time a law enforcement agency investigates a crime involving two or more persons they should start with a "conspiracy theory." Are all law enforcement agents "conspiracy theorists"?

If Lee Harvey Oswald did in fact assassinate JFK and at any point received assistance from another that knew of his plans or actions then that would be a "conspiracy." Of course the guilt of LHO is far from certain despite his strange character. The bottom line is that we are surrounded by "conspiracy theories" and those that back their beliefs up with detailed information presented in good faith are the one's that deserve the most credibility. I tend to appreciate one's that go out on a limb and take a well thought out and unpopular position.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Dude, Garrison was a total crackpot, just like you. Not even the conspiracy buffs still believe Garrison's bullshit!! (well, except for you). This is a major reason why Oliver Stone was so heavily criticized for making a movie based on Garrison's bullshit book.

you post lies as usual.the only bullshit is the stuff YOU have been posting about Posner.Treating him like he is a god when he is a proven pathalogial liar.as this thread starter has proven to you and you have blantantly ignored.

Posner is a "proven pathalogical liar", but Garrisson is not?? That's fucking hilarious!! You are truly stupid!!

You probably haven't even read Posner's book, like all of the conspiracy dipshits on this thread. None of you idiots have refuted anything meaningful in his book.

This is an indisputable fact -- the ONLY SHOOTER identified by witnesses on the day of the assassination was Oswald on the 6th floor of the book depository. NO WITNESSES mentioned seeing any other shooters on the grassy knoll or anywhere else.

The fact that you actually still BELIEVE Garrisson's bullshit shows that you are hopelessly lost. The 1970s are over, moron.

the only moron posting here is YOU!!!. Yes NOW your learning.Yes Posner is a proven pathalogical liar and Garrison is NOT. and I already proved I HAVE read that fantasy book of Posners idiot with my FIRST post on page 11 that YOU refuse to read cause your so much afraid of the truth and only see what you WANT to see.the only idiot here is you and the only one that hasnt refuted anything is you.thats why you have stooped to childish insults and name calling cause you know you cant refute them.No the fact that YOU still "BELIEVE" that bullshit that Oswald killed Kennedy shows that YOU are hopelessly lost,afraid of the truth,and in serious denial.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Read it... great book.

Case Closed is a great book. However, it's only for people that truly want to know the truth -- which excludes nutjobs like "9/11 inside job" and his little conspiracy buddies.

These conspiracy idiots wouldn't believe Oswald committed the assassination all by himself if they had video of that day from every conceivable angle. It's just too difficult for some people to believe that one loser nobody like Oswald can change the course of history with a few gunshots. So they get these fantastic notions in their head and they will always remain there, no matter what.

Yes CASE OPEN "IS" a great book.and yes it is only for people who want to know the truth and ALSO are open minded which EXCLUDES you and Irrational Man. CASE OPEN debunks everyone of Posners fantasys he has.PROOF that you are afraid of the truth and only see what you WANT to see and you ignore evidence and facts is I just copied my post that I kept referring you to and posted it AGAIN for the hundreth time in my first post on page 11 to make sure you knew which post I was referring to.That post PROVES Posner only has fantasys that Oswald was the lone assassin and is a pathalogical liar.YOU never addressed that post despite the many times I asked you to cause you know you cant refute it.You havent been able to refute ANYTHING wer have thrown at you.you keep posting all kinds of proven B.S just to try and save face.

Guys this frady cat deniar has been totally brainwashed by the lies and propaganda of Posners book.He refuses to read Weinbergs book CASE OPEN that proves what a pathalogical liar Posner is,wont address my post I asked him to MANY times which I just posted again for him in my first post on page 11 that AGAIN he ignored.Has not addressed many of the thread starters points he has brought up that prove the warren commission and posner have fantasys about oswald being the lone gunman,that being the case,since he has proven he is so much in denial and afraid of the truth,I strongly suggest you guys do what Im going to do.Ignore him.No sense in trying to reason with someone when they only see what they WANT to see as this guy has proven in spades.

 

[Bfgrn]

This whole discussion is pointless and you are TOTALLY missing the point. Why would the Warren Commission have to use the 6th floor location to "line up" the wounds, if they were complicit in a conspiracy (as you say)? Why couldn't they just pick ANOTHER LOCATION to line up Kennedy and Connally wounds?? Similarly, why didn't the Warren Commission just state that Oswald had 10 seconds to fire all 3 shots instead of 6 seconds (giving Oswald much more time to fire all 3 shots)???

You conspiracy buffs are hilarious -- you believe certain parts of the Warren Commission report that conform to your conspiracy beliefs (such as 6 seconds to fire all 3 shots), but not others. You pick and choose your bullshit "inconsistencies". Your whole notion of a Warren Commission conspiracy is just a very weak house of cards.

I'm missing the point???...You're really showing how little you know about this case.

Why would the Warren Commission have to use the 6th floor location to "line up" the wounds, if they were complicit in a conspiracy (as you say)? Why couldn't they just pick ANOTHER LOCATION to line up Kennedy and Connally wounds??

WHY didn't the Warren Commission pick another location? Do I REALLY have to explain THAT to you??? Did they find a rifle and 3 cartridges on the 6th floor of the Dal-Tex building, the County Court Records, the County Criminal Court or the old courthouse building? Did Lee Harvey Oswald work at the Dal-Tex building, County Court Records, the County Criminal Court or the old courthouse building? HELLO, is anybody home???

Similarly, why didn't the Warren Commission just state that Oswald had 10 seconds to fire all 3 shots instead of 6 seconds (giving Oswald much more time to fire all 3 shots)???

6 seconds, 10 seconds or an hour is irrelevant as far as Oswald having the time to fire the shots...BUT...time becomes paramount when a certain piece of EVIDENCE called the Zapruder film is entered into the case. The time frame was determined by the REACTIONS of the victims to their wounds as seen on that piece of hard evidence called the Zapruder film. The film proves ONE gunman with a bolt action rifle DOESN'T have the TIME to inflict the first wound to the President, cock the weapon, re-aim AND inflict the wounds to Governor Connally with two separate shots...

You conspiracy buffs are hilarious -- you believe certain parts of the Warren Commission report that conform to your conspiracy beliefs (such as 6 seconds to fire all 3 shots), but not others. You pick and choose your bullshit "inconsistencies". Your whole notion of a Warren Commission conspiracy is just a very weak house of cards.

You call ME a conspiracy buff??? YOUR frinkin' screen name IS a conspiracy theory!!!!!!!!! Back off your high and mighty pontifications...

YOU have ignored hard EVIDENCE crucial to the single bullet theory...I've place that Warren Commission's evidence right in front of you and you still refuse to see it!

NOW...you REALLY need to answer my question....WHY did the Warren Commission MOVE the first wound??? There MUST be a LOGICAL reason...

Excuse me, weren't you the one who posted that idiotic Case Closed book review by that Wisconsin professor?? You know, the one that said there was "no credible evidence" linking Oswald to the assassination?? So now you are contradicting your own lame ass posts!! You're looking more and more foolish by the minute.



100% wrong, as I've already explained. The film doesn't "prove" more than one gunman, you are delusional. The first shot completly missed and the second shot hit Kennedy and Connelly. If Connelly had been hit by 2 shots, his leg and his wrist would have been in much worse shape. In fact, the bullet barely penetrated Connelly's leg and fell out of his leg at the hospital because it had lost so much velocity after going through Kennedy and Connelly's chest. And if Connelly was hit by 2 separate bullets, why wasn't the other bullet ever recovered??? Hell, they found remnants of the first shot that completely missed.

Again, Posner goes through all of this in Case Closed, which you obviously haven't read or you just willfully choose to ignore the facts.

You call ME a conspiracy buff??? YOUR frinkin' screen name IS a conspiracy theory!!!!!!!!! Back off your high and mighty pontifications...

No, I don't believe there was a coordinated conspiracy to steal the election from Kerry. Just a few corrupt Repug election officials stole the election on their own. I have REAL evidence to back up my beliefs - the exit polls indicate that Kerry won.

YOU have ignored hard EVIDENCE crucial to the single bullet theory...I've place that Warren Commission's evidence right in front of you and you still refuse to see it!

NOW...you REALLY need to answer my question....WHY did the Warren Commission MOVE the first wound??? There MUST be a LOGICAL reason...

This evidence is "crucial" only in your mind. A couple of crappy illustrations don't mean a damn thing. Posner explains these supposed inconsistencies in his book. It's been over 10 years since I read the book and I can't remember everything.

Just do yourself a favor and read Posner's book.

WOW Kerry Lost Ohio...I'm seeing a pattern develop here...you're proving A) you know NOTHING about the assassination of President Kennedy beyond what Gerald Posner has filled your head with B) you draw false or irrelevant conclusions from my posts and C) you are unable to see the OBVIOUS and instead embrace the abstract and ridiculous...

Those "crappy illustrations" you refer to are OFFICIAL EXHIBITS of the Warren Commission. The CE in CE 385 & CE 386 MEANS Commission Exhibit! They are illustrations of the "official" version of the Warren Commission's conclusion of what happened on November 22, 1963...a conclusion Gerald Posner embraces...

You discount and dismiss the FACT the Warren Commission MOVED the President's first wound UP to his neck from it's actual lower location in his BACK. THEN, you don't even QUESTION that "MAGICALLY" the new location "just happens" to line up with the Commission's single bullet theory. A critical conclusion because without the single bullet theory, there are too many wounds and not enough shots, THUS, the Warren Commission would have been forced to look for other gunmen...

What David Wrone believes Oswald's role was in the assassination is TOTALLY irrelevant...the only relevant entity that matters in what Oswald's role was in the assassination is the government that arrested and charged him.

NO ONE is denying that shots were fired from behind and above the motorcade... the ONLY question is if he (Oswald, Donald Duck or whoever) acted alone...

You can't get me past the first wound... thus, you fail...

 

[Againsheila]

I'm missing the point???...You're really showing how little you know about this case.

Why would the Warren Commission have to use the 6th floor location to "line up" the wounds, if they were complicit in a conspiracy (as you say)? Why couldn't they just pick ANOTHER LOCATION to line up Kennedy and Connally wounds??

WHY didn't the Warren Commission pick another location? Do I REALLY have to explain THAT to you??? Did they find a rifle and 3 cartridges on the 6th floor of the Dal-Tex building, the County Court Records, the County Criminal Court or the old courthouse building? Did Lee Harvey Oswald work at the Dal-Tex building, County Court Records, the County Criminal Court or the old courthouse building? HELLO, is anybody home???

Similarly, why didn't the Warren Commission just state that Oswald had 10 seconds to fire all 3 shots instead of 6 seconds (giving Oswald much more time to fire all 3 shots)???

6 seconds, 10 seconds or an hour is irrelevant as far as Oswald having the time to fire the shots...BUT...time becomes paramount when a certain piece of EVIDENCE called the Zapruder film is entered into the case. The time frame was determined by the REACTIONS of the victims to their wounds as seen on that piece of hard evidence called the Zapruder film. The film proves ONE gunman with a bolt action rifle DOESN'T have the TIME to inflict the first wound to the President, cock the weapon, re-aim AND inflict the wounds to Governor Connally with two separate shots...

You conspiracy buffs are hilarious -- you believe certain parts of the Warren Commission report that conform to your conspiracy beliefs (such as 6 seconds to fire all 3 shots), but not others. You pick and choose your bullshit "inconsistencies". Your whole notion of a Warren Commission conspiracy is just a very weak house of cards.

You call ME a conspiracy buff??? YOUR frinkin' screen name IS a conspiracy theory!!!!!!!!! Back off your high and mighty pontifications...

YOU have ignored hard EVIDENCE crucial to the single bullet theory...I've place that Warren Commission's evidence right in front of you and you still refuse to see it!

NOW...you REALLY need to answer my question....WHY did the Warren Commission MOVE the first wound??? There MUST be a LOGICAL reason...

Excuse me, weren't you the one who posted that idiotic Case Closed book review by that Wisconsin professor?? You know, the one that said there was "no credible evidence" linking Oswald to the assassination?? So now you are contradicting your own lame ass posts!! You're looking more and more foolish by the minute.



100% wrong, as I've already explained. The film doesn't "prove" more than one gunman, you are delusional. The first shot completly missed and the second shot hit Kennedy and Connelly. If Connelly had been hit by 2 shots, his leg and his wrist would have been in much worse shape. In fact, the bullet barely penetrated Connelly's leg and fell out of his leg at the hospital because it had lost so much velocity after going through Kennedy and Connelly's chest. And if Connelly was hit by 2 separate bullets, why wasn't the other bullet ever recovered??? Hell, they found remnants of the first shot that completely missed.

Again, Posner goes through all of this in Case Closed, which you obviously haven't read or you just willfully choose to ignore the facts.



No, I don't believe there was a coordinated conspiracy to steal the election from Kerry. Just a few corrupt Repug election officials stole the election on their own. I have REAL evidence to back up my beliefs - the exit polls indicate that Kerry won.

YOU have ignored hard EVIDENCE crucial to the single bullet theory...I've place that Warren Commission's evidence right in front of you and you still refuse to see it!

NOW...you REALLY need to answer my question....WHY did the Warren Commission MOVE the first wound??? There MUST be a LOGICAL reason...

This evidence is "crucial" only in your mind. A couple of crappy illustrations don't mean a damn thing. Posner explains these supposed inconsistencies in his book. It's been over 10 years since I read the book and I can't remember everything.

Just do yourself a favor and read Posner's book.

WOW Kerry Lost Ohio...I'm seeing a pattern develop here...you're proving A) you know NOTHING about the assassination of President Kennedy beyond what Gerald Posner has filled your head with B) you draw false or irrelevant conclusions from my posts and C) you are unable to see the OBVIOUS and instead embrace the abstract and ridiculous...

Those "crappy illustrations" you refer to are OFFICIAL EXHIBITS of the Warren Commission. The CE in CE 385 & CE 386 MEANS Commission Exhibit! They are illustrations of the "official" version of the Warren Commission's conclusion of what happened on November 22, 1963...a conclusion Gerald Posner embraces...

You discount and dismiss the FACT the Warren Commission MOVED the President's first wound UP to his neck from it's actual lower location in his BACK. THEN, you don't even QUESTION that "MAGICALLY" the new location "just happens" to line up with the Commission's single bullet theory. A critical conclusion because without the single bullet theory, there are too many wounds and not enough shots, THUS, the Warren Commission would have been forced to look for other gunmen...

What David Wrone believes Oswald's role was in the assassination is TOTALLY irrelevant...the only relevant entity that matters in what Oswald's role was in the assassination is the government that arrested and charged him.

NO ONE is denying that shots were fired from behind and above the motorcade... the ONLY question is if he (Oswald, Donald Duck or whoever) acted alone...

You can't get me past the first wound... thus, you fail...

Actually, we don't know if the only shots were fired from above and behind the motorcade. It's impossible to tell where the bullet entered Kennedy's head and where it exited as his brain completely disappeared.......funny how things like that happen, isn't it. Some people still believe Sirhan Sirhan killed Robert Kennedy too even though the panels in the room with the bullet holes in them disappeared as well. And the autopsy showed that the bullet that killed him was fired from no more than 6 inches away from his head but witnesses grabbed Sirhan, Sirhan and said at no time was his gun closer than two feet to Robert Kennedy.

The Boston Tea Party? It wasn't because taxes were too high, it was because England lowered the taxes on tea and made their tea cheaper, our forefathers, who smuggled in tea, couldn't sell their tea and make a profit....face it, our government has always been corrupt and thinks nothing of lying to the people.

 

[Ryan]

In his book "Case Closed" Posner feigns that he was concerned with the historical treatment of Howard Brennan. Yet Posner does not have any worthwhile examples which he refers to as attack on Brennan by those who do not accept the WC Report. I have to wonder what Posner thought of Sandy Speaker's account of Brennan's treatment by federal investigators. Speaker was Brennan's foreman as a pipe fitter on a construction project behind the Dallas Book Depositoy.

Sandy Speaker interviewed by Jim Marrs
"They took [Brennan] off for about three weeks. I don't know if they were Secret Service or FBI, but they were federal people. He came back a nervous wreck and within a year his hair turned snow white. He would not talk about [the assassination] after that. They made him say what they wanted him to say."

 

[Ryan]

In Dealey Plaza there were scores of witnesses to the JFK assassination and not surprisingly many disagree about what occurred during that confusing event. Many claimed that the shots originated from the "grassy knoll" others the DBD or that there were more then 3 shots. There is are varying accounts despite what authors like Posner would suggest. Here is an interesting account from steel worker Richard Carr interviewed by Jim Marrs.

Carr
The FBI came to my house-there were two of them-and they said they heard I witnessed the assassination and I said I did. They told me, "If you did not see Lee Harvey Oswald up in the School Book Depository with a rifle, you did not witness it." I said, Well the man I saw on television that they tell me is Lee Harvey Oswald was not in the window of the School Book Depository. That's not the man." And [one of the agents] said I better keep my mouth shut. He did not ask me what I saw, he told me what I saw.

 

[Ryan]

Sandy Speaker, Brennan's superviser, also told Marrs about a anonymous phone call A. J. Millican received in early 1964. Millican phoned Speaker, almost in tears, and warned him never talk about the assasination again. Millican told Speaker that he just received an anonymous phone call not only threatening his life but the lives of his wife and sisters. He also said the caller told him to warn Speaker to keep his mouth shut.

Speaker
That call really shook me up because Millican was a former boxing champ of the Pacific fleet. He was a scrapper, a fighter. But he was obviously scared to death. And I still don't underatand how they got my name because I was never interviewed by the FBI, the Secret Service the police or anyone. They must be pretty powerful to have found out about me.

 

[Ryan]

KWO, I just noticed your claim from Posner's book about, "3 men trying to look up through their window on the 5th floor to see the shooter on the 6th floor. The picture was taken a few seconds after the shooting."

You must have a different edition then I do since my book has a a picture of only two men looking straight out. As far as someone shooting from the 6th floor, I have no doubt that there was someone shooting up there. Obviously Posner has not explained the issue very well if this is considered evidence of Oswald's guilt.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Excuse me, weren't you the one who posted that idiotic Case Closed book review by that Wisconsin professor?? You know, the one that said there was "no credible evidence" linking Oswald to the assassination?? So now you are contradicting your own lame ass posts!! You're looking more and more foolish by the minute.



100% wrong, as I've already explained. The film doesn't "prove" more than one gunman, you are delusional. The first shot completly missed and the second shot hit Kennedy and Connelly. If Connelly had been hit by 2 shots, his leg and his wrist would have been in much worse shape. In fact, the bullet barely penetrated Connelly's leg and fell out of his leg at the hospital because it had lost so much velocity after going through Kennedy and Connelly's chest. And if Connelly was hit by 2 separate bullets, why wasn't the other bullet ever recovered??? Hell, they found remnants of the first shot that completely missed.

Again, Posner goes through all of this in Case Closed, which you obviously haven't read or you just willfully choose to ignore the facts.



No, I don't believe there was a coordinated conspiracy to steal the election from Kerry. Just a few corrupt Repug election officials stole the election on their own. I have REAL evidence to back up my beliefs - the exit polls indicate that Kerry won.



This evidence is "crucial" only in your mind. A couple of crappy illustrations don't mean a damn thing. Posner explains these supposed inconsistencies in his book. It's been over 10 years since I read the book and I can't remember everything.

Just do yourself a favor and read Posner's book.

WOW Kerry Lost Ohio...I'm seeing a pattern develop here...you're proving A) you know NOTHING about the assassination of President Kennedy beyond what Gerald Posner has filled your head with B) you draw false or irrelevant conclusions from my posts and C) you are unable to see the OBVIOUS and instead embrace the abstract and ridiculous...

Those "crappy illustrations" you refer to are OFFICIAL EXHIBITS of the Warren Commission. The CE in CE 385 & CE 386 MEANS Commission Exhibit! They are illustrations of the "official" version of the Warren Commission's conclusion of what happened on November 22, 1963...a conclusion Gerald Posner embraces...

You discount and dismiss the FACT the Warren Commission MOVED the President's first wound UP to his neck from it's actual lower location in his BACK. THEN, you don't even QUESTION that "MAGICALLY" the new location "just happens" to line up with the Commission's single bullet theory. A critical conclusion because without the single bullet theory, there are too many wounds and not enough shots, THUS, the Warren Commission would have been forced to look for other gunmen...

What David Wrone believes Oswald's role was in the assassination is TOTALLY irrelevant...the only relevant entity that matters in what Oswald's role was in the assassination is the government that arrested and charged him.

NO ONE is denying that shots were fired from behind and above the motorcade... the ONLY question is if he (Oswald, Donald Duck or whoever) acted alone...

You can't get me past the first wound... thus, you fail...

Actually, we don't know if the only shots were fired from above and behind the motorcade. It's impossible to tell where the bullet entered Kennedy's head and where it exited as his brain completely disappeared.......funny how things like that happen, isn't it. Some people still believe Sirhan Sirhan killed Robert Kennedy too even though the panels in the room with the bullet holes in them disappeared as well. And the autopsy showed that the bullet that killed him was fired from no more than 6 inches away from his head but witnesses grabbed Sirhan, Sirhan and said at no time was his gun closer than two feet to Robert Kennedy.

The Boston Tea Party? It wasn't because taxes were too high, it was because England lowered the taxes on tea and made their tea cheaper, our forefathers, who smuggled in tea, couldn't sell their tea and make a profit....face it, our government has always been corrupt and thinks nothing of lying to the people.

I can only laugh at the fools who fall for the B.S of Posners that he sprouts off.Posner fails to mention that the reason many witnesses ran to the grassy knoll is because they SAW a gunman firing behind the picket fence.I guess according to Posner,those people were delusional and seeing things right? those are the laughable explanations Posner comes up with in his book when he tries to explain away his fantasys for Oswald being the lone gunman. yeah thats funny how in the RFK assassination,they removed all the evidence as well by getting rid of the ceiling panels where bullet holes were.The FBI also confiscated the pictures of a high school photographer there who took many photos as well and never returned them.

The RFK assassination was as complete of a joke as the JFK assassination was as well in the fact that the worlds most famous coroner who has done like over a 1000 autopsys in his life,said that RFK had an entrance bullet wound to the BACK of his head which proves Sirhan could not have fired the shots since witnesses placed him in FRONT of RFK the entire time and the film footage backs them up as well.Yes we have an evil and out of control government on our hands that is never held accountable for their actions,yet the blind sheep people of the country,just want to bury their heads in the sand like an ostrich and will go on worrying about trivial little things like how their favorite team in football is doing or how their love life is,ect ect.pretty pitiful that they dont care.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

YOU have ignored hard EVIDENCE crucial to the single bullet theory...I've place that Warren Commission's evidence right in front of you and you still refuse to see it!

Just do yourself a favor and read Posner's book.

Do YOURSELF a favor,and STOP falling for the lies and propaganda of Posners and worshipping him as the ultimate truth.Like he said,you have ignored hard EVIDENCE crucial to the single bullet theory.Like he said,he has placed the warren commissions so called evidence right in front of you and you still refuse to see it.Not only that,you still refuse to read my first post that I REPOSTED for you for the hundreth time just to make sure you knew what post I was referring to,and you STILL refuse to read it.You wont read it cause you know that it obviously proves what a pathalogical liar Posner really is.

for the hundreth time,do YOURSELF a favor and read Harold Weinbergs book CASE OPEN.It refutes every one of Posners fantasys he has and doesnt ignore evidence and facts like Posner conviently does.Of course as we both know,you only see what you WANT to see,so as we both know,you wont read Weinbergs book.