Zone1 Jesus Christ: The MYTH

[JoeB131]

Bush never wrecked the economy.

You would be amazed at how many lenders up and down the line who were driven out by the Dodd Frank law. When borrowers can't get loans, businesses fail to keep operating. Democrats killed the industry.

You are a little confused.

Dodd Frank wasn't passed until AFTER the banks collapsed under Bush. In fact, it didn't take effect until July 2010. After most people agreed the recession had ended.

 

[Hafar1014]

You are a little confused.

Dodd Frank wasn't passed until AFTER the banks collapsed under Bush. In fact, it didn't take effect until July 2010. After most people agreed the recession had ended.

Fannie mae collapsed because democrats passed the Community reinvestment act under Carter forcing banks to take on quotas of bad to take on quotas of bad loans. The collapse occurred with democrats in control of both house and senate. Chriss Dodd and Barney Fwank blocked reforms that would have prevented it

 

[JoeB131]

Fannie mae collapsed because democrats passed the Community reinvestment act under Carter forcing banks to take on quotas of bad to take on quotas of bad loans. The collapse occurred with democrats in control of both house and senate. Chriss Dodd and Barney Fwank blocked reforms that would have prevented it

Okay, we are getting off topic here... (again.) This thread is about whether or not Jesus was a real person.

Bush had control of both houses of Congress from 2002 - 2006. Dodd and Frank couldn't have blocked anything.

The reality was that Bush was perfectly fine with a wild-west mortgage market, subprime loans, CRA, and the rest, because selling each other overpriced houses gave our economy the illusion of growth.

So let's get back to the topic of whether Jesus was a real person or a myth made up by religious reformers who needed to create a "perfect man" to be the messenger of a new religion that blended Eastern mysticism with Greek philosophy.

 

[Meriweather]

So let's get back to the topic of whether Jesus was a real person or a myth made up by religious reformers who needed to create a "perfect man" to be the messenger of a new religion that blended Eastern mysticism with Greek philosophy.

Why avoid the reality that Jesus was a Jew, and as such, lived Hebrew history. Place him squarely into his proper context, and one can read what his life and purpose were about.

 

[Hafar1014]

Okay, we are getting off topic here... (again.) This thread is about whether or not Jesus was a real person.

Bush had control of both houses of Congress from 2002 - 2006. Dodd and Frank couldn't have blocked anything.

The reality was that Bush was perfectly fine with a wild-west mortgage market, subprime loans, CRA, and the rest, because selling each other overpriced houses gave our economy the illusion of growth.

So let's get back to the topic of whether Jesus was a real person or a myth made up by religious reformers who needed to create a "perfect man" to be the messenger of a new religion that blended Eastern mysticism with Greek philosophy.

Dodd was taking bribes from Countrywide mortgage Fwank was the butt boy for a Fannie Mae high level executive.

 

[JoeB131]

Why avoid the reality that Jesus was a Jew, and as such, lived Hebrew history. Place him squarely into his proper context, and one can read what his life and purpose were about.

Because there is no real proof that Jesus existed as a person, to start with.

The writers of the original gospels didn't write in Hebrew, they wrote in Greek. (There's an argument that Matthew's gospel may have been written in Hebrew, but it's doubtful.)

Now, here's the thing. Judea/Palestine had been part of the Greek World since Alexander the Great crushed the Persian Empire. So all the Greek philosophy, art, and beliefs were seeping into Jewish beliefs.

 

[JoeB131]

Dodd was taking bribes from Countrywide mortgage Fwank was the butt boy for a Fannie Mae high level executive.

Neither of them were Preisdent. Bush was.

the whole of Washington had (and still has) an unhealthy relationship with the banking industry.

But Bush was in charge. It was his disaster.

This has nothing to do with Jesus (who was Bush's favorite philosopher because he probably couldn't name a philosopher on a bet.)

 

[Hafar1014]

Neither of them were Preisdent. Bush was.

the whole of Washington had (and still has) an unhealthy relationship with the banking industry.

But Bush was in charge. It was his disaster.

This has nothing to do with Jesus (who was Bush's favorite philosopher because he probably couldn't name a philosopher on a bet.)

They controlled banking oversight

 

[Meriweather]

Because there is no real proof that Jesus existed as a person, to start with.

Despite all the historical research, despite scholarly consensus Jesus did exist, it has always been extremely important to you that Jesus never existed. Why is it vital to you that Jesus did not exist?

 

[JoeB131]

They controlled banking oversight

I think you need to go back to basic civics

You can start by understanding the difference between the LEGISLATIVE and EXECUTIVE Branches.

Anyway, back to my boy, JC!

Despite all the historical research, despite scholarly consensus Jesus did exist, it has always been extremely important to you that Jesus never existed. Why is it vital to you that Jesus did not exist?

Scholars who were Christian and Christian-adjacent working from "Confirmation Bias".

Questioning a story that is fantastic and unbelievable is kind of rational. Especially since it has led to centuries of truly irrational stuff.

 

[Meriweather]

Questioning a story that is fantastic and unbelievable is kind of rational. Especially since it has led to centuries of truly irrational stuff.

It has also led to the truly amazing, which has been verified. Take a look at yourself and your own life...has it led you into the irrational at times? Just because the irrational also exists, does not negate what is rational. Jesus was not an irrational man. Some of his followers, yes. Judas, perhaps?

 

[JoeB131]

It has also led to the truly amazing, which has been verified. Take a look at yourself and your own life...has it led you into the irrational at times? Just because the irrational also exists, does not negate what is rational. Jesus was not an irrational man. Some of his followers, yes. Judas, perhaps?

The Dark Ages, the first "Faith-based initiative"

 

[Meriweather]

The Dark Ages, the first "Faith-based initiative"

Why is it vital to you that Jesus did not exist?

 

[BreezeWood]

worse than pub's forcing their religion on children in public education.

Where at?

bible belt, lands beneath all else where darkness abides.

A federal appeals court cleared the way on Friday for Louisiana to require the display of the Ten Commandments in every public school classroom, allowing the state to enforce a law that was passed in 2024 ...

provide the etched tablets claimed by the liar and murder moses are etched in the heavens that were never read by anyone before being destroyed by the same as who either made them up or disagreed w/ the heavenly guide as their only proclamation to triumph good vs evil.

provide anyone spoken to by the heavens past the garden of eden, origin of the heavenly quest for judgement and spiritual freedom.

 

[BreezeWood]

Why avoid the reality that Jesus was a Jew, and as such, lived Hebrew history. Place him squarely into his proper context, and one can read what his life and purpose were about.

jesus is never a jew from childhood to their crucifixion they knew judaism is a false religion - manufactured commandments, hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid, heavenly personifications that never occurred et al.

jesus is not found in a single jew dead sea scroll.

 

[JoeB131]

Why is it vital to you that Jesus did not exist?

Who said it was vital?

I also don't believe in UFOs, Bigfoot, or the Loch Ness Monster, but their non-existence to me is hardly "vital".

 

[Robert W]

bible belt, lands beneath all else where darkness abides.



provide the etched tablets claimed by the liar and murder moses are etched in the heavens that were never read by anyone before being destroyed by the same as who either made them up or disagreed w/ the heavenly guide as their only proclamation to triumph good vs evil.

provide anyone spoken to by the heavens past the garden of eden, origin of the heavenly quest for judgement and spiritual freedom.

I have read the ten commandments perhaps 20 times. What is bad about them other than they piss off Democrats?

 

[Hafar1014]

jesus is never a jew from childhood to their crucifixion they knew judaism is a false religion - manufactured commandments, hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid, heavenly personifications that never occurred et al.

jesus is not found in a single jew dead sea scroll.

Because he never existed

 

[Robert W]

jesus is not found in a single jew dead sea scroll.

I have seen those scrolls. They were written prior to Jesus showing up.

 

[Robert W]

jesus is never a jew from childhood to their crucifixion they knew judaism is a false religion - manufactured commandments, hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid, heavenly personifications that never occurred et al.

jesus is not found in a single jew dead sea scroll.