"It's not theirs, Its mine"

[easyt65]

The ones not approved were going to be possible witness as to what had happened that day.

Can possible criminals be allowed to be on the Jury or committee against themselves? Not anywhere I know.

Obviously so. Two of the committee members voted against certifying elections in the past. According to Democrats that is treasonous and a threat to our Democracy.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You do know the supreme court will likely throw out the warrant as unconstitutional, right? General warrants are a big no no, try reading the 4th amendment.

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Why would this get to the Supreme Court? You are jumping way ahead on this story.

Is Trump suing, yet? Did he sue for the boxes taken in January? Will he?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Obviously so. Two of the committee members voted against certifying elections in the past. According to Democrats that is treasonous and a threat to our Democracy.

You mix one issue with others. Stay focused on the topic of the thread

 

[easyt65]

Do you Skye? Do you not read the news?

That's funny coming from Democrats who claim the FBI violating the Constitution and Patriot Act, defrauding the FISA Court, illegally spying on Americans and the President, etc... is fake news despite it all having been reported and documented in the news.

I guess snowflakes only pay attention to news they want to hear / see.

 

[Sixties Fan]

That's funny coming from Democrats who claim the FBI violating the Constitution and Patriot Act, defrauding the FISA Court, illegally spying on Americans and the President, etc... is fake news despite it all having been reported and documented in the news.

I guess snowflakes only pay attention to news they want to hear / see.

Your point of view has been debunked. You may repeat it until you get buried in your own snow.
Debunked means NOT true.

Keep shoveling the snow on others hoping they will eventually accept it and not throw it right back at you.

 

[skye]

That's funny coming from Democrats who claim the FBI violating the Constitution and Patriot Act, defrauding the FISA Court, illegally spying on Americans and the President, etc... is fake news despite it all having been reported and documented in the news.

I guess snowflakes only pay attention to news they want to hear / see.

Exactly, easy65!

Look, it all comes down to TDS on these people!

Sadly, there is no cure for that mental derangement!

 

[Sixties Fan]

Exactly, easy65!

Look, it all comes down to TDS on these people!

Sadly, there is no cure for that mental derangement!

Not accepting debunked myths is mental derangement.

Time to see your shrink, Skye.

 

[The Duke]

Do you Skye? Do you not read the news?
Do you not pay attention as to what was in the news about what was returned in those boxes?

This is a continuing story, so you will get your wish at some point as to all that was in all of those 27 boxes.

I have no wish to care. Using government agencies to go after a former president is like something from Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany. If it continues too far, Americans will end it.
Either with blood running everywhere or a Convention of The States to stop this silliness. Or maybe something else. Lord knows America would be better off without commie shitbags living here and trying to do it in. I know my state has already signed on.

 

[skye]

Not accepting debunked myths is mental derangement.

Time to see your shrink, Skye.

If you see your shrink first.

 

[Sixties Fan]

If you see your shrink first.

Have you actually posted anything of substance in the whole thread, or just little cute things like this, and in the above posts?

When you do learn anything about how the US government is run, and why some laws exist, then maybe we can have a real discussion.

 

[OKTexas]

Why would this get to the Supreme Court? You are jumping way ahead on this story.

Is Trump suing, yet? Did he sue for the boxes taken in January? Will he?

Not really, his attorneys can file for a probable cause hearing and any time in the process. And make the argument that the government violated Trumps 4th amendment rights. If the court agrees, nothing seized can be used as evidence in any procedure.

Fourth Amendment.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Do you understand what "particularly describing" means? A 4 year window for documents doesn't come close to meeting that definition. The warrant is invalid on its face.

This was insisted on by the founders, because the English Crown just loved the use of general warrants.

Another legal term you might want to familiarize yourself with, "fruit of the poisonous tree". LMAO

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[Roudy]

Spare us all the comparison with Clinton and anyone else.

He had in his possession documents he should not have and that is why he returned 15 boxes in January.
He wanted to keep the rest, regardless of two supbeanas to return the rest. His lawyer lied about there not being any more documents.


Stick to facts, it is always better that way.

He had in his possession documents that presidents can have and have had in the past, since they can declassify any document as they are the final authority on it, not an unelected bureaucrat like Garland who has a chip on his shoulder since he was blocked from the Supreme Court (Thank God for that).

You want preferential treatment for Hillary, Joe Biden, Hunter, the Pelosis and other Dems. even though it's clear they committed criminal offenses and they are ignored and pushed under the rug by our corrupt justice system?

 

[easyt65]

Not accepting debunked myths is mental derangement.

Once we see any debunked myths coming from the left we will assess...

...this - talk of debunked myths - coming from the same dupes who claim the FBI never defrauded the FISA Court, never illegally spied on Americans, and that Hillary never initiated the proven debunked Russian Collusion scandal is funny.

 

[Roudy]

This is not a matter of personal documents or items.

This is a matter of Classified and Top Secret documents.

Which a president can declassify and take with him. Trump‘s attorney already certified that all documents in Trump's possession were declassified Months ago. This was just an excuse and a last ditch attempt by Garland (since Jan 6 failed miserably) to send in his thugs to rummage and see what they can find. In the process Democrats have divided the country even more and turned it into a banana republic dictatorship.

 

[Sixties Fan]

He had in his possession documents that presidents can have and have had in the past, since they can declassify any document as they are the final authority on it, not an unelected bureaucrat like Garland who has a chip on his shoulder since he was blocked from the Supreme Court (Thank God for that).

You want preferential treatment for Hillary, Joe Biden, Hunter, the Pelosis and other Dems. even though it's clear they committed criminal offenses and they are ignored and pushed under the rug by our corrupt justice system?

How long has it been since he is not the President, and what kind of documents were in his possession?

What other former Presidents has any kind of Classified or Top Secret documents in their possession, once no longer President?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Which a president can declassify and take with him. Trumps attorney already certified the all documents in Trump's possession were declassified.

If it was declassified, there would be a record of it and it does not exist. It is necessary so that NARA can have a record of it.

Trump attorney signed a letter in June attesting that there were no more classified documents.

Search warrant, after 2 subpoenas to return documents, showed that it was not true.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Not really, his attorneys can file for a probable cause hearing and any time in the process. And make the argument that the government violated Trumps 4th amendment rights. If the court agrees, nothing seized can be used as evidence in any procedure.

Fourth Amendment.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Do you understand what "particularly describing" means? A 4 year window for documents doesn't come close to meeting that definition. The warrant is invalid on its face.

This was insisted on by the founders, because the English Crown just loved the use of general warrants.

Another legal term you might want to familiarize yourself with, "fruit of the poisonous tree". LMAO

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Those were all documents which belong to the government and not Trump, or he would not have given 15 boxes back to begin with. They belong in the hands of NARA, not of former government officials.

 

[OKTexas]

Not accepting debunked myths is mental derangement.

Time to see your shrink, Skye.

Debunked? Hardly.

FISA court slams FBI conduct in Carter Page surveillance warrant applications - CNN Politics

The typically ultra-close-lipped Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court slammed the FBI for mistakes it made in the Carter Page surveillance warrants and ordered the agency to detail how it will improve its warrant applications in light of the errors, uncovered recently by the Justice...

www.cnn.com

FISA Court Judge Excoriates FBI For Blatant Abuses In Carter Page File

The FBI didn't just steamroll over the rights of an American citizen, they treated a sitting judge like a chump. Sounds like that judge is royally PO'D.

clashdaily.com

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[easyt65]

Those were all documents which belong to the government and not Trump, or he would not have given 15 boxes back to begin with. They belong in the hands of NARA, not of former government officials.

Poor Hillary - Comey said she was too stupid to understand she was breaking the law.

(She understood enough, though, to Bleach Bit-wipe her hard drive and smash multiple classified devices with hammers. )

 

[Sixties Fan]

Debunked? Hardly.

FISA court slams FBI conduct in Carter Page surveillance warrant applications - CNN Politics

The typically ultra-close-lipped Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court slammed the FBI for mistakes it made in the Carter Page surveillance warrants and ordered the agency to detail how it will improve its warrant applications in light of the errors, uncovered recently by the Justice...

www.cnn.com

FISA Court Judge Excoriates FBI For Blatant Abuses In Carter Page File

The FBI didn't just steamroll over the rights of an American citizen, they treated a sitting judge like a chump. Sounds like that judge is royally PO'D.

clashdaily.com

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When any mistakes are shown about the DOJ search warrant do let me know .