"It's only because of the United States of America that the French are not speaking German right now."

[CowboyTed]

wrong we would have beaten them without the French they just sped up the progress

Most Millitary analysts say that defeating the British was probably wouldn't have happened without the French.

France in the American Revolution

France was America's first international ally, and their partnership during the Revolutionary War helped the United States to achieve its independence.

www.battlefields.org

Without the committed support of France, it is difficult to see how the revolutionary cause could have been sustained in the face of British military power.

https://historum.com/t/could-the-colonies-have-won-independence-without-the-french.65625/

The funny thing, is Canada could have land as far south as New York if France didn't help

 

[skews13]

Most Millitary analysts say that defeating the British was probably wouldn't have happened without the French.

France in the American Revolution

France was America's first international ally, and their partnership during the Revolutionary War helped the United States to achieve its independence.

www.battlefields.org

Without the committed support of France, it is difficult to see how the revolutionary cause could have been sustained in the face of British military power.

https://historum.com/t/could-the-colonies-have-won-independence-without-the-french.65625/

The funny thing, is Canada could have land as far south as New York if France didn't help

Yep. Cornwallis refused to recognize Washington at Yorktown. Rochambeau made him give his sword to Washington.

Before that, it was Ben Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson begging hat in hand while visiting France for money to wage the war effort. Patrick Henry, who was the largest slave holder in the colonies at the time, refused to send any slave patrols ( Virginia state militia ), because of worries of a slave revolt. Washington didn't have the professional army all of the history books in the early to mid 20th century that was total propaganda was taught in schools.

 

[martybegan]

It's only because of the French there is a United States right now.

And we paid them back, twice.

In an even worse case scenario after WWII the French would be speaking Russian without US intervention.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And we paid them back, twice.

In an even worse case scenario after WWII the French would be speaking Russian without US intervention.

we also paid after WW2 for Frances's efforts to maintain all their colonies.

 

[martybegan]

we also paid after WW2 for Frances's efforts to maintain all their colonies.

To be fair, the Marshall plan was in our own best interest, considering we didn't want the Iron Curtain to be along the Channel Coast.