It's time to embrace Cuba

[DavidS]

We deal with communist China every day... they buy our bad debt. This is no longer a 1950s-1960s world where commies are the bad guys and capitalists are the good guys. If we establish a full trade agreement with Cuba and allow tourism to flourish into and out of Cuba, it would open up a new market for American businesses and help Cuba's economy surge like it hasn't done in decades. Times are getting tough in Mexico and we're very likely to have a socialist or a communist hard liner in Mexico within the next few years that will promise to clean up Mexico but it will strain relations with the US.

That being said, having a relationship with Cuba could soften that blow.

It's time to re-establish full diplomatic relations with Cuba.

 

[Agnapostate]

The prospects of a socialist "hard-liner" in Mexico are dubious inasmuch as there was already determination to disenfranchise the PRD and Lopez Obrador. The trade embargo was an injustice to begin with, since the Castro government only expropriated industries (the majority of them privately owned by American entities and essentially used to exploit the Cuban working class) after U.S. representatives refused to accept payment for them. In one sense, the embargo has been even more harmful than Operations Northwoods and Mongoose.

 

[LiveUninhibited]

I don't see why not. Sanctions don't seem to make countries' governments "behave" anyway. They seem to make the people suffer mostly.

 

[Article 15]

It BEEN time to embrace Cuba for a long time now.

 

[Gunny]

We deal with communist China every day... they buy our bad debt. This is no longer a 1950s-1960s world where commies are the bad guys and capitalists are the good guys. If we establish a full trade agreement with Cuba and allow tourism to flourish into and out of Cuba, it would open up a new market for American businesses and help Cuba's economy surge like it hasn't done in decades. Times are getting tough in Mexico and we're very likely to have a socialist or a communist hard liner in Mexico within the next few years that will promise to clean up Mexico but it will strain relations with the US.

That being said, having a relationship with Cuba could soften that blow.

It's time to re-establish full diplomatic relations with Cuba.

Fuck Cuba. Fuck China.

Questions?

 

[johnrocks]

Trade with all, entangle with none of them cagey SOB's though.

 

[Annie]

We deal with communist China every day... they buy our bad debt. This is no longer a 1950s-1960s world where commies are the bad guys and capitalists are the good guys. If we establish a full trade agreement with Cuba and allow tourism to flourish into and out of Cuba, it would open up a new market for American businesses and help Cuba's economy surge like it hasn't done in decades. Times are getting tough in Mexico and we're very likely to have a socialist or a communist hard liner in Mexico within the next few years that will promise to clean up Mexico but it will strain relations with the US.

That being said, having a relationship with Cuba could soften that blow.

It's time to re-establish full diplomatic relations with Cuba.

Fuck Cuba. Fuck China.

Questions?

Totally OT. Just looking at your badges, what happens after you get your last 'bronze', do you explode or get lifted to poster heaven or what?

 

[Gunny]

We deal with communist China every day... they buy our bad debt. This is no longer a 1950s-1960s world where commies are the bad guys and capitalists are the good guys. If we establish a full trade agreement with Cuba and allow tourism to flourish into and out of Cuba, it would open up a new market for American businesses and help Cuba's economy surge like it hasn't done in decades. Times are getting tough in Mexico and we're very likely to have a socialist or a communist hard liner in Mexico within the next few years that will promise to clean up Mexico but it will strain relations with the US.

That being said, having a relationship with Cuba could soften that blow.

It's time to re-establish full diplomatic relations with Cuba.

Fuck Cuba. Fuck China.

Questions?

Totally OT. Just looking at your badges, what happens after you get your last 'bronze', do you explode or get lifted to poster heaven or what?

I turn into my avatar and the End of Days begins.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's time to re-establish full diplomatic relations with Cuba.

Did you know that the 11th POTUS actually offered $1million to Spain and stated that he would make Cuba a state.

Just imagine.

 

[Agnapostate]

Yes, Cuba has long been a target for imperialistic colonization. In the minds of some, not much has changed.

 

[manu1959]

We deal with communist China every day... they buy our bad debt. This is no longer a 1950s-1960s world where commies are the bad guys and capitalists are the good guys. If we establish a full trade agreement with Cuba and allow tourism to flourish into and out of Cuba, it would open up a new market for American businesses and help Cuba's economy surge like it hasn't done in decades. Times are getting tough in Mexico and we're very likely to have a socialist or a communist hard liner in Mexico within the next few years that will promise to clean up Mexico but it will strain relations with the US.

That being said, having a relationship with Cuba could soften that blow.

It's time to re-establish full diplomatic relations with Cuba.

have you been to cuba......there is nothing there we would want.....and they don't have any money to buy anything......

 

[manu1959]

I don't see why not. Sanctions don't seem to make countries' governments "behave" anyway. They seem to make the people suffer mostly.

interesting statement.......if cuba behaved then there would not be sanctions.....seems it is cubas choice.....if they don't want our stuff so be it.......

why do you see it that the us should do what cuba wants.....

 

[Agnapostate]

"Behaved"?

Complied with the orders of the ruling administration, you mean.

 

[manu1959]

"Behaved"?

Complied with the orders of the ruling administration, you mean.

cuba made a choice......because of that choice america made a choice.....hopefully russia and venuzela can help them.....

 

[Agnapostate]

cuba made a choice......because of that choice america made a choice.....hopefully russia and venuzela can help them.....

Yeah, a choice not to allow foreign private ownership of the means of production to continue and so exploit significant components of the population. How horrible.

 

[Toro]

I agree. The embargo has been an abject failure. All it does is allow Castro to use it as a stick to beat the Americans. It empowers the regime.

The more trade and the greater the free flow of goods, the more likely the regime will fall. Plus, there are great investment opportunities in Cuba.

Besides, it's inevitable.

 

[manu1959]

I agree. The embargo has been an abject failure. All it does is allow Castro to use it as a stick to beat the Americans. It empowers the regime.

The more trade and the greater the free flow of goods, the more likely the regime will fall. Plus, there are great investment opportunities in Cuba.

Besides, it's inevitable.

ok i will bite.......what investment opportunities......

 

[Toro]

I agree. The embargo has been an abject failure. All it does is allow Castro to use it as a stick to beat the Americans. It empowers the regime.

The more trade and the greater the free flow of goods, the more likely the regime will fall. Plus, there are great investment opportunities in Cuba.

Besides, it's inevitable.

ok i will bite.......what investment opportunities......

Tourism, mining, healthcare, and now, apparently, energy.

Cuba has an educated population. That's one good thing about commie countries, they school their people. Plus, before Castro, Cubans were a trading, entrepreneurial people.

 

[johnrocks]

I agree. The embargo has been an abject failure. All it does is allow Castro to use it as a stick to beat the Americans. It empowers the regime.

The more trade and the greater the free flow of goods, the more likely the regime will fall. Plus, there are great investment opportunities in Cuba.

Besides, it's inevitable.

ok i will bite.......what investment opportunities......

Cigars,sugar, tourism Hotel developments along the coast, we could open a market for GM perhaps, our agriculture products as opposed to China's.

 

[DavidS]

I don't see why not. Sanctions don't seem to make countries' governments "behave" anyway. They seem to make the people suffer mostly.

interesting statement.......if cuba behaved then there would not be sanctions.....seems it is cubas choice.....if they don't want our stuff so be it.......

why do you see it that the us should do what cuba wants.....

What do you mean behaved? What exactly is Cuba doing wrong? Being communist isn't something we punish for. Take China for example.