Jews for Justice..... If Americans really Knew

[Challenger]

Well there is the same ARROGANCE with the ZIONIST SCURGE,as there was with the NAZIS...and the Zionists try to desensitize people about the FINE PALESTINIANS,in the same way the NAZIS did to the Jews......Please note I have NOT paired Jews and ZIONIST TRASH as they are both very different types of people....Say NO TO ZIONISM.

I'm changing the "Teddyearp" monika to TEADDY TWERP because he is a Rabid Zionista........steve...and talks Shit most of the time
The State of Israel HAS NEVER BEEN RATIFIED BY THE US SECURITY COUNCIL>>>>>>>THUS DEEMING ISRAEL ILLEGAL......FACT....YOU ARE BUT ILLEGAL SQUATTERS.....FACT.I'm theliq,all knowing LIQ...ever living,ever faithful,ever sure.

Who is the zionist scurge or trash, which you write in capitals? I believe in Israel's right to exist. Does that make me zionist trash?

Depends on how you'd like israel to exist, as an occuper, agressor, oppressor, herrenvolk state or an inclusive, western-style, democracy that gives equal rights for all it's citizens regardless of their religion or ethnicity, including allowing a right of return to all those citizens ethically cleansed in 1948.

Sounds like being a zionist for you means accepting that the Jewish state is not Jewish going forward? Nope, I don't agree with that. I hope for a two state solution with land swaps but no right of return. I think the Jews understandably want their Jewish state, as do the Palestinians. So am I zionist trash or should I say ZIONIST TRASH?

I didn't say that. Why can't Israel be a secular state, it works reasonably well in America?

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Where has it been tried in the Middle East? Why can't Isreal be the "shining light unto the nations" as the first example?

 

[rhodescholar]

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Linkiloo, notice how the scumbag focuses purely on Israel, demanding that Israel become secular, granting absolute democratic rights to all - but not a ******* peep on any of the 22 arab countries doing the same. Hypocritical dogshit masquerading as a poster.

 

[rhodescholar]

Where has it been tried in the Middle East? Why can't Isreal be the "shining light unto the nations" as the first example?

Why should it, imbecile?

Why do you hate arab muslims so much that you dumb down your expectations of them? Or do you see them as helpless, incapable trash unable to act in a civilized manner?

 

[Challenger]

Not a sign of any invitation to migrate in either article. Try again.

"shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes."

Seems pretty clear to me, dimwit.

And to the majority of the worlds population as well. The Jews were invited to migrate and settle the land of Palestine. No where does it say the arab muslims were invited to migrate and settle the land

Didn't have to, it was their land, they were already there.

 

[Challenger]

Like Manifest Destiny.

Absolutely, like the great return of the monarch butterflies to their ancestral homeland.

And embodied in International law at the time

 

[Challenger]

Why should it be secular, this works for every Islamic state ?

True and an interesting question.....Which, in turn, raises another question:

Why, then, should Israel be treated by us (in support, intelligence sharing, and funds, etc.) any different than we treat a Jordan or Algeria or (dare I say) Iran?

As a country, we have never been too fond of any government that placed religious ideology before secular neutrality.

Because it allows the west a foothold in the M.E. in case of attack from Russia or China. Israel provides the west with realistically priced Pharmaceuticals and medical supplies when ever we need them. Israel shares its defence strategy and infrastructure with the west out of goodwill. What does islam share apart from aggression and terrorism............

So you believe Russia and China are going to attack the ME and Israel is there to stop it? Admit it, Phoney, you've stopped taking your meds again haven't you?

Russia's going to fight its way through Georgia, Azerbajan and Armenia, just to invade Iraq or Iran, and Turkey/NATO will just sit and watch, while Israel gallops out like a knight in shining armour to protect Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt?

...or China is going to power it's way through Tajikistan, Pakistan or Afghanistan, just to invade Iran and or Iraq, while Israel gallops out like a knight in shining armour to protect Syria, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt?

 

[Challenger]

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Linkiloo, notice how the scumbag focuses purely on Israel, demanding that Israel become secular, granting absolute democratic rights to all - but not a ******* peep on any of the 22 arab countries doing the same. Hypocritical dogshit masquerading as a poster.

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

 

[nat4900]

Absolutely, like the great return of the monarch butterflies to their ancestral homeland.

Monarch butterflies decline migration may disappear

MEXICO CITY (AP) — The number of Monarch butterflies wintering in Mexico plunged this year to its lowest level since studies began in 1993, leading experts to announce Wednesday that the insects' annual migration from the United States and Canada is in danger of disappearing.

Well, at least Challenger understand my warped sense of humor..

 

[Phoenall]

Why should it be secular, this works for every Islamic state ?

True and an interesting question.....Which, in turn, raises another question:

Why, then, should Israel be treated by us (in support, intelligence sharing, and funds, etc.) any different than we treat a Jordan or Algeria or (dare I say) Iran?

As a country, we have never been too fond of any government that placed religious ideology before secular neutrality.

Because it allows the west a foothold in the M.E. in case of attack from Russia or China. Israel provides the west with realistically priced Pharmaceuticals and medical supplies when ever we need them. Israel shares its defence strategy and infrastructure with the west out of goodwill. What does islam share apart from aggression and terrorism............[/QUOTE]

OIL (just ask Cheney)......lol

(Oh, you're really worried that China and/or Russia is planning an attack and that Israel will defend us?)

Reading what is not written shows a lack of intelligence, I said Israel allows the west a foothold in case of attack, and acts as an early warning system. But I see the rest went over your head and did not even ruffle your hair.

 

[Phoenall]

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Linkiloo, notice how the scumbag focuses purely on Israel, demanding that Israel become secular, granting absolute democratic rights to all - but not a ******* peep on any of the 22 arab countries doing the same. Hypocritical dogshit masquerading as a poster.

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

And under the Mandate for Palestine this includes Jordan

 

[rhodescholar]

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

Ok c-nt, I am calling you out. Where are your posts relating to the lack of basic freedoms in Gaza?

And where are your posts in the mideast forums addressing the lack of freedoms in the 22 arab countries?

That's right, there aren't any, you non-credible piece of ******* turd.

 

[rhodescholar]

Didn't have to, it was their land, they were already there.

Whose land? It was already proven that the arabs were immigrants, and the arab landowners sold most of their property to jews.

 

[montelatici]

Didn't have to, it was their land, they were already there.

Whose land? It was already proven that the arabs were immigrants, and the arab landowners sold most of their property to jews.

No it has been proven that European Jews were the immigrants/settlers/invaders of Palestine. Why do you bullshit? There are plenty of UN and LoN reports that say as much. Why do you constantly lie?

 

[Phoenall]

Didn't have to, it was their land, they were already there.

Whose land? It was already proven that the arabs were immigrants, and the arab landowners sold most of their property to jews.

No it has been proven that European Jews were the immigrants/settlers/invaders of Palestine. Why do you bullshit? There are plenty of UN and LoN reports that say as much. Why do you constantly lie?

Cant find one that says the European Jews were invaders, can you help and post them for me.. Or is this another of your LIES

 

[Linkiloo]

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Linkiloo, notice how the scumbag focuses purely on Israel, demanding that Israel become secular, granting absolute democratic rights to all - but not a ******* peep on any of the 22 arab countries doing the same. Hypocritical dogshit masquerading as a poster.

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

An obvious dodge. I can always tell a real leftist from an anti-semite. The real leftist will equally condemn all human rights breaches the world over without singling out the jewish state. The honest critic will put suffering in context. He will see how the average palestinian is an instrument in a much bigger conflict, how he has been betrayed by his leaders and his neighbours (all of them). But an honest liberal will see that he is living longer than his berethen in neighbouring countries and that his freedoms are seriously curtailed but that the conflict has created this reality and this suffering for Jews too.

 

[Linkiloo]

The whole "invaders" narrative has no bearing on today. Yep the US is born of invaders, as is Australia and most European lands have been invaded. So what? each modern country decides on its citizenship laws, so what of it? This is an anti-semitic angle that does not further the argument.

 

[Linkiloo]

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Linkiloo, notice how the scumbag focuses purely on Israel, demanding that Israel become secular, granting absolute democratic rights to all - but not a ******* peep on any of the 22 arab countries doing the same. Hypocritical dogshit masquerading as a poster.

I am always looking for real and fair critics of policy and with them I enjoy debating. However if a poster holds Israel to higher standards than others in the region, I have to wonder why that is. If a poster calls on Israel to open up access to Gaza, I ask, whx not call Egypt on that? If Israel is being called to task for killing civilians in war, why not call the US to task or even closer to home, Syria? Israeli wrongdoing must be put in context or it can only be a front for Jew-hate.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Linkiloo, notice how the scumbag focuses purely on Israel, demanding that Israel become secular, granting absolute democratic rights to all - but not a ******* peep on any of the 22 arab countries doing the same. Hypocritical dogshit masquerading as a poster.

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

An obvious dodge. I can always tell a real leftist from an anti-semite. The real leftist will equally condemn all human rights breaches the world over without singling out the jewish state. The honest critic will put suffering in context. He will see how the average palestinian is an instrument in a much bigger conflict, how he has been betrayed by his leaders and his neighbours (all of them). But an honest liberal will see that he is living longer than his berethen in neighbouring countries and that his freedoms are seriously curtailed but that the conflict has created this reality and this suffering for Jews too.

Not true.

If you stop using Israeli propaganda as your only source of information, you will find that activists are also involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc..

 

[Phoenall]

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Linkiloo, notice how the scumbag focuses purely on Israel, demanding that Israel become secular, granting absolute democratic rights to all - but not a ******* peep on any of the 22 arab countries doing the same. Hypocritical dogshit masquerading as a poster.

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

An obvious dodge. I can always tell a real leftist from an anti-semite. The real leftist will equally condemn all human rights breaches the world over without singling out the jewish state. The honest critic will put suffering in context. He will see how the average palestinian is an instrument in a much bigger conflict, how he has been betrayed by his leaders and his neighbours (all of them). But an honest liberal will see that he is living longer than his berethen in neighbouring countries and that his freedoms are seriously curtailed but that the conflict has created this reality and this suffering for Jews too.

Not true.

If you stop using Israeli propaganda as your only source of information, you will find that activists are also involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc..

Not true because it shows you for what you are a moronic islamonazi stooge

 

[P F Tinmore]

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Linkiloo, notice how the scumbag focuses purely on Israel, demanding that Israel become secular, granting absolute democratic rights to all - but not a ******* peep on any of the 22 arab countries doing the same. Hypocritical dogshit masquerading as a poster.

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

An obvious dodge. I can always tell a real leftist from an anti-semite. The real leftist will equally condemn all human rights breaches the world over without singling out the jewish state. The honest critic will put suffering in context. He will see how the average palestinian is an instrument in a much bigger conflict, how he has been betrayed by his leaders and his neighbours (all of them). But an honest liberal will see that he is living longer than his berethen in neighbouring countries and that his freedoms are seriously curtailed but that the conflict has created this reality and this suffering for Jews too.

Not true.

If you stop using Israeli propaganda as your only source of information, you will find that activists are also involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc..

Not true because it shows you for what you are a moronic islamonazi stooge

Code Pink who has been blasted by Israeli propagandists for visiting Gaza several times also protests other wars.