Jeb Bush Won't Talk About Wars His Brother Started

[2aguy]

"Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) has no interest in "re-litigating" the costly wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which began under his brother's administration."

Too bad.

Such questions are perfectly appropriate and legitimate to ask of a presidential candidate, particularly given the fact the candidate's brother started two failed, illegal wars as president.

No, they succeeded and they were legal...he had resolutions on the use of force for the efforts....and we lost the peace...we won the wars....

 

[JimH52]

I'm not a Jeb fan but he isn't stupid enough to let libs drag him into their sewer.

You mean the sewer that his brother created......right?

I said 'their' so you must mean liberal. Yes, many on the left, including Hillary voted for the war. How you idiots are going to deal with that come election time will be amusing.

We have been over this before. The vote on the war was based on Bush and DICK lies.

 

[Iceweasel]

I'm not a Jeb fan but he isn't stupid enough to let libs drag him into their sewer.

You mean the sewer that his brother created......right?

I said 'their' so you must mean liberal. Yes, many on the left, including Hillary voted for the war. How you idiots are going to deal with that come election time will be amusing.

We have been over this before. The vote on the war was based on Bush and DICK lies.

And you didn't learn a fucking thing because the intel committee is by partisan by law. Hillary saw everything every one else did. Only a complete retard would think there was evidence that Bush lied and yet no action was taken by the left. LOL, that ship ain't gonna sail.

 

[Lakhota]

Bush and Cheney should be thankful that Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House when she said "impeachment is off the table". Although they certainly deserved impeachment, she did the right thing for the country at that time.

BTW, Bush and Cheney refused to answer any questions "under oath". They knew better...

 

[TooTall]

I'm sure Jeb can also expect questions about his role as Governor of Florida regarding the 2000 presidential election.

Which one of the Supreme Court Justices did Jeb Bush bribe to get them to stop the recount foolishness?

How Jeb Bush Stole the 2000 Election for His Brother

Bush brother blamed for unfair election - The Guardian

Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush and former Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris put Bush in the White House.

An attempt to rewrite history by lefties won't put Gore in the White House. The Supreme Court ruled and that settled it period!

Yeah, but WHY did the Supreme Court have to settle it?

Mostly because it was absurd to continue the recount. Ruling on law suits is what the Supreme Court does, and it did.

 

[TooTall]

911 was a random attack. It could have happened to anyone.

But it DIDN'T happen to everyone did it? How fortunate for Dick Cheney and the Halliburton Corp. They apparently won the lottery! YIPPIE!!!!

Since Cheney donated all of his Halliburton stock to charity, they are who won the lottery. Of course I couldn't expect you do know that.

 

[Lakhota]

It is well-documented that George W. Bush was planning to invade Iraq before 9/11. That would be very difficult for Jeb to debate or defend.

The Downing Street Memo

 

[HUGGY]

911 was a random attack. It could have happened to anyone.

But it DIDN'T happen to everyone did it? How fortunate for Dick Cheney and the Halliburton Corp. They apparently won the lottery! YIPPIE!!!!

Since Cheney donated all of his Halliburton stock to charity, they are who won the lottery. Of course I couldn't expect you do know that.

UHHhh...no he did not. He put his stock in the custody of a lawyer to separate himself from the appearance of in-propitiatory. What he did was make his closest associates filthy rich. Only a fool believes Cheney did not reap fabulous financial reward for pursuing his agenda for the New American Century which he could get no interest in before he became Vice President. 9/11 was what Cheney dreamed of to finally make his dream reality.

 

[Lakhota]

Why did President George W. Bush ignore all the pre-9/11 warnings? Can Jeb answer that question?

• The Bush White House Was Deaf to 9/11 Warnings - NYTimes.com
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[TooTall]

911 was a random attack. It could have happened to anyone.

But it DIDN'T happen to everyone did it? How fortunate for Dick Cheney and the Halliburton Corp. They apparently won the lottery! YIPPIE!!!!

Since Cheney donated all of his Halliburton stock to charity, they are who won the lottery. Of course I couldn't expect you do know that.

UHHhh...no he did not. He put his stock in the custody of a lawyer to separate himself from the appearance of in-propitiatory. What he did was make his closest associates filthy rich. Only a fool believes Cheney did not reap fabulous financial reward for pursuing his agenda for the New American Century which he could get no interest in before he became Vice President. 9/11 was what Cheney dreamed of to finally make his dream reality.

I can get a link to what I posted. Let me see a credible link to the BS you just posted.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Ok, let's get some facts straight about the Florida recounts in the 2000 election:

1. The Gore team only asked for manual recounts in four heavily Democratic counties. If they were so concerned that "every vote be counted," why didn't they ask for a manual recount in every county that had a significant percentage of uncounted votes?

2. The Florida Supreme Court (FLSC), which was composed of seven Democrats, extended the seven-day deadline set by the legislature for certification. The law set a specific deadline for certifying election results. Article 1, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution stipulates that state legislatures are to determine the time, manner and place of elections. State supreme courts do not have that authority. The FLSC overstepped its authority and acted as a legislature, and therefore its decision to order a statewide recount deserved to be overturned. See:

http://reason.com/0103/fe.re.election.shtml

3. The FLSC's decision to order a statewide recount of undervotes in Florida was decided by a narrow 4-3 margin. In other words, even three of the seven Democrats who comprised the FLSC dissented, including the chief justice of the court, Charles Wells. Chief Justice Wells wrote a stinging dissent, in which, among other things, he said the court's ruling had no foundation in Florida law:

I believe that the majority's decision cannot withstand the scrutiny which will certainly immediately follow under the United States Constitution. . . . The majority's decision to return this case to the circuit court for a count of the undervotes from either Miami-Dade County or all counties has no foundation in the law of Florida as it existed on Nov. 7, 2000, or at any time until the issuance of this opinion. . . . The prolonging of judicial process in this counting contest propels this country and this state into an unprecedented and unnecessary constitutional crisis. . . . I have to conclude that there is a real and present likelihood that this constitutional crisis will do substantial damage to our country, to our state and to this court as an institution.​

4. Seven of the nine SCOTUS justices agreed that the statewide recount was constitutionally problematic. Justices Stephen Breyer and David Souter wanted to give Florida six more days to complete the statewide recount, but they agreed there were equal protection problems with the recount process. They voted with the minority because the five conservatives insisted on demanding that the statewide recount be completed by December 12. As Joseph Farrah observes,

To remind everyone what happened in that historic ruling, the court ruled 7-2 that the recount system in place did not meet constitutional muster. Seven justices in all found an equal protection violation. Five found three violations of federal law.​

Where the court was split more closely (5-4) was on the remedy. Only five justices agreed that recounts must stop by Dec. 12, the state of Florida's deadline for certifying elections. Two other justices, David Souter and Stephen Breyer, would have given the recounts six more days because Dec. 18 was the federal deadline for certifying the list of electors. ("Setting the Clintons Straight," WorldNetDaily, November 7, 2002, Setting the Clintons straight)​

5. The FLSC did not order a statewide manual recount of all uncounted votes, but only a recount of the undervotes, i.e., the ballots that didn't register a vote when they were read by vote-counting machines. Berkowitz and Wittes explain:

It was not a full manual recount of the presidential vote. Nor was it a full manual recount of undamaged ballots that failed to yield a valid, machine-readable vote for president, as would appear to have been required by the Florida Supreme Court's own principle that all votes should be counted in pursuit of a "clear indication of the intent of the voter." Rather, the Florida court ordered a manual recount of a subset of the so-called nonvotes, the undervotes, which are ballots (estimated to number about 60,000) with no machine-readable vote for president. Despite the objections raised by Florida chief justice Charles T. Wells in his dissent, indeed without explanation, the majority excluded from the recount overvotes, an entire class of undamaged ballots (estimated to number about 110,000) that were invalidated because machines detected multiple votes for president. And yet, like the undervotes, they too may have contained (and we now know did contain) discernible choices. ("The Professors and Bush v. Gore")​

6. It wasn't Bush's fault that the four Gore-selected counties couldn't complete their manual recounts prior to the statutory certification deadline. One of the counties that Gore selected, Miami-Dade County, didn't even begin its manual recount until after the statutory certification deadline had passed. Then, Miami-Dade County suspended its manual recount five days after it started it. Another one of the four Gore-selected counties, heavily Democratic Palm Beach County, failed to complete its manual recount even by the extended deadline set by the FLSC because it chose to only work half days and to take Thanksgiving Day off! It wasn't Bush's fault that the Democratic election officials in Palm Beach County were so lazy and inefficient even though the outcome of the presidential election was on the line.

7. The Gore campaign targeted military ballots for rejection on any technical grounds no matter how trivial. Gore lawyer Mark Herron sent a five-page letter on November 15, 2000, to Democratic attorneys throughout Florida, detailing how to challenge military absentee ballots. This certainly didn't seem to be in keeping with the Gore team's battle cry of "count all the votes" and "every vote should be counted."

8. One of the Gore-selected counties, Broward County, changed the criteria for determining votes from manually counted ballots in the middle of the first manual recount. Broward County began their recount using a strict standard for determining votes, which primarily required clear punches or chads hanging by one or two corners in order for a vote to be counted. About midway through the process, the standard was changed to a more liberal standard, which allowed dimples and pregnant chads to be considered primary evidence of voter intent. This change gave Gore an extra 884 votes. Changing the rules in the middle of the game is not usually viewed as fair or proper.

9. Another one of the Gore-selected counties, Palm Beach County, also changed vote-counting standards during the manual recounts. Before the recount got under way, the canvassing board set a hard, clear policy on "how to judge invalid ballots." According to those rules, a vote could be counted from a ballot only if the ballot's chads had two or three corners disconnected. But, just hours into the recount, the canvassing board, which was controlled by Democrats, changed the standard to a more liberal one in which only one corner of the chads had to be disconnected.

10. One can make the perfectly valid argument that Bush won the Florida election among votes that were properly and legally cast. It wasn't his fault that so many Democratic voters in Palm Beach County couldn't figure out the butterfly ballot, which, after all, was designed by a Democrat. Nor was it Bush's fault that so many Gore voters made extra marks on their ballots, which caused them to be disqualified (as overvotes).

11. There would have been more time for a court-ordered recount in the contest phase if Gore hadn't challenged the certification of the election results, as Katherine Harris points out in her new book, Center of the Storm. Some of Gore's legal advisors urged him not to challenge the certification but to focus on the contest phase that would follow certification. If Gore had done this, there may have been enough time to complete the manual recounts. But, Gore chose to listen to his political advisors rather than his legal advisors. Gore's political advisors were afraid that if Bush were "certified" as the winner, this would create the impression that the election was over. So Gore chose to contest the certification. He failed, and in the process he used up precious time that could have been used for the manual recounts. That wasn't Bush's fault either.

12. Bush may have received several thousand more votes in Florida if the TV news networks had not prematurely projected Florida as going to Gore even though he had only a razor thin lead and even though the polls in the heavily Republican Florida panhandle region were still open. The Florida panhandle is in the central time zone, an hour behind the rest of the Florida. There were reports of long lines at the polls in that area, and of people leaving when they heard the state had been called for Gore. Some analysts suggest the media's premature projection of a winner in Florida may have cost Bush as many as 10,000 votes from the panhandle. Other analysts put the number at around 5,000 votes. If this is true, the recounts may never have been requested in the first place because Bush would have had a much larger lead from the first machine count. See:

Newsmax.com - Breaking news from around the globe U.S. news politics world health finance video science technology live news stream

At Any Cost How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election Bill Sammon 9780895262271 Amazon.com Books

(However, some experts argue that the effect of the premature media projections for Gore was minimal.)

13. Bush may have won a statewide manual recount. An independent accounting firm studied over 20,000 of the Florida undervotes and concluded a manual recount of the undervote ballots would not have produced a Gore victory. Studies have also shown that Bush would have won if the first manual recounts had been allowed to continue (i.e., if the recounts in the four Gore-selected counties had been completed). Another study found that Bush would have won in three of nine recount scenarios. In an article titled "Under the Two Most Likely Scenarios, Bush Wins Florida," Palm Beach Post staff writers said,

Al Gore was doomed. He couldn't have caught George W. Bush even if his two best chances for an official recount had played out, according to a Palm Beach Post analysis of 175,010 uncounted Florida ballots from last November's chaotic presidential election.​

 

[Judicial review]

Jeb campaign is finished before it even began.

 

[Lakhota]

Jeb campaign is finished before it even began.

I agree! All the questions raised in this thread, and many more, are all fair game. Will Jeb try to "punt" like Scott Walker?

 

[Lakhota]

Florida GOP Takes Voter Suppression to a Brazen New Extreme

Back in 2000, 12,000 eligible voters – a number twenty-two times larger than George W. Bush’s 537 vote triumph over Al Gore – were wrongly identified as convicted felons and purged from the voting rolls in Florida, according to the Brennan Center for Justice. African Americans, who favored Gore over Bush by 86 points, accounted for 11 percent of the state’s electorate but 41 percent of those purged. Jeb Bush attempted a repeat performance in 2004 to help his brother win reelection but was forced to back off in the face of a public outcry. Yet with another close election looming, Florida Republicans have returned to their voter-scrubbing ways.

Following the 2000 election, a major report from the US Commission on Civil Rights found that "statistical data, reinforced by credible anecdotal evidence, point to the widespread denial of voting rights [in Florida]."

More: Florida GOP Takes Voter Suppression to a Brazen New Extreme - Rolling Stone

Florida. How Soon We Forget.

Of course this year will not be the first time Floridians have had trouble casting a ballot. Most of us remember the perfect storm of Florida election administration that kept the 2000 presidential election hanging on 537 votes for over a month, only to be finally handed to George W. Bush by a 5-4 vote backing an unsigned Supreme Court opinion.

The pathetic scene in 2000 was created by a convergence of administrative errors, technical glitches and a lack of judgment at the highest levels of election administration: broken polling machines, inaccurate and incomplete voter registration lists, inadequate language translation, inaccessible polling places, poorly trained poll workers and an overall lack of preparation for a large voter turnout that created long lines, eligible voters being turned away and valid votes left uncounted.

Although voters across the state were stymied that year, poor and minority communities suffered the worst of it. In a reportdocumenting its comprehensive investigation of the 2000 election, the United States Commission on Civil Rights found that approximately 11 percent of Florida voters in 2000 were African-American; yet African-Americans cast more than half of the 180,000 rejected ballots. The commission found that “statistical data, reinforced by credible anecdotal evidence, point to the widespread denial of voting rights.” The report then concluded that “the disenfranchisement of Florida’s voters fell most harshly on the shoulders of black voters.”

More: Florida. How Soon We Forget. - The New York Times

Voter roll purge in the 2000 Florida election - SourceWatch

Just more proof that Governor Jeb Bush rigged the 2000 Florida presidential election for his brother.

 

[blackhawk]

Well by the fact the far left loons are ranting about the 2000 election and the fact Scott Walker did not graduate college we now know who is currently scarring them shitless.

 

[AmericanFirst]

I'm sure Jeb can also expect questions about his role as Governor of Florida regarding the 2000 presidential election.

SCOTUS made that decision not Jeb. Still sore because the idiot Gore lost his attempt at election theft.

 

[Lakhota]

I'm sure Jeb can also expect questions about his role as Governor of Florida regarding the 2000 presidential election.

SCOTUS made that decision not Jeb. Still sore because the idiot Gore lost his attempt at election theft.

Yes, but WHY did SCOTUS have to make that decision? Didn't you read my post #54?

 

[AmericanFirst]

I'm sure Jeb can also expect questions about his role as Governor of Florida regarding the 2000 presidential election.

SCOTUS made that decision not Jeb. Still sore because the idiot Gore lost his attempt at election theft.

Yes, but WHY did SCOTUS have to make that decision? Didn't you read my post #54?

Because Gore tried to steal the election, he got slapped down thank goodness for America.

 

[1stRambo]

Jeb Bush is an elitist Republican favorite! I am not for another Bush!!! I will vote Republican, because after 8 years of a total failure "Dictator Socialist Democrat" in the White House, its never to late to fix the plumbing! We just need a Republican with some "BALLS" and not a Tiny Tim Obama wannabe! Hillary Clinton is the spitting image of Obama, she can look dead in the camera and LIE her ass off, plus she had another good teacher, Bill Clinton!!! If you vote for a Democrat, you are voting for the total destruction of the U.S.A.!!!

 

[AmericanFirst]

Jeb Bush is an elitist Republican favorite! I am not for another Bush!!! I will vote Republican, because after 8 years of a total failure "Dictator Socialist Democrat" in the White House, its never to late to fix the plumbing! We just need a Republican with some "BALLS" and not a Tiny Tim Obama wannabe! Hillary Clinton is the spitting image of Obama, she can look dead in the camera and LIE her ass off, plus she had another good teacher, Bill Clinton!!! If you vote for a Democrat, you are voting for the total destruction of the U.S.A.!!!

I don't want another Bush or Clinton in either.