January 6 Was Not A Coup

Ok, so in the contested States they had an 'alternative slate of Electors', And that slate was to be forwarded to Congress as well as the State appointed Electors...I have looked, and can't find where that is illegal...I don't see any indictments, or convictions of breaking any laws....This seems more a bid to keep Trump's hopes alive in the wake of no concession in these States....In fact, if I recall, Hillary told Biden before the election not to concede...Should Hillary and Biden be charged as well?

3 U.S. Code § 6 - Credentials of electors; transmission to Archivist of the United States and to Congress; public inspection

it shall also thereupon be the duty of the executive of each State to deliver to the electors of such State, on or before the day on which they are required by section 7 of this title to meet, six duplicate-originals of the same certificate under the seal of the State;

The executives of each state are the governors. The governors in each of those contested states submitted slates for Biden, not Trump. So someone else, other than the governor, had to send those slates.

So no, they were neither "alternative" slates nor "legal" slates.

What else ya got?
 
Of course you did. You as why I'm "talking about this like it’s settled fact." I already pointed out it's still under investigation. There is no "settled fact." So all anyone can offer up until this point is opinion.
Well good....we all have opinions...
 
it shall also thereupon be the duty of the executive of each State to deliver to the electors of such State, on or before the day on which they are required by section 7 of this title to meet, six duplicate-originals of the same certificate under the seal of the State;

The executives of each state are the governors. The governors in each of those contested states submitted slates for Biden, not Trump. So someone else, other than the governor, had to send those slates.

So no, they were neither "alternative" slates nor "legal" slates.

What else ya got?
Well good...It seems for anything close to that to have a chance is if the VP recognized the alternative slates....He didn't...So, no laws broken...
 
Ok, so in the contested States they had an 'alternative slate of Electors',

So no, they were neither "alternative" slates nor "legal" slates.


Well he does have Trump saying when white Christian nationalists like him, lie about election fraud, the laws do not apply to him and his cult followers.

“”” Trump told the crowd that ‘very different rules’ applied. 21JAN06-DJTincite-05

“When you catch somebody in a fraud, you are allowed to go by very different rules. So I hope Mike has the courage to do what he has to do, and I hope he doesn’t listen to the RINOs and the stupid people that he’s listening to.” “””​
Lynching his own VP must be one of those very different rules he had in mind.​
 
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Well good...It seems for anything close to that to have a chance is if the VP recognized the alternative slates....He didn't...So, no laws broken...

Probably not true. Just printing up those certificates, which were fake, had fake seals, had signatures of fake electors, sounds like forgery at the state level. Submitting fake documents to the national archive sounds like a federal crime. Whoever dreamed up that scheme and implemented, sounds like conspiracy. And the details of that plan, which appear in the Eastman memo, which was to serve as ammo for Pence to pick Trump electors over Biden, could rise to the level of seditious conspiracy.
 
Well good...It seems for anything close to that to have a chance is if the VP recognized the alternative slates....He didn't...So, no laws broken...

Trump was told that the fake electors plant was illegal. Mike Pence is legal counsel explain to trump why he could not recognize the fake electors. Instead not want to commit fraud.

But Trump’s problem just begins because he was informed of Mike Pence’s decision on January 5, but Trump went ahead and wanted to march with armed protesters to the Capitol to “stop the steal” which means there was an intent to disrupt the proceeding physically after the “ by fraud scheme” failed because Mike Pence does not want to be a criminal.
 
After December 14 2020 when all states certified the real electors Trump was no longer a contender. He is the official certified loser having absolutely no say whatsoever to assure the election was valid. The states officially and Constitutionally did that on or before December 14z
It was Pence's job to throw out the fraudulent votes.
 
The VP is supposed to work with Congress to get the fraudulent votes thrown out.
You’re full of crap because that is not what Trump wanted Mike Pence to do. Mike Pence was being asked by Donald J Trump to recognize the bogus fake electors from Michigan Wisconsin Arizona Georgia Pennsylvania Nevada in New Mexico.

There was no way to identify and throw out fraudulent votes because basically there weren’t any of any significance, and by January 6 there were not any votes that were identified as fraudulent.

Since no one could identify the number of fraudulent votes on January 6 Trump wanted Mike Pence to throw the entirety of those seven states votes out.

It was a plan to not count the seven states mentioned that Trump lost.

Trump wanted to throw out all the votes in Michigan Wisconsin Arizona Georgia Nevada and New Mexico and Pennsylvania. Throw every presidential vote out in those states.

If you lived in that state and you had a legitimate vote you no longer will have your vote count.

By doing that the plot to overturn the election had Mike Pence expected to declare Trump the winner of the election because Biden no longer had those seven states counted in his electoral vote total.

According to the Eastman plan when Mike Pence declares trump the winner of the election, it would throw America into a constitutional crisis and full-blown chaos.

The next part of the plan was to use the chaos to send the determination of the election to the house of representatives.

There the Republicans had a 26 to 24 advantage and according to the constitution in a disputed election, it would be expected that the house of representatives Republicans would choose Trump to be the winner.

At that time the entire 150 million people who voted have now been disenfranchised because Mike Pence decided to create chaos and throw the election to 26 Republican districts where the HOUSE REPS would have the final say.

The entire Eastman plan was an attempted coup that Mike Pence foiled and it had absolutely nothing to do with throwing out fraudulent votes.

The plan was to throw out all the votes, every legitimate vote. And you fascist Trump supporters are good with that. Shame on you all
 
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@lennypartivoo
The VP is supposed to work with Congress to get the fraudulent votes thrown out.

No: All fifty states met the constitutional requirement to certify their election results by December 8 and have the electors chosen by December 14. The Biden victory is in what they call “safe harbor“ which means there can no longer be challenges to this election and now the business in Congress was to get down to create conditions to have the peaceful transfer of power to the new president who would be inaugurated on January 20.

There is nothing in the constitution that can change a certified election they all 50 states after December 14. Everything tempted every December 14 was a violation of the Constitution. And some of it was a violation of federal law
 
No he didn't. None of the fraudulent votes were thrown out.

Let me show you how stupid you are....

According you and nutbags like you, Biden/Harris could run again in 2024 in a rematch against Trump/and whoever... Trump could win in a landslide victory; but according to you, on January 6th, 2025 -- President Biden can simply cry fraud and Vice President Harris can unilaterally reject Trump electors or even just decertify the election so that Biden wins 4 more years.

Then in 2028, wielding such enormous power not confered upon a VP by the Constitution, Kamala Harris, not bound by the 22nd Amendment, can pick any running mate she wants as her president since she can't lose.

Savvy?

What you're claiming Pence could have done, Kamala Harris could do, if you actually knew what you were talking about -- effectively making her Vice President for life. And when she dies, she gets replaced with another Democrat who then does the same thing and becomes Vice President for the rest of their life.

Your idiocy would mean this country would never see another Republican in the White House ever again.

If that makes sense to you, that only means you need a lobotomy.
 
The VP is supposed to work with Congress to get the fraudulent votes thrown out.

Imbecile, aside from the fact that the Constitution only instructs the VP to open the certificates, Trump's insidious plan didn't include Pence working with Congress. His plan was for Pence to unilaterally hand Trump the election on a silver platter with zero input from Congress.
 
I didn't know that.
Will the poster show us the clause in the Constitution that governs that alleged requirement in the Constitution.

No, that moron won't show that to you. He can't since it doesn't exist anywhere beyond his empty skull.
 
You’re full of crap because that is not what Trump wanted Mike Pence to do. Mike Pence was being asked by Donald J Trump to recognize the bogus fake electors from Michigan Wisconsin Arizona Georgia Pennsylvania Nevada in New Mexico.

There was no way to identify and throw out fraudulent votes because basically there weren’t any of any significance, and by January 6 there were not any votes that were identified as fraudulent.

Since no one could identify the number of fraudulent votes on January 6 Trump wanted Mike Pence to throw the entirety of those seven states votes out.

It was a plan to not count the seven states mentioned that Trump lost.

Trump wanted to throw out all the votes in Michigan Wisconsin Arizona Georgia Nevada and New Mexico and Pennsylvania. Throw every presidential vote out in those states.

If you lived in that state and you had a legitimate vote you no longer will have your vote count.

By doing that the plot to overturn the election had Mike Pence expected to declare Trump the winner of the election because Biden no longer had those seven states counted in his electoral vote total.

According to the Eastman plan when Mike Pence declares trump the winner of the election, it would throw America into a constitutional crisis and full-blown chaos.

The next part of the plan was to use the chaos to send the determination of the election to the house of representatives.

There the Republicans had a 26 to 24 advantage and according to the constitution in a disputed election, it would be expected that the house of representatives Republicans would choose Trump to be the winner.

At that time the entire 150 million people who voted have now been disenfranchised because Mike Pence decided to create chaos and throw the election to 26 Republican districts where the HOUSE REPS would have the final say.

The entire Eastman plan was an attempted coup that Mike Pence foiled and it had absolutely nothing to do with throwing out fraudulent votes.

The plan was to throw out all the votes, every legitimate vote. And you fascist Trump supporters are good with that. Shame on you all

According to the Eastman plan when Mike Pence declares trump the winner of the election, it would throw America into a constitutional crisis and full-blown chaos.

You minimize the irreparable damage that would have impaled in our Democracy. It would have been the end of the USA. That would have resulted this country having 2 presidents; Biden accepted only by the left and Trump, accepted only by the right. If it even went to the courts before all-out civil war broke out, only one side would have respected any solutions the courts tried to cobble together. Pence literally saved the country.
 
You’re full of crap because that is not what Trump wanted Mike Pence to do. Mike Pence was being asked by Donald J Trump to recognize the bogus fake electors from Michigan Wisconsin Arizona Georgia Pennsylvania Nevada in New Mexico.
Sure. After the fraudulent votes were thrown out, the new electors would be the right electors.
 

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