Israel's War Against Hamas - Updates

[Sixties Fan]

UN laws stipulate that UNRWA employs Palestinian refugees ONLY. In Gaza Strip, UN employs 12,000 out of its total 30,000 work force, a high proportion given that, of the 5.9 million "refugees" registered with UNRWA, less than one third live in the strip (not all Gaza residents are refugees).

If rank and file of Hamas is 10 percent of all Gazans, then 1,200 UNRWA employees must be Hamas. And since until Oct 7 Hamas had been the government in Gaza, then it follows that Hamas had the final say on UNRWA's work in the strip, including UNRWA Human Resources.

 

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[Sayaras]

Statistically Impossible: A Critical Analysis of Hamas’s Women and Children Casualty Figures.
by Tom Simpson, Lewi Stone and Gregory Rose.
Mar 3, 2024.
Rate of death in Gaza halved in 2024 as compared to 2023.
Even by the MoH’s own dubious figures, the rate of death in Gaza appears to have slowed markedly in recent months. This correlates with a decline in the reported ratio of women and children killed. The
aforementioned 21,978 total dead figure for 2023 implies that, on average, 259 Gazans died every day between 7 October and 31 December. As of 3 March, the comparable 2024 figure declined to 136. So even by Hamas’s own statistics, there has been a decline of almost 50 per cent in the rate of death.

The proportion of women and children casualties recorded in hospitals has also declined by about a third, from 60 per cent in 2023 down to 42 per cent of the deaths recorded in 2024 – a far cry from the BBC’s proclaimed 70 per cent. As mentioned, when considering this 42 per cent figure one should bear in mind that women and children make up 75 per cent of Gaza’s population. And while the hospital registered deaths figures still ultimately come from Hamas, they are at least less obviously absurd than the ‘media sources’ and total death counts.

It is likely that reductions in casualty counts reflect the IDF’s increasing reliance on ground force attacks, rather than airstrikes, as well as reticence on the part of its forces to engage Hamas terrorists that have fled into hospitals and other areas of concentrated civilian populations. These Hamas tactics – embedding among the civilian population to achieve a ‘human shield’ strategy – have resulted in the very real and very tragic deaths of an unknown number of women and children. The same Hamas war criminals who have engineered these tragic deaths are also behind the absurd and fabricated propaganda statistics so widely cited by the western media.
Statistically Impossible: A Critical Analysis of Hamas’s Women and Children Casualty Figures FathomJournal:


Gaza Fatality Data Has Become Completely Unreliable.
by Gabriel Epstein.
Mar 26, 2024
Also available in العربية.
...Caveats and Recommendations.
This analysis is solely intended to compare various Hamas fatality claims against each other and raise questions about the resultant discrepancies. It makes no claims about the true death toll in Gaza or the civilian-combatant ratio, nor is it meant to distract from the very real and widespread loss of life in Gaza and the severe humanitarian crisis that its population continues to suffer.

Regarding the overrepresentation of men in the fatality statistics, this point is not intended to imply that all Gazan men are militants. Rather, adult men are the most likely to be militants across any group (though Hamas is known to use children in combat and support roles). Their overrepresentation has also been used to help estimate militant deaths in the past.

Caveats aside, the above findings should prompt analysts, media outlets, and government officials to bear the following points in mind when assessing Gaza fatality statistics:

• The discrepancies between the methodologies for counting fatalities warrant much more intense scrutiny and should be paired with appropriate caveats if cited. Whether through passive omission, active manipulation, or both, the Gaza Health Ministry’s media reports methodology significantly understates the number of men killed and may overstate the number of children killed.
• The repeated claim that 72% of the dead are women and children is very likely incorrect. Data from the central collection system indicates that 58% of those killed since the start of the war are women and children; this figure drops to 48% for those killed since November 3. For the 72% claim to be accurate, women and children would have to make up about 90% of deaths recorded from media reports. This proportion is implausible—men comprise a quarter of the population, and these fatalities have largely occurred in areas with fewer civilians and more combatants, most of whom are adult men.
• Data from both methodologies suggests that the war has decreased in intensity. Fatalities have declined from an average of 348 per day in the first weeks of the war to around 85 per day in March.
• The existing data is too limited to allow for definitive conclusions about the true death toll or the civilian-combatant ratio. A high proportion of reported deaths come from an unknown methodology that may be misrepresenting the data, while enormous uncertainty persists regarding how many combatant fatalities go uncounted in tunnels and other battlespaces. The exact proportions of men, women, and children killed are even more unclear. The available data does not allow for reliable estimates about the ratio of civilians to combatants killed either, whether independently or by comparison with Israeli estimates...

Gaza Fatality Data Has Become Completely Unreliable

Given the discrepancies in official Palestinian counts and their growing reliance on questionable data from media reports, the credibility gaps revealed by a previous Washington Institute study have become yawning chasms.

www.washingtoninstitute.org

 

[Sayaras]

Of course UN won't admit its fault in preventing more trucks to enter. As COGAT reported

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ This photo should have won it]

 

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This is a quote and map from the Jäger Report, a tally sheet of actions by a German killing squad during the Holocaust.

The report keeps an almost daily record of the murders of 137,346 people, the vast majority Jews, from July 1941 to November 1941.

It is one of many such documents firmly establishing the genocidal intent of the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people.

Seems like the UN special rapporteur on the rights of Palestinians needs a history lesson.

 

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[FDR_Reagan]

Comment. "Devil took over me" is an excuse for a routine of rape jihad since 1929 by Arab Islamists in the Holy Land
Since the 1960s they are called exclusively "p(B)alestinians." But most are grandchildren of Arab immigrants.

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Manar Mahmoud Muhammed Qassem.
منار محمود محمد قاسم

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Terrorists tells interrogators he raped woman on October 7.
Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorists apprehended by IDF forces in Khan Younis recounts how he entered an Israeli kibbutz where he raped and murdered Israelis; Warning: viewer discretion advised.
Yoav Zitun | published: 03.28.24 |12:00

Terrorists tells interrogators he raped woman on October 7

Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorists apprehended by IDF forces in Khan Younis recounts how he entered an Israeli kibbutz where he raped and murdered Israelis; Warning: viewer discretion advised

www.ynetnews.com

'Devil took over me': IDF reveals Islamic Jihad terrorist's October 7 rape confession
By Yonah Jeremy Bob. Published: March 28, 2024 17:00
Updated: March 28, 2024 18:27

The interrogation of Islamic Jihad terrorist Manar Mahmoud Muhammad Qasem. photo credit: IDF SPOKESPERSON'S UNIT)

Pressed how long the rape lasted, Islamic Jihad terrorist Manar Mahmoud Muhammad Qasem said around 60-90 seconds.
The IDF on Thursday put out a video of a Unit 504 interrogation of an Islamic Jihad terrorist named Manar Mahmoud Muhammad Qasem in which he explicitly confesses to and describes his rape of an Israeli woman on October 7.

From the interrogation video, Qasem did not seem to know much about the invasion of Israel in advance, but he was told by one of his fellow Islamic Jihad counterparts that they were going to attack Israel when he arrived at their regular base.

Despite being trained for naval combat, he and his counterpart joined in the invasion on land. Qasem noted to the interrogator that his counterpart was wounded in the head after they crossed into Israel, but that he proceeded into a Kibbutz with a handgun and two grenades.

Next, he said, he entered a house alone; it initially appeared empty, but he then found a woman in one of the side rooms.

"I started to strip her clothes off, and I did what I did"
He said she was terrified of him and that he threw her on the couch when she asked for help.

Qasem described her as wearing a blue miniskirt, a white shirt, and sandals.[/B]


After he threw her on the couch, he told the interrogator, "Satan took over me, I lay on top of her on the bed, I started to strip her clothes off, and I did what I did."

He said that he had also removed her pink bra and pink underwear.

When the interrogator asked him to specify what exactly "he did," Qasem said, "I went to sleep with her."

The interrogator then asks him if all they did was go to sleep.

At this point, in the initial recording, it seemed that the interrogator and the terrorist were speaking at the same time, and one cannot hear the terrorists's voice, but the subtitles say that he said, "I raped her."

When the Jerusalem Post noted the anomaly to the IDF, the military said it worked on improving the sound and sent out a revised video in which the terrorist's voice could be heard when the subtitles say, "I raped her."

Next, Qasem said, "She pushed me, and it didn't last very long, and then I heard yelling outside."
Pressed on how long the rape lasted, Qasem said around 60-90 seconds.

Next, he said that the two put their clothes back on and that two other terrorists entered and took the woman and her mother (who had also appeared) away.

After this, Qasem said he heard gunfire nearby and opened fire on an Israeli male civilian.

He said he hit the man in the lower part of his body, but did not know whether the man survived or not.

He also said he threw one of his grenades at two other Israelis, and then fled.

'Devil took over me': IDF reveals Islamic Jihad terrorist's October 7 rape confession

Pressed how long the rape lasted, Islamic Jihad terrorist Manar Mahmoud Muhammad Qasem said around 60-90 seconds.

www.jpost.com

رهابي شارك بمجزرة الـ 7 من أكتوبر يعترف باغتصابه امرأة
شعبة الاستخبارات تنشر شهادة قاسية من التحقيق مع إرهابي شارك في مجزرة السابع من أكتوبر، واعترافه باغتصاب امرأة وقتل مدنيين

https://www.makan.org.il/content/news/makan-news/p-11693/730409/

 

[Grau]

I wonder why the mods allow a Mossad agent to spew his lies and propaganda every day in this thread.

I would not like to restrict anyone's right to free speech as long as it is the work of the Poster, himself or herself.

Relentlessly spamming the board with the writings, "Tweets" and opinions of other people is at least lazy and is borderline plagiarism.

Relying on the words of others to try to justify Zionist genocide is the same as admitting that Netanyahu's genocidal agenda is inexcusable.

I thought that you would be interested in knowing that the Israeli government is paying its full time Hasbara Spammers well.

"Propaganda War: Pro-Israel Trolls are Mobbing Twitter’s Community Notes"​

Propaganda War: Pro-Israel Trolls are Mobbing Twitter’s Community Notes

An army of pro-Israel trolls has invaded the Community Notes function on X/Twitter, attempting to influence the online debate around the ongoing crisis.

scheerpost.com

EXCERPT "An army of pro-Israel trolls has invaded the Community Notes function on X/Twitter, attempting to influence the online debate around the ongoing crisis.

"Spending Millions to Whitewash Massacres"​

"Since October 7, Israel has inundated YouTube with advertisements, with its Ministry of Foreign Affairs spending nearly $7.1 million on ads in the two weeks following Hamas’ incursion. According to journalist Sophia Smith Galer, this equates to almost one billion impressions.

With its campaign, the Israeli government overwhelmingly focused on rich Western nations, its top targets being France, Germany, the United Kingdom, Belgium and the United States.

In France alone, the ministry spent $3.8 million. Other branches of the Israeli government undoubtedly also spent money on ads.

The overwhelming message of the campaign was that Hamas are terrorists linked with ISIS and that Israel – a modern, secular democracy – is defending itself from foreign aggression." CONTINUED

Once again, I fully support the right of people to express their views even if they are known lies because the truth can't be repressed forever.

Thanks and keep telling it like it is, brother.

 

[gipper]

I would not like to restrict anyone's right to free speech as long as it is the work of the Poster, himself or herself.

Relentlessly spamming the board with the writings, "Tweets" and opinions of other people is at least lazy and is borderline plagiarism.

Relying on the words of others to try to justify Zionist genocide is the same as admitting that Netanyahu's genocidal agenda is inexcusable.

I thought that you would be interested in knowing that the Israeli government is paying its full time Hasbara Spammers well.

"Propaganda War: Pro-Israel Trolls are Mobbing Twitter’s Community Notes"​

Propaganda War: Pro-Israel Trolls are Mobbing Twitter’s Community Notes

An army of pro-Israel trolls has invaded the Community Notes function on X/Twitter, attempting to influence the online debate around the ongoing crisis.

scheerpost.com

EXCERPT "An army of pro-Israel trolls has invaded the Community Notes function on X/Twitter, attempting to influence the online debate around the ongoing crisis.

"Spending Millions to Whitewash Massacres"​

"Since October 7, Israel has inundated YouTube with advertisements, with its Ministry of Foreign Affairs spending nearly $7.1 million on ads in the two weeks following Hamas’ incursion. According to journalist Sophia Smith Galer, this equates to almost one billion impressions.

With its campaign, the Israeli government overwhelmingly focused on rich Western nations, its top targets being France, Germany, the United Kingdom, Belgium and the United States.

In France alone, the ministry spent $3.8 million. Other branches of the Israeli government undoubtedly also spent money on ads.

The overwhelming message of the campaign was that Hamas are terrorists linked with ISIS and that Israel – a modern, secular democracy – is defending itself from foreign aggression." CONTINUED

Once again, I fully support the right of people to express their views even if they are known lies because the truth can't be repressed forever.

Thanks and keep telling it like it is, brother.

Agreed. I too am entirely against censorship of any kind. However, what we see today is censorship of those who oppose Israel’s genocide. Censorship of supporters of the Israel’s genocide doesn’t occur. I suspect if someone were to post a thread like this one with hundreds of posts opposing Israel, they’d likely be censored.

 

[Grau]

and I enjoyed how your claim that you won't use it was then followed by your using it.

See, you are doing it again. Sad you can't understand this. By admitting that you can articulate reasons that you think the quote is valid but not giving any substantiation for the origin you are underscoring how it is only your preference that leads to your use. I don't need to show anything to prove something is invalid. All I can do is ask why you use something that has no confirmed source and all you have answered, repeatedly, is that you use it because it seems valid to you since it is in line with other quotes.

How can I possibly discuss something without naming it?

I have explained why I found one quote credible and another one not credible as clearly and as simply as I possibly can.

That you are unable to respond with a rational and coherent comment that addresses what I have written is beyond my control.

 

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How can I possibly discuss something without naming it?

I have explained why I found one quote credible and another one not credible as clearly and as simply as I possibly can.

That you are unable to respond with a rational and coherent comment that addresses what I have written is beyond my control.

the fact that you can't see the mistake you keep making shows a wilfull blindness. Such is life.

 

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[gipper]

the fact that you can't see the mistake you keep making shows a wilfull blindness. Such is life.

A far bigger mistake is supporting genocide.

 

[rosends]

A far bigger mistake is supporting genocide.

tell that to Hamas