Zone1 Jesus Christ: The MYTH

[Robert W]

You are a little confused.

Dodd Frank wasn't passed until AFTER the banks collapsed under Bush. In fact, it didn't take effect until July 2010. After most people agreed the recession had ended.

That is what I said. Even though it followed the crash that Bush warned Congress was about to happen. Dodd Frank caused a massive number of good top-rated lenders to go out of business. It was the Smoot Hawley act of Democrats.

 

[Robert W]

Fannie mae collapsed because democrats passed the Community reinvestment act under Carter forcing banks to take on quotas of bad to take on quotas of bad loans. The collapse occurred with democrats in control of both house and senate. Chriss Dodd and Barney Fwank blocked reforms that would have prevented it

Fully correct. I was a lender and you nailed the actual causes.

 

[Robert W]

It has also led to the truly amazing, which has been verified. Take a look at yourself and your own life...has it led you into the irrational at times? Just because the irrational also exists, does not negate what is rational. Jesus was not an irrational man. Some of his followers, yes. Judas, perhaps?

You know the truth.

 

[Robert W]

You are a little confused.

Dodd Frank wasn't passed until AFTER the banks collapsed under Bush. In fact, it didn't take effect until July 2010. After most people agreed the recession had ended.

Bush was never a lender. He warned Democrats that congress must take action. They denied it and then the crash happened, that lasted about this long.

 

[Robert W]

Neither of them were Preisdent. Bush was.

the whole of Washington had (and still has) an unhealthy relationship with the banking industry.

But Bush was in charge. It was his disaster.

This has nothing to do with Jesus (who was Bush's favorite philosopher because he probably couldn't name a philosopher on a bet.)

You are very confused. Congress allowed the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac collapse as you were told by Hafar104.
The whole of congress was run by Democrats. Time for you to come back to Republicans JoeB131

 

[MarathonMike]

Actually, quitting the GOP was easy. The inmates took over the asylum.

The Dramacrats are certifiably insane, what in the world are you talking about?

 

[BreezeWood]

Because he never existed

is that the repudiation of judaism that occurred coincidentally to their time of non existence ...

Pontius Pilate, the Roman prefect of Judea (26–36 AD), famously ordered the crucifixion of Jesus and inscribed "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews" in Latin, Greek, and Aramaic on the cross. He acted under pressure from local Jewish leaders to prevent an uprising, despite personally finding no guilt in Jesus.

the murderer barabbas must have reminded the jews of moses ... who, moses likewise never existed more so than jesus.

 

[BreezeWood]

I have seen those scrolls. They were written prior to Jesus showing up.

you must be christian ...

The Dead Sea Scrolls are a collection of roughly 900 manuscripts, dating from 250 B.C.E. to 68 C.E., discovered in Qumran, which provide a direct window into the Jewish world, religious, and sectarian practices during the time of Jesus. While they do not mention Jesus, they illuminate the theological, cultural, and apocalyptic atmosphere of first-century Judea ...

you're not in them for sure.

 

[BreezeWood]

I have read the ten commandments perhaps 20 times. What is bad about them other than they piss off Democrats?

really -

provide the etched tablets claimed by the liar and murder moses are etched in the heavens that were never read by anyone before being destroyed by the same as who either made them up or disagreed w/ the heavenly guide as their only proclamation to triumph good vs evil.

you found the pieces and glued them together ... are they written in american.

 

[Meriweather]

Who said it was vital?

I also don't believe in UFOs, Bigfoot, or the Loch Ness Monster, but their non-existence to me is hardly "vital".

Do you spend as much time online discussing UFOs, Bigfoot, or the Loch Ness Monster as you do discussing no belief in God?

 

[BreezeWood]

Do you spend as much time online discussing UFOs, Bigfoot, or the Loch Ness Monster as you do discussing no belief in God?

as though desert dwellers are any different ...

 

[JoeB131]

That is what I said. Even though it followed the crash that Bush warned Congress was about to happen. Dodd Frank caused a massive number of good top-rated lenders to go out of business. It was the Smoot Hawley act of Democrats.

I think you are so confused thta even you don't know what your argument is.

The Recession happened in 2008.
Dodd-Frank didn't happen until 2010.

None of this has anything to do with why Jesus was an imaginary person.

 

[JoeB131]

Do you spend as much time online discussing UFOs, Bigfoot, or the Loch Ness Monster as you do discussing no belief in God?

Well, since no one is trying to impose ridiculous policies on us in the name of Nessie, I kind of don't need to.

I did actually spend a lot of time on UFO boards discussing how the Grey Aliens are in fact an evolved urban legend, tracing it's correlation to how Hollywood has portrayed aliens. But that's also not the discussion of this thread.

 

[JoeB131]

You are very confused. Congress allowed the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac collapse as you were told by Hafar104.
The whole of congress was run by Democrats. Time for you to come back to Republicans JoeB131

Congress was only run by Democrats for 2 years before the Recession hit.

That's not even a sensible argument.

Bush was president. The laws were adequate, if he was willing to do his job, which he wasn't. The GOP was awash in Bankster money, and it showed in Washington's inaction until it was too late.

Which, again, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT JESUS IS IMAGINARY.

 

[JoeB131]

Okay, now that we are done relitigating the Great Recession, here's why I don't think Jesus was a real person.

1) We have no contemporary accounts of him.
2) Most of the earliest accounts we have of him are written by his followers.
3) Most of the non-Christian sources are suspect, as they were preserved by Christian scribes.
4) Most of the relics (Like the Shroud of Turin or pieces of the True Cross) turned out to be later forgeries.
5) The primary accounts - the Gospels- contradict each other on many key points, depending on the audience they were written for.
6) The stories themselves of miracles are so fantastical to be hard to believe on their face.

Now, could there have been a real guy named Yeshua ben Yosef who was a religious reformer, and this followers just got carried away? Maybe. He might have been an amalgam of multiple persons.

 

[Robert W]

I think you are so confused thta even you don't know what your argument is.

The Recession happened in 2008.
Dodd-Frank didn't happen until 2010.

None of this has anything to do with why Jesus was an imaginary person.

True. I am not confused. I was in that business for many years. Were you?

 

[Robert W]

Congress was only run by Democrats for 2 years before the Recession hit.

That's not even a sensible argument.

Bush was president. The laws were adequate, if he was willing to do his job, which he wasn't. The GOP was awash in Bankster money, and it showed in Washington's inaction until it was too late.

Which, again, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT JESUS IS IMAGINARY.

Jesus was not imaginary. You are imaginary.

 

[Robert W]

really -



you found the pieces and glued them together ... are they written in american.

Do the 10 commandments piss you off?

 

[Meriweather]

Well, since no one is trying to impose ridiculous policies on us in the name of Nessie, I kind of don't need to.

In other words, you favor the destruction of souls...

 

[JoeB131]

In other words, you favor the destruction of souls...

Honestly, if your God is sending people to hell for eating meat during Lent, that makes him a villain, not a hero.

If there is a higher power, I would certainly hope that it isn't the psychopathic deity of the Abrahamic religions.