It could be a bad-bad day for the Democrats

[SweetTea]

It makes absolutely no difference what kind of deal Trump reaches with China.

To MAGA, it will be the most amazing thing in the world.

They’re all Trump boot lickers.

And to TDS folks, it will be the worst deal of the century.

Get help.

 

[Marener]

And to TDS folks, it will be the worst deal of the century.

Get help.

When Trump redid NAFTA, my response was that it was a good deal.

 

[SweetTea]

When Trump redid NAFTA, my response was that it was a good deal.

Good for you. So will you say the same if all the dusts settles on this tariff stuff and the markets and the economy flourish?

 

[Marener]

Good for you. So will you say the same if all the dusts settles on this tariff stuff and the markets and the economy flourish?

Renegotiating NAFTA did very little because it kept almost all the previous agreement.

Worldwide, tariffs are already very low. They go a little lower, great. It’s not going to change much.

That’s why you won’t really talk about the economy in concrete terms. You don’t want to say anything that can be disproven.

 

[leftwinger]

So, all this tariff crap was nonsense and Trump will take a victory lap.

SMH. Nice try commeee puke. The rest of us hope things work out. Looking for improvement.

 

[leftwinger]

Trumps legacy will be as a weak leader who didn't have the courage to speak bluntly to Americans about what was at stake. Americans will be the suckers.

You can bet his strongest China Hawk supporters will see yet another lost opportunity. A decade from now all of the West will be grovelling at the feet of the CCP who easily outsmarted the weak Western leaders.

Stop bending the G-damn knee!

I would think there are checks and penalties for non-compliance.

 

[SweetTea]

Renegotiating NAFTA did very little because it kept almost all the previous agreement.

Worldwide, tariffs are already very low. They go a little lower, great. It’s not going to change much.

That’s why you won’t really talk about the economy in concrete terms. You don’t want to say anything that can be disproven.

Well, in concrete terms, why did the Bureau of Labor and Statistics lower their jobs numbers again last quarter? Net 0 gain after the revision. Funny they don't ever revise upwards. It is almost as if these agencies were protecting Biden. Remember Powell lowering rates before the election? The economy was not it nearly as good of shape as you folks were touting. People knew that because their wallets were empty. Many continued to fall for the fake numbers that were being thrown out there.

 

[leftwinger]

We have tariffs on Chinese products too. You didn’t know that?

Makes no difference. We will buy a lot of cheap crap from India and they won’t buy or our expensive premium goods. It’s not about tariffs. It’s about the fact that we don’t produce the stuff they need or can afford.

Thanks for your support for America.

Or

Maybe we should do nothing of value? Like the Obiden 12 yr slog?

 

[Mac-7]

Early reports are saying that China is going to be giving up more than America in the deal.
Which Democrats (Mod Edit: Don't call out other members) going to hate, Trump making a right call - they can't have that.

Other members should be called out

Thats what a debate is supposed to do

 

[hadit]

It makes absolutely no difference what kind of deal Trump reaches with China.

To MAGA, it will be the most amazing thing in the world.

They’re all Trump boot lickers.

And to the haters it will be the worst deal ever, sunspots will erupt, dogs and cats living together, people wearing white after Labor Day, uneven tire wear and poor gas mileage all at the same time.

Again, no matter what deal is struck.

 

[Marener]

Well, in concrete terms, why did the Bureau of Labor and Statistics lower their jobs numbers again last quarter? Net 0 gain after the revision. Funny they don't ever revise upwards. It is almost as if these agencies were protecting Biden. Remember Powell lowering rates before the election? The economy was not it nearly as good of shape as you folks were touting. People knew that because their wallets were empty. Many continued to fall for the fake numbers that were being thrown out there.

But sometimes they do revise the numbers upward. You never bothered to check, you just let yourself be indoctrinated with the right wing rhetoric that they’re falsifying the data.

I remember lowering interest rates because inflation was coming down. You don’t remember that?

 

[leftwinger]

Remember many of thse TDS haters are paid by Deep State (one way or another) to resist & trash these 4yrs. Many are at a GOVT job on top notch PC and network. Doing no real work but pounding message boards anywhere they can find. It’s not real as the Elections were not real (in their favor). They managed to steal enough Congress to cripple Trump, while everyone was busy cheering on the big Win!

 

[SweetTea]

But sometimes they do revise the numbers upward. You never bothered to check, you just let yourself be indoctrinated with the right wing rhetoric that they’re falsifying the data.

I remember lowering interest rates because inflation was coming down. You don’t remember that?

No, they revised in Biden's favor the vast majority of the time. You didn't know that?

What is the inflation rate now as compared to last year? Has it fallen? Why no cuts?

 

[Marener]

No, they revised in Biden's favor the vast majority of the time. You didn't know that?

What is the inflation rate now as compared to last year? Has it fallen? Why no cuts?

Again, you never bothered to look. First it was “never” now it’s “vast majority of the time”. You have no idea how often it happens. It’s just confirmation bias.

Inflation rates this year have been between 2.4 and 3%. It’s a continuation of a slow downward trajectory since inflation steeply dropped in 2022-2023. They achieved the soft landing, bringing inflation down without a recession that people thought was going to be impossible.

Fed has been pretty clear that they’re holding steady because things are too unpredictable right now and there’s serious concern that tariffs are going to cause inflation. You didn’t know that?

 

[SweetTea]

Again, you never bothered to look. First it was “never” now it’s “vast majority of the time”. You have no idea how often it happens. It’s just confirmation bias.

Inflation rates this year have been between 2.4 and 3%. It’s a continuation of a slow downward trajectory since inflation steeply dropped in 2022-2023. They achieved the soft landing, bringing inflation down without a recession that people thought was going to be impossible.

Fed has been pretty clear that they’re holding steady because things are too unpredictable right now and there’s serious concern that tariffs are going to cause inflation. You didn’t know that?

They won't cause serious inflation because settlements will be made. I swear, you people don't have lick of common sense. Just follow the herd, all of you. It's scary.

 

[Marener]

They won't cause serious inflation because settlements will be made. I swear, you people don't have lick of common sense. Just follow the herd, all of you. It's scary.

Smart thing to do is wait and see. Pretending you know what Trump is going to do is foolish.

The Fed is doing the smart thing and waiting. Trump is doing the smart thing and getting rid the massive Chinese tariffs before the US had to face the supply shock that it was going to lead to.

 

[Meister]

You’re in a cult and normal people seem strange to you.

You're a communist and there is nothing normal about that.

It must really piss you off that Trump signed and EO to lower the cost of
pharmaceuticals.

It must piss you off that the US and China are in serious tariff negotiations.

 

[Marener]

You're a communist and there is nothing normal about that.

It must really piss you off that Trump signed and EO to lower the cost of
pharmaceuticals.

It must piss you off that the US and China are in serious tariff negotiations.

Notice how you’re telling me what I believe rather than asking.

That’s the behavior of someone who is psychologically insecure.

 

[Meister]

Notice how you’re telling me what I believe rather than asking.

That’s the behavior of someone who is psychologically insecure.

Everyone knows your track record marener, after all, you have been here for at least 8 years or more.

 

[SweetTea]

Smart thing to do is wait and see. Pretending you know what Trump is going to do is foolish.

So you mean the flock shouldn't have started panic selling because CNN and MSNBC told them scared them to death? Too bad so many lost money when they didn't need to. Silly.

The Fed is doing the smart thing and waiting. Trump is doing the smart thing and getting rid the massive Chinese tariffs before the US had to face the supply shock that it was going to lead to.

Tariffs will hurt China far, far more than us. One caveat is that China is willing to starve their people if they had to to get what they want. They are an evil regime. There is that. Trump is lowering the tariffs to 80%, which is hardly low, to get China to come to the table. He started high because that is the way negotiations work. Again, we will end up on the good side of this. You don't see it, but then again, you didn't see the Tesla stock surge coming.