It simply amazes me how much those who oppose Trump...

[Mr. Friscus]

We were respected and our global leadership was sought.
The world no longer wants or respects our leadership

By what metric are you using to say this?

The world still takes our money, charity, and protection that’s for sure. If we pulled our Navy, worldwide commerce would freeze.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

This is just another low IQ reiteration of the even more low IQ TDS talking point.

Rabid crybaby cultists think people don't like what Trump does and says, because they don't like Trump.

Normal adults understand it's the other way around.

Um, okay.

 

[berg80]

Trump administration denies disaster declarations for wildfires, flooding in Colorado, governor's office says​

DENVER — Colorado leaders are calling on President Donald Trump to reconsider the denial of disaster declaration requests the state made to help with recovery from severe flooding and wildfires this past year.
According to a news release from Democratic Gov. Jared Polis's office, the denials were issued late Saturday night. Disaster declarations would unlock funds from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to assist with the recovery from the natural disasters.

Trump administration denies disaster declarations for wildfires, flooding in Colorado

Democratic Gov. Jared Polis and Sens. John Hickenlooper and Michael Bennet are calling on Trump to reconsider.

www.9news.com

Just as shutting down NCAR in Boulder over Gov. Polis refusing to pardon trump acolyte Tina Peters this is also an act of retribution.

In September, the governor requested FEMA support for recovery efforts after the Elk and Lee fires in Rio Blanco County. He filed a request in November asking for FEMA support following flooding in Archuleta, La Plata and Mineral counties. The governor's office said Sunday that the requests "exceeded FEMA indicators required to approve a major presidential disaster."
It also says the state has invested more than $57.5 million responding to these and other disasters since July 2024.
On Sunday, Polis and U.S. Sens. John Hickenlooper and Michael Bennet called on the Republican president to reconsider the denials.
"The State does not have the capacity to continue to provide assistance to local communities to support the recovery efforts without federal assistance," the release says. "The losses from both of these disasters exceeded FEMA’s threshold to approve a federal disaster declaration."

 

[leftwinger]

Well, we all have to deal with it. But I won't contribute to it.

I'm saying we've got to stop voting for these bozos. The fear-mongering scares everyone into falling for lesser-of-two-evils. If we can't figure out how to get past that, I don't see us recovering.

Telling ourselves we're voting against anyone, regardless of the reason, is delusional. With our current system, we literally can't do it. All that's recorded with one's vote is support for the candidate in question. No one will know, nor care, who we think we're voting "against".

Are we though? I don't see it. Trump has zero "political philosophy". The dems have some, but none they'll admit to (socialism).

Again, when they're both bad - I think it's foolish to debate which is worse. It's foolish to vote for either.

I get it. And while I think Trump's personality is repugnant, it's not that alone that disqualifies him. But his personality does feed into his utter lack of leadership skills and that makes him a hard "no" in my book.

And it goes further than that. It's bad enough that he won't, or can't, make a compelling argument for his policies. It's that he goes out of the way to troll people who disagree. People who might, given how bad the Democrats are, be willing to give conservative ideas a chance. But they look at Trump and say, quite reasonably - "**** no".

You didn't answer my question, but I assume there is some point where you wouldn't vote for either candidate, and you just don't think Trump has yet crossed that threshold. I'm there already.

Phony Middlers with unhealthy levels of TDS are actually supprot to continue Obiden regime. Demanding us to change? Us to sit out?

You're welcome. We saved your lame rear ends from razor wire camp (this time) you dumb OXYEN.

 

[dblack]

Trump administration denies disaster declarations for wildfires, flooding in Colorado, governor's office says​

DENVER — Colorado leaders are calling on President Donald Trump to reconsider the denial of disaster declaration requests the state made to help with recovery from severe flooding and wildfires this past year.
According to a news release from Democratic Gov. Jared Polis's office, the denials were issued late Saturday night. Disaster declarations would unlock funds from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to assist with the recovery from the natural disasters.

Trump administration denies disaster declarations for wildfires, flooding in Colorado

Democratic Gov. Jared Polis and Sens. John Hickenlooper and Michael Bennet are calling on Trump to reconsider.

www.9news.com

Just as shutting down NCAR in Boulder over Gov. Polis refusing to pardon trump acolyte Tina Peters this is also an act of retribution.

Trump swore an oath, to persecute his political opposition and harass his detractors in any way feasible. It's his sacred duty as the President.

 

[leftwinger]

Cherry picking crap like this provides no valuable observation whatsoever. Dems need to stop jerking off to the gaffes and gotchas and work on nominating a decent candidate.

Social Responsibility demands YOU pick the best alternative to protect American Children right now. Not 25 yrs out when you are gone and they have a "new voting".

 

[dblack]

Social Responsibility demands YOU pick the best alternative to protect American Children right now. Not 25 yrs out when your gone and they have "new voting".

That tired saw? That's what got is in this mess. It won't get us out. Your two parties suck donkey dick.

 

[task0778]

I'm saying we've got to stop voting for these bozos. The fear-mongering scares everyone into falling for lesser-of-two-evils. If we can't figure out how to get past that, I don't see us recovering.

If you ain't voting at all or you're voting for a 3rd person then you basically throwing away your vote. The plain truth is that either the Repub or Dem nominee will be elected and there's no getting around that. Sometimes there's a candidate you like but these days there isn't IMHO. Sometimes it's a pragmatic choice that boils down to who's gonna **** up the country the most. And guess what, it might not be the biggest asshole. You tell me, what's the alternative to voting for the lesser of 2 evils, I ain't seeing that. Yeah, it'd be great if we had a positive choice, maybe you think we did. I don't.

And BTW there's a whole lot of fear-mongering going on from the democrats, maybe moreso than from Trump. It's a matter of opinion.

 

[Mashmont]

.. focus so much on how "nice" or warm and fuzzy he is (or isn't).

I care about policy. The left freaks out over him calling people names, or not being nice. Sure, I'd like a bit more candor, but all-in-all it means minimal in importance.

Trump will be known primarily in his second term for his astronomical success of stopping the invasion of illegal immigrants at the southern border. All the problems this issue was causing are at least being tamed, and hopefully we can push back on the advances of letting in un-vetted, dangerous third world morality to flood into our country.

The left focuses on personality because they can't challenge Trump on policy.

 

[rightwinger]

The left focuses on personality because they can't challenge Trump on policy.

They can’t challenge Trump on policy till they win in 2026

 

[Mashmont]

They can’t challenge Trump on policy till they win in 2026

What have they done that will merit them winning? Nothing. Democrats have only failure to offer.

 

[Correll]

They can’t challenge Trump on policy till they win in 2026

If they had a valid complaint or point about policy they could make that argument.

Instead they/you just shit talk.


Becasue they/you have lost all the policy debates.

And you know it.

 

[schmidlap]

.. focus so much on how "nice" or warm and fuzzy he is (or isn't).

I care about policy. The left freaks out over him calling people names, or not being nice. Sure, I'd like a bit more candor, but all-in-all it means minimal in importance.

Trump will be known primarily in his second term for his astronomical success of stopping the invasion of illegal immigrants at the southern border. All the problems this issue was causing are at least being tamed, and hopefully we can push back on the advances of letting in un-vetted, dangerous third world morality to flood into our country.

The blowhard's policies are destroying America.

His being a crude, obnoxious, degenerate sexual abuser and convicted felon is just a a bonus.

 

[dblack]

If you ain't voting at all or you're voting for a 3rd person then you basically throwing away your vote.

If you vote for a bad candidate on purpose, you're doing far worse than throwing your vote away. You're sabotaging your country in the name of scoring a few points in the "culture war".

You tell me, what's the alternative to voting for the lesser of 2 evils, I ain't seeing that.

If you can't see an alternative, then don't vote. That's better than voting for a bad candidate deliberately. Personally, I see plenty of alternatives, plenty of other candidates to support. But if you don't, don't vote for a bad candidate just for "something to do".

This culture war horseshit has convinced everyone that they have to support their "side" - no matter how shitty their candidates are - or the other will get a leg up. So, we elect shitty leaders. And both "sides" lose. We all lose

And BTW there's a whole lot of fear-mongering going on from the democrats, maybe moreso than from Trump.

Yes. I'm wouldn't suggest voting for a Democrat either. But "they do it too" is the weakest of excuses.

Out of curiosity, what's your take on ranked choice voting, or other reforms that neuter the lesser-of-two-evils argument altogether?

 

[berg80]

Trump swore an oath, to persecute his political opposition and harass his detractors in any way feasible. It's his sacred duty as the President.

He's certainly acting that way.

 

[dblack]

He's certainly acting that way.

I think it's all people want out of their politicians these days. Petty revenge and childish trolling.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The blowhard's policies are destroying America.

How

His being a crude, obnoxious, degenerate sexual abuser and convicted felon is just a a bonus.

Proving my point

 

[task0778]

If you vote for a bad candidate on purpose, you're doing far worse than throwing your vote away. You're sabotaging your country in the name of scoring a few points in the "culture war".

**** the culture war, I don't give a crap about that. I just don't see your logic, if by not voting you allow the worst of the 2 primary candidates to win then IMHO you are sabotaging worse than not voting or voting for somebody that has no shot of winning. If they are both bad candidates then I truly believe I am forced to determine who we would we better off with in 4 years; or worse off so I vote for the other guy.

Partly it's party politics, I really do not want a far Left democrat in the WH if he/she also has a democrat Congress. I can see them abolishing the filibuster and to me that is a big deal. Although some repubs want that, the GOP is less likely to do that than the democrats are and let's not forget the democrats tried to do that once already.

Out of curiosity, what's your take on ranked choice voting, or other reforms that neuter the lesser-of-two-evils argument altogether?

Not a bad idea, but then we're still left with the problem that somebody bad is going to win. It'd be great if one of the candidates was superior to the other, but I didn't see that in 2016, 2020, or 2024. Hindsight is always 20-20, so in my estimation the dynamic of the lesser of 2 evils isn't changed at all. Clearly I must be missing your point; for the foreseeable future either a democrat or a republican will be the next president and voting for a 3rd person will not change that fact. That will be the case no matter how voting is changed.

 

[Rawley]

The blowhard's policies are destroying America.

His being a crude, obnoxious, degenerate sexual abuser and convicted felon is just a a bonus.

It's Mr. President to you.

 

[dblack]

**** the culture war, I don't give a crap about that. I just don't see your logic, if by not voting you allow the worst of the 2 primary candidates to win then IMHO you are sabotaging worse than not voting or voting for somebody that has no shot of winning.

Only in the short term, and only in the narrowest sense. But you're perpetuating the downward spiral. The bottom line is, the parties won't bother to nominate good candidates if we'll vote for the bad ones anyway.

If they are both bad candidates then I truly believe I am forced to determine who we would we better off with in 4 years; or worse off so I vote for the other guy.

As I asked earlier - is there a point where you'd bail on this "logic"? Would you always promote this kind of voting, no matter how bad the two candidates are?

Partly it's party politics ...

Yep. That's the worst problem we have. It should be nation over party, but we do it the other way around.

Not a bad idea, but then we're still left with the problem that somebody bad is going to win.

Maybe. But we wouldn't be doing the lesser of two evils thing. With ranked choice voting, you can vote against the candidate scares you - by ranking every other candidate above them. But you can still vote for your actual favorite. You don't have to pretend to support Trump to block the Dem.

That will be the case no matter how voting is changed.

It will completely do away with the lesser-of-two-evils excuse, which is the weak link of our current system. That might not change the political landscape overnight, but it will give us a real read on voter sentiment. People won't have to afraid to show support for third parties. And as that support grows, the third parties will either gain momentum as legitimate contenders or, more likely, the major parties will co-op their themes. Either way, real voter preferences will be registered and parties wanting those votes will have incentive to appeal to those voters.

As it is, people hold their nose and say "give me more of the same". So we get more of the same. Except that "the same" is a continued downward trajectory.