It Doesn't Make Any Sense To Attack The US About Climate Change When China Is Killing The Planet

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It makes no sense to decimate the energy industry in the United States when China is the primary culprit.

30 years ago most of China's working population got around on foot or on a bicycle. Today they are the fastest growing economy on the planet, thanks to the world's online shopping habits. Consequently they also are the world's leading emitter of greenhouse gases.

While Democrats are busy gutting our ability to mine our natural resources, China is building new coal fired energy plants, all the while trying to suck up as much of the world's fossil-fuels as they can to keep their expanding economy from collapsing. They're bribing our politicians. Politicians that would never give US energy producers any slack....but allow China to do pretty much whatever they want. The Western world has agreed to exempt countries like the PRC and India, two of the worst polluters on planet.

China is using so much coal that their air quality is similar to, or worse than, the air quality in Europe during the height of the industrial revolution.

An estimated 1.24 million people died from exposure to air pollution in the PRC in 2017, according to a recent study in the medical journal The Lancet. Since 2000, the number of people who have died from air pollution in the PRC tops 30 million, according to New Scientist magazine.
“Too much of the Chinese Communist Party’s economy is built on willful disregard for air, land, and water quality,” Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo said in August. “The Chinese people — and the world — deserve better.”
The PRC has been the world’s largest annual emitter of greenhouse gases since 2006, and its emissions are increasing. Energy-related emissions of carbon dioxide in the PRC have increased more than 80 percent between 2005 and 2019, while U.S. energy-related emissions dropped by more than 15 percent during the same period, according to the International Energy Agency.

China is killing it's citizens and the planet at an alarming rate.....but if you ask a liberal/progressive about this....they don't know what you're talking about. And they are planning on increasing their emissions. They aren't cutting....they've just agreed to cap it at a set level....which, thanks to the wokes in the US and Europe, hasn't been reached yet. China isn't looking seriously for alternatives when they can get away with using a cheap source they're using today (Coal). They also aren't attempting to develop clean coal technology because they know that it would make energy more expensive to produce.

The only way the PRC can clear the smog is by shutting everything down for weeks, other than a few energy plants. They did this in the last Olympics in Beijing. Beijing was like a ghost town during the 2008 Summer Olympics.
A prime example of what happens when China shuts everything down and then restarts it after a military parade they held to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the defeat of Japan during WW II.

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"Beijing CNN —​
Well, that was quick.​
Less than 24 hours after the end of China’s massive military parade, Beijing is back to its usual smoggy self.​
Residents woke up Friday morning to find the crystal blue skies that graced the city nearly two weeks suddenly gone – in their place, the familiar sight and smell of dour gray pollution clouds.​
Starting late August, Beijing enjoyed a rare string of continuously clear days as authorities took drastic action to ensure an azure backdrop for the largest parade it’s ever held – a showcase marking the 70th anniversary of Japan’s defeat in World War II.​
Hundreds of factories were shut during this time, while half of Beijing’s five million registered cars were banned from the streets.​

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It worked. On the morning of the parade, the air quality index (AQI) – an international standard for measuring the severity of air pollution – dipped to a pristine 17 out of 500, signifying very healthy air.​
Excited Beijingers coined the unusually blue skies “parade blue.”​
But now the cars are back and the city is back to “Beijing gray.”​
Friday’s AQI shot up past 160 in parts of the city, rated “unhealthy”."​


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This makes sense if you are really concerned with climate control.

However, every policy the Left favors triangulates back to Marxism, which is the ultimate goal as China is already Marxist, so they can do virutally no wrong.

For example, BLM says they are a Marxist organization as they virtue signal concern for black people in the US, but turn a blind eye when a black man who is a conservative runs for governor as he is attacked by a white woman dressed in an ape costume as she throws rotten eggs at him

Then the racist media slanders him as being the black face of white supremacy.

I suppose you could argue that Larry Elder is viewed as selling out to conservatives whom you view as racist, but you see the media also ignore the black plight of black on black crime in the major cities as thousands die around the country every day with black on black violence and virtually not a peep from the media or BLM.

Black conservatives are all treated far worse than white conservatives. So are they worse and does the democrat party really wish to keep the GOP all white?
 
This makes sense if you are really concerned with climate control.

However, every policy the Left favors triangulates back to Marxism, which is the ultimate goal as China is already Marxist, so they can do virutally no wrong.

For example, BLM says they are a Marxist organization as they virtue signal concern for black people in the US, but turn a blind eye when a black man who is a conservative runs for governor as he is attacked by a white woman dressed in an ape costume as she throws rotten eggs at him

Then the racist media slanders him as being the black face of white supremacy.

I suppose you could argue that Larry Elder is viewed as selling out to conservatives whom you view as racist, but you see the media also ignore the black plight of black on black crime in the major cities as thousands die around the country every day with black on black violence and virtually not a peep from the media or BLM.

Black conservatives are all treated far worse than white conservatives. So are they worse and does the democrat party really wish to keep the GOP all white?

Cleaning up after ourselves is Marxist?
 
Depends on whether or not it's the right thing to do.
So your only defense is.....as long as America produces any pollution at all....China is to be ignored.....even though countries like China are the reason the Climate might change in the first place.

The truth is....China pays the left to attack our own country while ignoring China's conduct. The excuse that they (China) supplied the left is we (gullible Americans) must be leaders......that lead us over a cliff of destruction.
 
So your only defense is.....as long as America produces any pollution at all....China is to be ignored.....even though countries like China are the reason the Climate might change in the first place.

The truth is....China pays the left to attack our own country while ignoring China's conduct. The excuse that they (China) supplied the left is we (gullible Americans) must be leaders......that lead us over a cliff of destruction.

I was clear with that I said. Repeating it does not change anything.

No I do not believe we should place no restrictions on our emissions because China does not.
 
A "world power" should lead, not follow.


A wonderful thought, and true... to a point.

To what extent should a "world power" lead? Should they "lead" to point that its people suffer? Should they "lead" to point that its economy suffers? Should they "lead" to point that they are no longer a "world power?" If they are leading by example, but none of the biggest contributors follow, what's the point? So that in the end we can say we were better than you? Unless and until China, Russia, and even India, get on board, nothing anyone else does is going to make a difference... except perhaps to the detriment of their people, their economy, and perhaps their ability to be a "world power."

Yeah, maybe we should make some changes... even if most of the climate changes are cyclical (and there is an argument to be made on that front), we would be foolish to believe that what humans do has zero impact... but let's not lose ourselves to a new religion at the same time.

By the way, isn't China a "world power?" Russia?
 
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It makes no sense to decimate the energy industry in the United States when China is the primary culprit.

30 years ago most of China's working population got around on foot or on a bicycle. Today they are the fastest growing economy on the planet, thanks to the world's online shopping habits. Consequently they also are the world's leading emitter of greenhouse gases.

While Democrats are busy gutting our ability to mine our natural resources, China is building new coal fired energy plants, all the while trying to suck up as much of the world's fossil-fuels as they can to keep their expanding economy from collapsing. They're bribing our politicians. Politicians that would never give US energy producers any slack....but allow China to do pretty much whatever they want. The Western world has agreed to exempt countries like the PRC and India, two of the worst polluters on planet.

China is using so much coal that their air quality is similar to, or worse than, the air quality in Europe during the height of the industrial revolution.

An estimated 1.24 million people died from exposure to air pollution in the PRC in 2017, according to a recent study in the medical journal The Lancet. Since 2000, the number of people who have died from air pollution in the PRC tops 30 million, according to New Scientist magazine.
“Too much of the Chinese Communist Party’s economy is built on willful disregard for air, land, and water quality,” Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo said in August. “The Chinese people — and the world — deserve better.”
The PRC has been the world’s largest annual emitter of greenhouse gases since 2006, and its emissions are increasing. Energy-related emissions of carbon dioxide in the PRC have increased more than 80 percent between 2005 and 2019, while U.S. energy-related emissions dropped by more than 15 percent during the same period, according to the International Energy Agency.

China is killing it's citizens and the planet at an alarming rate.....but if you ask a liberal/progressive about this....they don't know what you're talking about. And they are planning on increasing their emissions. They aren't cutting....they've just agreed to cap it at a set level....which, thanks to the wokes in the US and Europe, hasn't been reached yet. China isn't looking seriously for alternatives when they can get away with using a cheap source they're using today (Coal). They also aren't attempting to develop clean coal technology because they know that it would make energy more expensive to produce.

The only way the PRC can clear the smog is by shutting everything down for weeks, other than a few energy plants. They did this in the last Olympics in Beijing. Beijing was like a ghost town during the 2008 Summer Olympics.
A prime example of what happens when China shuts everything down and then restarts it after a military parade they held to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the defeat of Japan during WW II.

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"Beijing CNN —​
Well, that was quick.​
Less than 24 hours after the end of China’s massive military parade, Beijing is back to its usual smoggy self.​
Residents woke up Friday morning to find the crystal blue skies that graced the city nearly two weeks suddenly gone – in their place, the familiar sight and smell of dour gray pollution clouds.​
Starting late August, Beijing enjoyed a rare string of continuously clear days as authorities took drastic action to ensure an azure backdrop for the largest parade it’s ever held – a showcase marking the 70th anniversary of Japan’s defeat in World War II.​
Hundreds of factories were shut during this time, while half of Beijing’s five million registered cars were banned from the streets.​

mckenzie.china.toxic.smog_00010130.jpg

It worked. On the morning of the parade, the air quality index (AQI) – an international standard for measuring the severity of air pollution – dipped to a pristine 17 out of 500, signifying very healthy air.​
Excited Beijingers coined the unusually blue skies “parade blue.”​
But now the cars are back and the city is back to “Beijing gray.”​
Friday’s AQI shot up past 160 in parts of the city, rated “unhealthy”."​


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democrats never say bad things about americas enemies that isnt woke
 
How do you expect to have a conversation with anyone on that pseudo-scientific fairy tale, when they don't even care about the soot and other particulate matter that is clearly detrimental to human life?
Please tell us, but first let us know on which campus did you earn you Ph. D?
 
Took a whole ten posts to get to the inevitable.... :laugh2:

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Considering that the treasonous fat senile old orange clown lied to us concerning the Covid resulting in the US having over 800,000 of it's citizens die, tried to orchestrate a coup to make himself the first American dictator, and reversed already inadequate environmental regulations, it is inevitable that the biggest loser in the American pantheon of Presidents would be mentioned. Not to worry, he will be taken care of, he will finish the year in a jumpsuit that matches his makeup with numbers on the back.
 
carbon dioxide keeps you alive carbon monoxide is dangerous good lord american schools are shitnests


"Respiratory failure is a serious condition that develops when the lungs can’t get enough oxygen into the blood. Buildup of carbon dioxide can also damage the tissues and organs and further impair oxygenation of blood and, as a result, slow oxygen delivery to the tissues."
 
Considering that the treasonous fat senile old orange clown lied to us concerning the Covid resulting in the US having over 800,000 of it's citizens die, tried to orchestrate a coup to make himself the first American dictator, and reversed already inadequate environmental regulations, it is inevitable that the biggest loser in the American pantheon of Presidents would be mentioned. Not to worry, he will be taken care of, he will finish the year in a jumpsuit that matches his makeup with numbers on the back.
GFY, fucking moonbat....Trump isn't the topic here.
 

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