It is time to end our relationship with Israel

[Zebra]

No, I got it. You’re saying that some Jews observe the religion, and others are “ethnically” Jewish.

But the antisemite upthread is claiming that Jews who convert to Christianity, officially renouncing their Judaism, are still Jews.

He reminds me of those Jews for Jesus types. They were mostly Christians, masquerading as Jews, who tried to fool Jews they could believe in Jesus and still be Jews. It was a marketing ploy to gain more converts. But it failed miserably.

ethnically they are

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Are the very words of Lindsay Graham "fake news?" He literally said that they "ran out of bombs." Is he lying about that?

Estimates vary as to how many unarmed civilians died. From what I can gather, there were around 70,000 murdered, in total, and about 20,000 of them were kids. But lets just say lots and lot and lots and lots of unarmed people who had no "dog in the fight" were massacred.

You know you can "run out of bombs" without dropping as many as were dropped in WWII, right?

DURR.

How many bombs did Israel drop?

 

[Roudy]

God, Himself, destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for embracing homosexuality. Are you aware that Tel Aviv is the homosexual capitol of the world? There's a HUGE LGBTQ population there. Just saying.

But God destroyed those people for a righteous reason. Israel and Trump are destroying Gaza because they want to turn the land into a new Riviera. Trumpberg sees dollar signs and a large stretch of luxury hotels and golf courses.

In any event, Christians should not yoke themselves with the anti-Christ. Israel is known for their adherence to Judaism and Atheism. Both "isms" deny Jesus Christ. So posting a bunch of Scripture won't erase the fact that America has joined forces with a satanic, anti-Christ group.

Whether Oct 7th actually happened or not -- it did not justify the mass murder of nearly 70,000 unarmed civilians (20,000 of which were kids). Nothing could justify that.

Does that make me "pro-Muslim?" Of course not. I reject that religious ideology (even though it pays more homage to Christ than Judaism does). No ... it means that I oppose mass murder.

Sodom is just one example of G-d destroying those who are evil and proud of it. Israel destroyed Gaza because Israel and Hamas were supposedly under a ”truce” when subhuman Palestinian animals conducted the worst barbaric medieval massacre on Jews since the holocaust. These are the same people that celebrated stabbing sleeping babies sleeping in their cribs or dismembering kids in front of their parents and vice versa. The celebrations and protests were happening for a month and half until Israel actually started its response. If you are stupid enough to side with pure evil, that is your choice. Here is what the U.S. and Allies did to German Nazi city of Dresden.

 

[Shusha]

...has called someone an "antisemite" because they happen to oppose the terrorist state of Israel and genocide, in general.

But that is not what you said. What you actually said was that you oppose the state of Israel (and you mean Jews) because it "embraces homosexuality" and is "satanic" and "anti-C". (post #922)

If you actually opposed violence and murder, you would embrace those working to transform Gaza into a successful, prosperous, and safe State. You would want that for the people of Gaza, instead of the their terrorist government stealing billions of dollars of aid from them and using it to build tunnels, stockpile weapons, and continue to commit war crimes, crimes against humanity, and attempt genocide on the sovereign State of Israel and her people.

 

[Zebra]

Dresden once was most beautiful ....

 

[Zebra]

I am serious. They're killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people for no reason other then blind religious hatred. They're bombing schools, killing tens of thousands of children and carrying out ethnic cleansing. We can't support this shit and be a nation that stands for anything besides evil. Pure ******* evil. The entire leadership of israel needs to be removed and the entire regime imprisoned in the same way the nazi were.

It isn't ok.

there are not many innocents in Gaza

 

[SaxonJackson]

But that is not what you said. What you actually said was that you oppose the state of Israel (and you mean Jews) because it "embraces homosexuality" and is "satanic" and "anti-C". (post #922)

If you actually opposed violence and murder, you would embrace those working to transform Gaza into a successful, prosperous, and safe State. You would want that for the people of Gaza, instead of the their terrorist government stealing billions of dollars of aid from them and using it to build tunnels, stockpile weapons, and continue to commit war crimes, crimes against humanity, and attempt genocide on the sovereign State of Israel and her people.

"The state of Israel" is the result of the Zionist mindset. You don't have one without the other.

Gaza was home to 70,000 unarmed, peaceful people who were massacred? Why? So that Trump and Israel could convert their home to a new Riviera.

 

[SaxonJackson]

You know you can "run out of bombs" without dropping as many as were dropped in WWII, right?

DURR.

How many bombs did Israel drop?

Enough to destroy most of the Gaza strip and enough to massacre around 70,000 unarmed people.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Sodom is just one example of G-d destroying those who are evil and proud of it. Israel destroyed Gaza because Israel and Hamas were supposedly under a ”truce” when subhuman Palestinian animals conducted the worst barbaric medieval massacre on Jews since the holocaust. These are the same people that celebrated stabbing sleeping babies sleeping in their cribs or dismembering kids in front of their parents and vice versa. The celebrations and protests were happening for a month and half until Israel actually started its response. If you are stupid enough to side with pure evil, that is your choice. Here is what the U.S. and Allies did to German Nazi city of Dresden.

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There should never have been a truce since Israelis had no business kicking the Palestinians out of their homeland in the first place.

What do you think about Tel Aviv being the number one LGBTQ community in the world? Do you think God is happy about that?

 

[SaxonJackson]

She ain't the only one calling you a Jew hater. And I AM a Born Again Evangelical Christian.

Yeah. The Evangelical "Scofield Christians" will always side with anti-Christ before siding with lovers of Jesus Christ. That's nothing new.

 

[Shusha]

"The state of Israel" is the result of the Zionist mindset. You don't have one without the other.

The State of Israel is the result of the Jewish people seeking self-determination in their own ancestral homeland. It was the political norm of the day as old Empires collapsed and were replaced by individual nation-states formed around the ideological concept of self-determination for a defined group of people, often, but not always, based on their collective identity as a distinct ethnic or cultural group. The "Zionist" mindset was no different than the mindsets of dozens of other states which arose in that time period and later. It is no different than the mindset of today's "Palestinians". Nor of today's Catalans, Quebecois, Kurds, Kashmeri, indigenous peoples of the Americas, and others. The very fact that you insist that the Jews are exceptional points to your own double standards, which you've already clearly stated as viewing Jews as satanic and thus worthy of destruction.

Gaza was home to 70,000 unarmed, peaceful people who were massacred?

Gaza was home to a terrorist government who invested (stole) billions of dollars in order to build a highly sophisticated tunnel network; import weapons; collect military intelligence; hold captives and hostages; and from which to conduct a military and civilian invasion of a sovereign State, which they promise to repeat, complete with war crimes, crimes against humanity, and elements of genocide.

Unarmed? Peaceful? Surely you are not that ignorant.

 

[Roudy]

There should never have been a truce since Israelis had no business kicking the Palestinians out of their homeland in the first place.

What do you think about Tel Aviv being the number one LGBTQ community in the world? Do you think God is happy about that?

It wasn’t the “Palestinian” homeland nor was there a Palestinian people or nation, you ignorant dipshit. The land was under Ottoman rule for 600 years, and after World War One, after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire that had allied itself with the Germans, the whole region fell under the control of the British and French, hence the Palestine and French mandates.

“Palestine” is a European word and the Palestinians pre 1950’s were. ONLY THE JEWS, not the Arabs, that were living in that land. In fact the Ottomans, who were Muslims themselves, never recognized such a thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people. They did however invite the Jews that were suffering the inquisitions about 600 years ago to come back and settle in their religious and ancestral holy land. So Jewish presence throughout the millennia is a historical fact.

You really should brush up on your world history and not this sewage you grab from neo-Nazi or IslamoNazi websites…

Palestine is Jordan, that’s why over 80 % of Jirdanians are Palestinian, including its current “Queen”.

 

[SaxonJackson]

The State of Israel is the result of the Jewish people seeking self-determination in their own ancestral homeland. It was the political norm of the day as old Empires collapsed and were replaced by individual nation-states formed around the ideological concept of self-determination for a defined group of people, often, but not always, based on their collective identity as a distinct ethnic or cultural group. The "Zionist" mindset was no different than the mindsets of dozens of other states which arose in that time period and later. It is no different than the mindset of today's "Palestinians". Nor of today's Catalans, Quebecois, Kurds, Kashmeri, indigenous peoples of the Americas, and others. The very fact that you insist that the Jews are exceptional points to your own double standards, which you've already clearly stated as viewing Jews as satanic and thus worthy of destruction.

Gaza was home to a terrorist government who invested (stole) billions of dollars in order to build a highly sophisticated tunnel network; import weapons; collect military intelligence; hold captives and hostages; and from which to conduct a military and civilian invasion of a sovereign State, which they promise to repeat, complete with war crimes, crimes against humanity, and elements of genocide.

Unarmed? Peaceful? Surely you are not that ignorant.

In 1948, the Palestinians were minding their own business living life like the rest of the world. Then, all of a sudden and out of the blue, some European, Ashkenazi Jews decided that they wanted that land. They attacked without provocation and exiled 700,000 Palestinians to the deserts of the Gaza strip.

I think if someone did that to me or my family, I might hold a grudge. But the Zionists didn't stop there. They picked fights with other Arabic nations of the region and have been causing chaos and tension ever since.

Remember the USS Liberty. You know ... the unarmed American ship the Israelis attempted to sink.

 

[Roudy]

Yeah. The Evangelical "Scofield Christians" will always side with anti-Christ before siding with lovers of Jesus Christ. That's nothing new.

Your Christ was born and raised as a Jew, moron. There was no Christianity until 200 to 300 years after Jesus’ crucifixion. Jesus was a circumcised religious Jew that practiced Judaism. Funny, you worship a Jew as Son of God, yet hate his people and his faith.

 

[Roudy]

In 1948, the Palestinians were minding their own business living life like the rest of the world. Then, all of a sudden and out of the blue, some European, Ashkenazi Jews decided that they wanted that land. They attacked without provocation and exiled 700,000 Palestinians to the deserts of the Gaza strip.

I think if someone did that to me or my family, I might hold a grudge. But the Zionists didn't stop there. They picked fights with other Arabic nations of the region and have been causing chaos and tension ever since.

Remember the USS Liberty. You know ... the unarmed American ship the Israelis attempted to sink.

Ha ha ha. What a retard. You know they have nothing when they resort to the USS Liberty bullshit. “Palestine” is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Enough to destroy most of the Gaza strip and enough to massacre around 70,000 unarmed people.

How many?

Use your toes if you must.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There should never have been a truce since Israelis had no business kicking the Palestinians out of their homeland in the first place.

What do you think about Tel Aviv being the number one LGBTQ community in the world? Do you think God is happy about that?

The Arab homeland is Arabia, not Israel.

 

[Roudy]

"The state of Israel" is the result of the Zionist mindset. You don't have one without the other.

Gaza was home to 70,000 unarmed, peaceful people who were massacred? Why? So that Trump and Israel could convert their home to a new Riviera.

You don’t even know what Zionist means, you ignorant moron. Zion is mentioned in both the old and New Testaments, it is just another word for Jerusalem, and the holy land of the Jews and in the New Testament, Christians. That is why the Crusaders first mission was to free up the Christian holy land, aka Zion aka Jerusalem the birthplace of “Christ”, from the occupying and invading Muslims.

“The Crusaders fought to "save" Jerusalem by conquering it during the First Crusade in 1099, resulting in a massacre of its inhabitants. They launched multiple subsequent military campaigns to recapture the city after losing it, most notably to Saladin in 1187 following the Battle of Hattin. However, their attempts to permanently hold Jerusalem were ultimately unsuccessful.

• Initial Conquest (1099): After a siege, the First Crusade's armies captured Jerusalem, leading to a brutal massacre of the city's Muslim and Jewish residents.
• Loss to Saladin (1187): The Crusader army was devastated at the Battle of Hattin, which enabled Saladin to recapture Jerusalem. The subsequent surrender was negotiated and relatively peaceful for the surviving inhabitants, unlike the 1099 conquest.
• Third Crusade (1189–1192): This was a response to the loss of Jerusalem and aimed to retake it. It failed to recapture the city but secured a narrow coastal strip and allowed for safe passage for Christian pilgrims under a truce.
• Sixth Crusade (1228–1229): Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II negotiated a treaty with the Sultan al-Kamil that temporarily returned Jerusalem to Christian control, though a large part of Palestine remained under Muslim rule.
  • Final Loss (1291): The loss of Acre to the Mamluks marked the end of the Crusader presence in the Levant, and Jerusalem was permanently lost to the Crusaders.”

 

[Shusha]

In 1948, the Palestinians were minding their own business living life like the rest of the world. Then, all of a sudden and out of the blue, some European, Ashkenazi Jews decided that they wanted that land. They attacked without provocation and exiled 700,000 Palestinians to the deserts of the Gaza strip.

Um. Dude. Is your understanding of the world really that selective and blind? Again, this can't be ignorance.

Let's start here: the Ottoman Empire had just come out of WWI to a loss, including a loss of territory. Everyone was scrambling around re-drawing borders and the idea of self-determination became something to put into practice. The Jewish people were just one of many peoples who were seeking that self-determination.

The Jewish people attacked no one, let alone "without provocation". It was the Arab armies who attacked the nascent State of Israel.

 

[teddyearp]

Israel and Trump are destroying Gaza because they want to turn the land into a new Riviera. Trumpberg sees dollar signs and a large stretch of luxury hotels and golf courses.

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Whether Oct 7th actually happened or not -- it did not justify the mass murder of nearly 70,000 unarmed civilians (20,000 of which were kids). Nothing could justify that.

Maybe Trump sees what Hamas could have done with Gaza the last twenty years with the billions and billions and billions of dollars of aid that has flowed their way over their twenty years of self rule in the strip.

"Whether Oct 7 happened or not. . ." Wow, just wow.