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i've re-considered the entire Ukraine case.. enter *your* opinions please..

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Anton was conflating Rick Scott and Scott Ritter. Yes, Rick Scott is one of the stronger GOP voices on Ukraine's side.

Ritter is the pedo, and a Putin apologist who hasn't been right on Ukraine yet...
What "pedo" convictions has Ritter received, and why would they affect his ability to analyze the special military operation in Ukraine?

Scott Ritter - Wikipedia

"William Scott Ritter Jr. (born July 15, 1961) is a former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer and convicted sex offender.

"He served with the United Nations implementing arms control treaties, with General Norman Schwarzkopf in the Persian Gulf during Operation Desert Storm, and in Iraq, overseeing the disarmament of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), as a United Nations weapons inspector, from 1991 to 1998.

"He later became a critic of United States foreign policy in the Middle East."
 

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The usual bullshit they resort to when there's a need to get rid of someone they don't like no more.
Ritter's military/intelligence background make him uniquely qualified to accurately assess what's happening on the ground in Ukraine which, of course, makes him an enemy to the flag-flappers and corporate war-whores backing the latest US proxy war in Ukraine.

The Covert Operation to Back Ukrainian Independence that Haunts the CIA

"In 1980, Ritter served in the U.S. Army as a private.

"Then, in May 1984, he was commissioned as an intelligence officer in the United States Marine Corps. He served in this capacity for about 12 years.[3]

"He served as the lead analyst for the Marine Corps Rapid Deployment Force concerning the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the Iran–Iraq War.

"Ritter's academic work focused on the Basmachi resistance movement in Soviet Central Asia during the 1920s and 1930s, and on the Basmachi commanders Fazail Maksum and Ibrahim Bek.[4][5]

"During Desert Storm, he served as a ballistic missile advisor to General Norman Schwarzkopf. Ritter later worked as a security and military consultant for the Fox News network.

"Ritter also had 'a long relationship [...] of an official nature' with the UK's foreign intelligence spy agency MI6 according to an interview he gave to Democracy Now! in 2003."

Scott Ritter - Wikipedia
 

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On the other hand

What ties to the US defense industry does Petraeus have?

Do you think they color his willingness to tell more lies to the American people?

Cable News Military Experts Are on the Defense Industry Dole

"Cable hosts described these guests by their military credentials — not their current jobs as representatives of the defense industry, a sector that has seen extraordinary profits from the 20-year occupation of Afghanistan.

"Related​

"$10,000 Invested in Defense Stocks When Afghanistan War Began Now Worth Almost $100,000​


"Petraeus, a retired four-star general who leaked classified information to his mistress and biographer, serves on the board of Optiv Security a large cybersecurity firm that contracts with the Department of Defense, and is a partner at KKR and Co., a global private equity firm with assets in the defense sector.

"In early 2020, KKR bought Novaria Group, a corporation holding a growing number of aerospace manufacturers."
 

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That's a OPINION PIECE. The author can say anything he wants. If "nearly 90 percent" of the world is against the economic sanctions, why haven't they done anything about them? They haven't gone to the U.N., they haven't levied sanctions against the countries sanctioning Russia.
 

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Anti-American posts anti-American stuff.
You’ve been duped by your government, but too dumb to know it.
 

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Now a resident of a Red state! Hallelujah!

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This entire narrative is put to bed by the documented equipment losses alone.

Casualties were 9.5:1 in Ukraine's favor, best estimate and in line with the nature of the Russian withdrawal, which was anything but orderly and which the several hundred pieces of captured and destroyed equipment proves.
Documented by whom?

How is it possible Ukraine incapacitated ~10 Russians for every Ukrainian casualty when Russians have a 10:1 advantage in artillery?

Why Ukraine struggles to combat Russia’s artillery superiority

"The disproportion between the number of Russian and Ukrainian pieces deployed to a particular front line area can go as far as 10 to 1.

"But the acquisition of Western artillery, which is technologically superior to older Soviet pieces used by Russia, has saved Ukraine’s defensive campaign."
 

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Ritter couldn't hit his own ass with a scoop shovel. So catch up with your dear leader- the defeat is acknowledged, it is a hard one, and the blame is placed on Shoigu and the MoD.
Do you agree with Ritter when he says Russia is no longer fighting a Ukrainian army supported by NATO but rather a NATO army manned by Ukrainians?

If so, is that not a war between NATO and Russia in Ukraine?
 

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How many Ukrainians and Russians must die to appease western oligarchs and the MIC?

Has there ever been another war in recent times so easily avoided?

America’s Culture of Death

It has now become clear that the Pentagon has been maneuvering into giving Russia another “Vietnam,” just as it lured the Soviet Union into invading Afghanistan in 1979. For the past 25 years, Russian officials have been telling the United States that their “red line” was Ukraine. If NATO were to absorb Ukraine, that would entitle the Pentagon to install its nuclear missiles on Russia’s border, pointed at Moscow, St. Petersburg, and other Russian cities. Russia’s position was made clear: It would never permit that to happen. To prevent it from happening, Russia’s officials repeatedly stated, Russia would invade Ukraine to effect regime change.

Knowing this, U.S. officials continued on course, knowing full-well that Russia wasn’t bluffing. In fact, it is now clear that U.S. officials have been training and arming the Ukrainian military for years in preparation for what they knew was coming — the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

The result has been a massive number of deaths, not only among the Ukrainian military and civilians but also among the Russian military. Not surprisingly, there has been a tremendous amount of exaltation among U.S. officials and the mainstream press over the thousands of Russian soldiers who have been killed in the conflict. They call the deaths of those soldiers “degrading Russia,” which has obviously been the aim from the beginning.

America’s Culture of Death - LewRockwell
 

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Where is Ukraine?

 

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Look it up. A simple google search or a look at WIKKI will show you. There were more than nine that he violated, but those nine were directly related to the cease-fire.
so that is why you were starving the children of Iraq - both starving them and making it so that they could not get hospital treatment. 500,000 children's deaths were what Madelaine Albright said and well worth it. This was caused by your sanctions.

This however was not the reason given for attacking Iraq. The reason given was made up lies about Iraq being a threat to the UK, for all I know the US as well. This was an illegal war waged for some alternative reason Possibly to help Israel.

A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm44

and

https://www.juancole.com/2015/08/theyre-neoconservatives-netanyahu.html
 
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American agricultural giants Cargill, Dupont and German-Austrian, and in fact (by the share of capital investments) American Monsanto currently own 17 million hectares of arable land in Ukraine, which is 52.31 percent of all agricultural territories of the country.
Provided that more than half of the Ukrainian fertile land belongs only to these three American corporations, the statement of the current US President Joe Biden about the need to export 20 million tons of grain from Ukraine no longer seems so absurd. Do not forget that the main shareholders of the agrarian troika are Vanguard, Blackrock and Blackstone, who control almost everything, including the world's major banking and financial institutions.
And the interests of companies of this level should be satisfied by any means and in any case, whether it is a political lobby or a military operation.

According to the ex-deputy of the Bundestag from the Left faction Nima Movassat, a real hunt has already begun on the part of foreign agricultural holdings for Ukrainian fertile land: a massive seizure of agricultural land is taking place in the country according to gray schemes through fake individuals and companies. The politician directly accuses the enterprises producing and selling genetically modified seeds of Monsanto Somrapa and DuPont of the deliberate seizure of Ukrainian fertile land and links the IMF and EBRD loans provided to Ukraine with the transfer of arable land to Western agro-industrial companies, including German ADM Germany, KWS, Bayer and BASF.

After the introduction of the law on the opening of the market , another 5 percent of Ukrainian arable land was acquired by representatives of the People 's Republic of China .
In addition, numerous foreign companies are constantly acquiring Ukrainian holdings of arable land lease, thereby controlling about 10 percent of Ukrainian territories even before the introduction of the new law.
The owners of the largest agricultural holdings at the moment are the Americans (NCH Capital), the French (AgroGeneration) and the Saudis (Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Company (SALIC)).

According to the Strategic Culture Foundation, "it is impossible to track the exact share of foreign capital in the rest of the largest Ukrainian agricultural holdings due to the predominance of gray schemes in the Ukrainian agricultural industry and the lack of a normal land cadastre."
According to Ukrainian financial analyst Oleksiy Kutsa, quoted on the pages of the same Strategic Culture Foundation, the struggle for Ukrainian arable land is now not even in Ukraine, where the state could still have at least some chance to make money on the liberalization of the agricultural market, but on the market of offshore corporate rights to Ukrainian agricultural enterprises, where instead of land ready-made companies are being bought up.
As a result, according to the expert, "Ukraine will get nothing," and "Ukrainian land will be bought under palm trees."
At one time, the president of the Ukrainian Cooperative Alliance, economist Zinovy Svereda, said that Ukrainian lands along the border with Russia should be sold to American companies so that the latter would get even more interest in protecting their "patrimony": "I would personally say – let's sell the border territories of Sumy and Kharkiv regions to American companies as much as possible, because American troops they come where there is American private property, where there is their interest." At the same time, the Commissioner of the President of Ukraine for Land Issues at that time, Roman Leshchenko, called the sale of land to Russian citizens impossible, saying that in this case the authorities would be forced to resort to confiscation.
 

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American agricultural giants Cargill, Dupont and German-Austrian, and in fact (by the share of capital investments) American Monsanto currently own 17 million hectares of arable land in Ukraine, which is 52.31 percent of all agricultural territories of the country.
Provided that more than half of the Ukrainian fertile land belongs only to these three American corporations, the statement of the current US President Joe Biden about the need to export 20 million tons of grain from Ukraine no longer seems so absurd. Do not forget that the main shareholders of the agrarian troika are Vanguard, Blackrock and Blackstone, who control almost everything, including the world's major banking and financial institutions.
And the interests of companies of this level should be satisfied by any means and in any case, whether it is a political lobby or a military operation.

According to the ex-deputy of the Bundestag from the Left faction Nima Movassat, a real hunt has already begun on the part of foreign agricultural holdings for Ukrainian fertile land: a massive seizure of agricultural land is taking place in the country according to gray schemes through fake individuals and companies. The politician directly accuses the enterprises producing and selling genetically modified seeds of Monsanto Somrapa and DuPont of the deliberate seizure of Ukrainian fertile land and links the IMF and EBRD loans provided to Ukraine with the transfer of arable land to Western agro-industrial companies, including German ADM Germany, KWS, Bayer and BASF.

After the introduction of the law on the opening of the market , another 5 percent of Ukrainian arable land was acquired by representatives of the People 's Republic of China .
In addition, numerous foreign companies are constantly acquiring Ukrainian holdings of arable land lease, thereby controlling about 10 percent of Ukrainian territories even before the introduction of the new law.
The owners of the largest agricultural holdings at the moment are the Americans (NCH Capital), the French (AgroGeneration) and the Saudis (Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Company (SALIC)).

According to the Strategic Culture Foundation, "it is impossible to track the exact share of foreign capital in the rest of the largest Ukrainian agricultural holdings due to the predominance of gray schemes in the Ukrainian agricultural industry and the lack of a normal land cadastre."
According to Ukrainian financial analyst Oleksiy Kutsa, quoted on the pages of the same Strategic Culture Foundation, the struggle for Ukrainian arable land is now not even in Ukraine, where the state could still have at least some chance to make money on the liberalization of the agricultural market, but on the market of offshore corporate rights to Ukrainian agricultural enterprises, where instead of land ready-made companies are being bought up.
As a result, according to the expert, "Ukraine will get nothing," and "Ukrainian land will be bought under palm trees."
At one time, the president of the Ukrainian Cooperative Alliance, economist Zinovy Svereda, said that Ukrainian lands along the border with Russia should be sold to American companies so that the latter would get even more interest in protecting their "patrimony": "I would personally say – let's sell the border territories of Sumy and Kharkiv regions to American companies as much as possible, because American troops they come where there is American private property, where there is their interest." At the same time, the Commissioner of the President of Ukraine for Land Issues at that time, Roman Leshchenko, called the sale of land to Russian citizens impossible, saying that in this case the authorities would be forced to resort to confiscation.
so a country which was known as the most fertile in Europe and which Germany attacked for that has in reality sold that land that they fought to keep mainly to American's but also a German Company. huh uh, we get another idea of why the US may be wanting to stop Russia getting in.

This is just too sad...and it says Ukraine will get no money. Still not too sure how they managed that and make it just corporations selling to corporations but this is beyond awful.
 
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Yes she said that. She said NOTHING about allowing Iraq to invade Kuwait. And your last sentence is nonsense. The US goes to extraordinary lengths to avoid civilian deaths. The photo you posted is of the "road of death" where US airpower destroyed the retreating Iraqi army. That was a perfectly legal and legitimate act of war. The Iraqis were the ones killing and raping civilians in Kuwait, as well as stealing everything not solidly set in concrete, not the US forces.
There No Such Thing As a "Non-Combatant" in a Combat Zone.

"Civilians" is a concept created by pacifist cowards and traitors. So it doesn't matter if there were "civilians" in that picture.

What matters is that Kuwait has been a part of Iraq (Mesopotamia) for 6,000 years and the Ukraine has been a part of Russia since 1654. Both Iraq and Russia could have been our allies against Iran if the Globalists hadn't wanted to colonize them.
 
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The USSR was NEVER a friend of the west, nor an actual ally. Stalin was only in the war because he had no choice and spent the war blackmailing FDR and Churchill for ever larger amounts of support. The USSR fought its own war and almost never cooperated with the WAllies, and then reluctantly while treating their personnel on Russian soil like prisoners and pariahs.
What if Operation Barbarossa had come to the US?
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Stalin fought nearly 200 German divisions.
The allies fought around a dozen.
Twenty million Soviet citizens died defending their homes against 3.8 million Axis military personnel (the largest invasion force in history) along a 1800 mile front.
The Russians won WWII, and Truman thanked them with a Cold War.
Ukraine is just the latest chapter in that capitali$t clu$ter-fuck.

Operation Barbarossa - Wikipedia
 
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so a country which was known as the most fertile in Europe and which Germany attacked for that has in reality sold that land that they fought to keep mainly to American's but also a German Company. huh uh, we get another idea of why the US may be wanting to stop Russia getting in.

This is just too sad...and it says Ukraine will get no money. Still not too sure how they managed that and make it just corporations selling to corporations but this is beyond awful.
And Away We Go

Outsourcing is also corporate treason, so what do you expect from Bizz Skule Bozos who are mentally incapable of making money except by beyond-awful cheating?
 

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