Zone1 Jesus Christ: The MYTH

[Hafar1014]

Honestly, if your God is sending people to hell for eating meat during Lent, that makes him a villain, not a hero.

If there is a higher power, I would certainly hope that it isn't the psychopathic deity of the Abrahamic religions.

Thats Christianity Jews dont have hell

 

[Meriweather]

Honestly, if your God is sending people to hell for eating meat during Lent, that makes him a villain, not a hero.

If there is a higher power, I would certainly hope that it isn't the psychopathic deity of the Abrahamic religions.

IF... He is not. As a former Catholic you should know this. Remember, a mortal sin must include an awareness and a choice that one wants to live apart from God.

You, Joe, have chosen to live apart from God, and your desire is to have everyone live apart from God. Have you considered it is just possible you are the psychopath?

 

[JoeB131]

Thats Christianity Jews dont have hell

Um. Christianity is an Abrahamic Religion. So is Islam.

 

[Meriweather]

Thats Christianity Jews dont have hell

Do Jews believe that no one can choose to exist apart from God? Let's take the Amalekites for example. Hitler, who some Jews consider an Amalekite?

 

[JoeB131]

IF... He is not. As a former Catholic you should know this. Remember, a mortal sin must include an awareness and a choice that one wants to live apart from God.

You, Joe, have chosen to live apart from God, and your desire is to have everyone live apart from God. Have you considered it is just possible you are the psychopath?

Nope, not really. Sr. Mary Butch had us completely convinced we were going to hell for eating meat during Lent. Which was a big problem because every Easter Break, my family would visit my mom's relatives in Missouri, who were all Southern Baptists and didn't go in for that sort of stuff.

(Short version, my Mom and her sisters were brought up as Baptists, but all converted to Catholicism to marry a German, an Irishman, and an Italian. Their father pretty much stopped speaking to any of them before they put him in nursing home. He had no relationship with any of his grandchildren. )

Frankly, if you have a need to grovel in front of an imaginary sky fairy, and that brings solace to your life, have at it.

It's when you all try to impose that on the rest of us...

 

[JoeB131]

Do Jews believe that no one can choose to exist apart from God? Let's take the Amalekites for example. Hitler, who some Jews consider an Amalekite?

Wow. Now, you see, here's the thing.

The Amalekites were the victims of Hebrew GENOCIDE. Poor Saul lost favor with God because he was committing INCOMPLETE Genocide against the Amalekites by keeping their livestock and ransoming their King.

So, 3000 years later, the Jews whined that Hitler tried to commit Genocide against them.

And now they are trying to commit Genocide against the Palestinians.

"Genocide, it's okay when WE do it!"

 

[Meriweather]

Nope, not really.

Frankly, if you have a need to grovel in front of an imaginary sky fairy, and that brings solace to your life, have at it.

It's when you all try to impose that on the rest of us...

That is your own imaginary religion, Joe. You choose to live apart from God so you refuse to see him as you know he is, and redesign him to fit someone you can hate--and that others can hate as well. It is actually you who want to impose your way among the rest of us.

By the way: I ignore all videos posted here. My discussion is with you, not some video, or any video.

 

[Meriweather]

Now, you see, here's the thing.

No, that's not "the thing", merely another redesign.

 

[JoeB131]

That is your own imaginary religion, Joe. You choose to live apart from God so you refuse to see him as you know he is, and redesign him to fit someone you can hate--and that others can hate as well. It is actually you who want to impose your way among the rest of us.

By the way: I ignore all videos posted here. My discussion is with you, not some video, or any video.

The video wasn't offered as proof, just as humor. I would love to never discuss religion again, because the Christian Right finally starts minding its own business.

Again, all I do is point out that the God in the bible is not the Disneyfied God you worship. 12 years of Catholic School, and I never heard of Jephthah's daughter, Elisha's She-Bears, or any of the other crazy stories.

 

[Meriweather]

The video wasn't offered as proof, just as humor. I would love to never discuss religion again, because the Christian Right finally starts minding its own business.

Again, all I do is point out that the God in the bible is not the Disneyfied God you worship. 12 years of Catholic School, and I never heard of Jephthah's daughter, Elisha's She-Bears, or any of the other crazy stories.

Could it be you who is in business not his own when it comes to Christianity? I've already explained (probably more than once) the Hebrew version (rather than the King James version) of these stories, and the lessons and histories that are mentioned and portrayed. Shrug. You prefer the King Version and modern Western culture understanding of a poor translation of the Hebrew. Again, you cease and wrap around yourself any reason and anything that will keep you apart from God, choosing your own ways, putting yourself above all.

 

[JoeB131]

Could it be you who is in business not his own when it comes to Christianity? I've already explained (probably more than once) the Hebrew version (rather than the King James version) of these stories, and the lessons and histories that are mentioned and portrayed. Shrug. You prefer the King Version and modern Western culture understanding of a poor translation of the Hebrew. Again, you cease and wrap around yourself any reason and anything that will keep you apart from God, choosing your own ways, putting yourself above all.

Um, okay, about that. I have my family bible right next to me. The Catholic translation. Been in my family since I was a kid. The one I used to practice that section from the Book of Tobit they use at every wedding.

The Elisha verse uses the term "Small Boys" to describe the kids who made fun of Elisha's baldness.

It's also very explicit that Jephthah sacrificed his virgin daughter.

So your argument that "King James did a bad translation" doesn't really fly.

Of course, the bigger problem was, we never heard these stories at all growing up. They just don't make God look good, no matter how you sugarcoat them.

Now, there are some stories that the nuns did have to tell us, and they tried to sugar coat those, to no avail.

Like when Sr. Mary Butch told us it was good that God drowned every baby in the world because they were "Wicked". (You wonder if this woman just didn't like children.)

Now, the rationalist in me realizes that for the Bronze/Early Iron Age people who wrote the Old Testament, "God" was every force of nature you didn't understand, and anything bad that happened was God being angry. A couple of bears go around picking off children? Those kids must have made God mad!

 

[Meriweather]

The Elisha verse uses the term "Small Boys" to describe the kids who made fun of Elisha's baldness.

Look up the Hebrew...

 

[Meriweather]

Like when Sr. Mary Butch told us it was good that God drowned every baby in the world because they were "Wicked". (You wonder if this woman just didn't like children.)

And...how old were you at the time? Second grade? You never grew/matured past the grade where you heard that response?

 

[Meriweather]

A couple of bears go around picking off children?

In science class...ever learn that she-bears do not hunt in pairs? They are solitary creatures, except for when they are raising cubs?

 

[Woodznutz]

Romans kept records as did local officials
There are no contemporaneous records which affirm the biblical Jesus

I don't think the larger world was paying much attention to the activities of this small group. Same with Israel. There are scant records of them in the histories of the great nations around them.

 

[BreezeWood]

Do the 10 commandments piss you off?

lying desert dwellers who persecute and victimize the innocent in the name of the heavens need to be brought to justice once and for all. rw.

who use the 1st century events, repudiation of judaism the opposite they gave their lives for are the lowest of all serpents. rw.

time to bring the crucifiers, desert dwellers to justice for their crimes.

 

[Robert W]

lying desert dwellers who persecute and victimize the innocent in the name of the heavens need to be brought to justice once and for all. rw.

who use the 1st century events, repudiation of judaism the opposite they gave their lives for are the lowest of all serpents. rw.

time to bring the crucifiers, desert dwellers to justice for their crimes.

Does anybody know if BreezeWood is using any of Hitlers arguments?

 

[BreezeWood]

In other words, you favor the destruction of souls...

that's the christian bible and the other desert religion myths based on lies as witnessed and extension by jesus in the 1st century they crucified than turn to the true heavens.

 

[BreezeWood]

Does anybody know if BreezeWood is using any of Hitlers arguments?

christianity, desert dwellers voted your hero into office and supported him (H) to the end - as the present time the lowest of human beings they now support.

your failure to respond adequately within the discussion only contributes to your guilt - what type of glue did you use.

 

[Robert W]

that's the christian bible and the other desert religion myths based on lies as witnessed and extension by jesus in the 1st century they crucified than turn to the true heavens.

Did you get that from reading Mein Kampf?